Musk’s Pledge To Bring Starlink To Iran Didn’t Actually Do Anything. That Didn’t Stop The Hype Machine.

from the sound-and-fury,-signifying-nothing dept

Despite Elon Musk’s disdain for the press, his legend wouldn’t exist without the media’s need to hyperventilate over every last thing that comes out of the billionaire’s mouth. We’re at the point where the dumbest offhand comment by Musk becomes its own three week news cycle (see the entire news cycle based on Musk’s comments on a baseless story about somebody cheating at chess with anal beads).

Of course it’s even worse if Musk says something that actually sounds important. Like when Musk recently proclaimed he’d be offering Starlink satellite broadband service in Iran in a heroic bid to help protesting Iranians avoid government surveillance and censorship. It was literally a two word tweet, but the claim, as usual, resulted in lots of ass kissing and a week long news cycle about how Musk was heroically helping Iranians.

But the announcement was hollow. Not that you’d know this by perusing press stories. Only a few outlets, like Al Jazeera and The Intercept, could be bothered to dig behind the claims to discover the announcement didn’t actually accomplish much of anything real.

Iran quickly banned the Starlink website, and the only way actual Iranians would be able to use the service is if somebody smuggled Starlink dishes (aka “terminals”) into the country in the middle of a massive wave of violent unrest, something that’s likely impossible at any real scale. There’s also the issue of no ground stations tying connectivity together in Iran:

Musk’s plan is further complicated by Starlink’s reliance on ground stations: communications facilities that allow the SpaceX satellites to plug into earthbound internet infrastructure from orbit. While upgraded Starlink satellites may no longer need these ground stations in the near future, the network of today still largely requires them to service a country as vast as Iran, said Humphreys, the University of Texas professor. Again, Iran is unlikely to approve the construction within its borders of satellite installations owned by an American defense contractor.

So even if Musk wanted to offer struggling Iranians broadband access they’re extremely unlikely to be able to get dishes. And even if they could get dishes, they probably couldn’t use them because the necessary infrastructure wasn’t in place. Of course Musk knew this. But Musk also knows that any random bullshit that comes out of his mouth creates several weeks of free press because the ad-based U.S. press has steadily devolved into a billionaire-coddling bullshit clickbait and controversy machine.

The Intercept found it didn’t take much for large swaths of the Internet to believe that the billionaire had dramatically changed things in Iran with a tweet. Musk fandom is often a fan fiction based community, where truth is fairly negotiable:

Implausibility hasn’t stopped Musk’s fans, either. One tweet from a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council purporting to document a Starlink dish already successfully secreted into Iran turned out to be a photo from 2020, belonging to an Idaho man who happened to have a Persian rug.

That’s not to say that Starlink can’t help people in countries where emergency connectivity is needed, such as in Ukraine. Or rural Kentucky (assuming they can afford the $710 first month bill). But it is to say that turning your brain off every single time Elon Musk opens his mouth because you’ve convinced yourself he’s some kind of deity is violently annoying to people still living in reality.

And while Musk loves to whine and cry about the unfairness of the press, his legend literally wouldn’t exist without the endless supply of clickbait-seeking editors who are completely uninterested in the actual truth behind any and every claim the man makes, whether it’s the capabilities of “full self driving” or Starlink’s potential.

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That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

And because he’s cultivated his followers to defend him no matter what, anyone trying to inject reality into the situations ends up having to deal with people convinced beyond any doubt that they are only talking shit because of their hatred of Elon.

I mean how many comments show up on every story about Musk we run where they are saying stuff about how Karl is out to get him or doesn’t know what he is talking about?

Everyone promotes his latest thing, but rarely do they mention that ‘The Great Egress’ is merely an exit after you’ve ponied up the entry fee.

That One Guy (profile) says:

An entire industry of useful idiots

On the one hand it would seem the press is tripping over itself to fawn at his feet and praise him at a moment’s notice, which is pretty useful to him so it’s a little odd that he’d hold them in low regard.

On the other hand that is some really pathetic behavior on their part so maybe that’s why he doesn’t care for them.

Panda (profile) says:

There are ground stations in Oman and Turkey, which cover Iran. It’s confirmed to be activated. Iranians smuggle in millions of satellite TV dishes and operate them illegally. An organization offered to buy 1,000 terminals for Iranians. This post is directed more at the bad articles claiming it is a country wide solution than any statement Musk made on the matter. He was interviewed by Karim Sadjadpour and candidly said: “Starlink is now activated in Iran. It requires the use of terminals in-country, which I suspect the [Iranian] government will not support, but if anyone can get terminals into Iran, they will work”.

Also: Biden administration officials are open to helping get Starlink terminals to Iran but there are two main challenges, financial and logistical. It will cost many millions of dollars to setup and sustain thousands of Starlink terminals to Iran. This challenge is surmountable.

https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/1573163799368323073

Anonymous Coward says:

But it is to say that turning your brain off every single time Elon Musk opens his mouth because you’ve convinced yourself he’s some kind of deity is violently annoying to people still living in reality.

Some religions believe in evil “gods”. It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to “turn their” brain off[1] when Musk says something, because they believe he’s a deity of deception.

[1] In this case I mean “stop listening”.

Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Ground stations in IR

Yeah, there aren’t going to be Starlink ground stations in IR anytime soon. However, the question of whether that makes some substantive material difference relies on the answer to the question:

“Once your date are uploaded to the satellite your ground terminal is communicating with, can it then be sent (lasers?) to another satellite and perhaps more until it can be sent to a ground station and vice versa?”

If the network, as designed, makes it a “Yes” then ground stations aren’t necessary anywhere except where you want your Starlink “connections” to originate/terminate.

There’s a guy out there in FLA who convinced SpaceX to “move his dish” from being connected to a bird with a faraway ground station to one much closer. Good news – he could ping the ground station with lower latency. Bad news – that’s entirely irrelevant. You want low latency to where you need to access, not your own home.

Secondly, people seem obsessed with latency, as if someone miraculously in 2021 “latency” is the most important thing ever. It’s good to minimize, but if you’re VOiPing or GAMING what you care about is jitter – change in round trip time (RTT) latency packet to packet.

At the end of the day, the speed of light through the vacuum of space and 60Kft of atmosphere is not much different than the speed of light through a single-mode glass fiber.

nasch (profile) says:

Re:

Secondly, people seem obsessed with latency, as if someone miraculously in 2021 “latency” is the most important thing ever. It’s good to minimize, but if you’re VOiPing or GAMING what you care about is jitter – change in round trip time (RTT) latency packet to packet.

They’re both important. Consistent triple digit latency with no jitter will also make a game nearly unplayable.

Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Re: Turkey and Oman

Turkey used to be an easy one. Give them a discount on F-35s and any deal can be done. Then the got into Russian S-400 and it got ugly. Before that the Mavi Marmara and I’m not touching that one with a ten foot pole.

Oman — right now — is easier. We give them money and military assistance. Please note that when you read “piracy” on a US government web site it usually means “upsetting big content” not “those guys on small boats harassing shipping lanes.” See e.g https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-oman/

However, and again, ground station location is not that critical to be geophysically close. Nasch says triple-digit latency is bad and he’s right. VoIP need less than 130ms to be usable, and gaming depends on the game but I would agree for FPS and racing you need sub 125ms. (Normal human reaction time… slower than gamer time but I don’t have data.)

Light is 2/3C in plastic fiber. So RTT is usually expressed as an estimated 1ms per 100Km (~60Miles). If we accept Nasch’s comment as fact (and it’s close enough to what I know works, so I’m going with it) that means if you get a ground station within 10,000Km or 6,000Miles of [what?] then you get it all… VoIP, gaming, etc.

If you’re in a country under siege and what you want is VPNs (hide source IP) and browsing (HTTP/s) and email (IMAP/s, SMTP/s) you could double that.

Sat Sat is just about near C, so 50% greater than the above.

I know SpaceX has been working on UserTerminal Sat1 Sat2 GroundStation Local Internet Uplink, but I’m unaware if they can do Sat1 Sat2 Sat3 … SatN.

Doable: yes
Actionable: while avoiding governmental regulations risking prison or death
Cost: N x (EndUserTerminal+ ExpensiveSmugglingTransport + Camouflage for dish)

Yup. I’d sign onto such a project, just not the dying and the smuggling and the prison part.

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