Victims’ Rights Laws Abused Again To Hide Identities Of Officers Who Killed Someone
from the one-of-the-few-laws-cops-actually-know-back-to-front dept
Ten states are currently home to a version of California’s “Marsy’s Law.” This law is a “victim’s rights” law, named after a California murder victim. It was written with the intent of involving crime victims in the criminal justice process, giving them a “right” to be heard during court proceedings, choose their own representation (rather than be solely represented by the prosecution), and — as is most relevant here — prevent crime victims’ names from being released publicly.
That’s where these laws have become convenient for cops. When cops deploy excessive force (including killing people), the person subjected to police violence is often hit with criminal charges. Resisting arrest is a popular one. So is “assaulting an officer,” which may mean nothing more than a person bumped into an officer while being detained. Since those are criminal charges, the cops turn themselves into victims, despite having performed far more violence than the person they restrained (to death, in some cases).
States where victim rights laws are in force allow officers to prevent their names from being published by media covering deadly force incidents. Since the cops are nominal “victims,” the law applies to them. A law enforcement officer in South Dakota used the state’s law to keep their name out of the papers following their shooting of driver during a traffic stop.
The same thing happened in Florida a few years later. Two cops who deployed deadly force were able to convince a judge the state’s Marsy’s Law applied to them — even superseding the public’s right to this information through the state’s public records laws.
It has happened again. Same state, same law, same outcome. Here’s Scott Shackford for Reason:
In Sarasota County, three deputies were sent to a condo in April to help evict 52-year-old Jeremiah Evans. According to Sarasota County Sheriff Department’s report, Evans pulled out a knife and threatened the deputies. One of the deputies shot and killed Evans.
Prosecutors determined that the shooting was justified. The Sarasota Herald-Tribune submitted a public records request to the State Attorney’s Office, and among the information they received were the unredacted last names of the deputies involved.
Then the Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office swung into action, going to a judge to invoke Marsy’s Law to try to prohibit the newspaper from publishing the names of the officers involved. On Friday evening a judge granted a temporary injunction preemptively prohibiting the newspaper from publishing the officers’ names. Despite failing to redact the names by accident, the State Attorney’s Office also supported the sheriff’s department and joined the action against the newspaper, essentially attempting to shift responsibility onto the newspaper for the office’s own supposed breach of the law.
The Herald-Tribune, which had already obtained some of this information (last names only) from the state attorney’s office, is rightfully upset at this turn of events. It has filed a motion in opposition to this injunction — one secured by both the Sheriff’s Office and the state attorney — pointing out that this is an unjustified abuse of the victim’s rights law in hopes of memory-holing information already provided to the paper.
In the newspaper’s motion, attorneys said nothing in Marsy’s law creates a private right of action against third parties or empowers courts to “censor private persons, such as respondents.” If disclosure of the deputies’ names violated Marsy’s Law, the motion argues, the violator was the State Attorney’s Office, not the newspaper.
“Petitioners cite no case law that places Marsy’s Law above the free-speech guarantee in Article I, Section 4 of the Florida Constitution. And any reading of Marsy’s Law that prohibits the news media from publishing publicly disclosed information also would bring Marsy’s Law into conflict with the United States Constitution,” the motion states.
First and foremost, the law cannot be used to stuff the genie back into the bottle. The newspaper already has access to the involved officers’ last names, thanks to a public records response by the state attorney’s office. The emergency injunction does not prevent the paper from publishing information it already has because the public release, as the paper points out, was performed by the state attorney.
Second, the injunction process appears to have abandoned the concept of due process entirely. It was obtained by the sheriff and state attorney with zero opportunity for input from the party directly affected by the injunction. The paper was not notified the injunction was being sought and was not informed of law enforcement’s efforts until after the order was secured. And it was obtained on Friday evening at 6:30 pm, presumably to maximize the length of the questionably obtained opacity, preventing the paper from engaging in any challenge of the order until the following Monday.
This certainly isn’t the way those writing these laws expected them to be used. But that’s what these laws enable when they’re abused by public employees who deploy deadly force: a larger gap between state law enforcement officers and the already distant accountability that rarely serves to deter future misconduct.
Filed Under: cops, florida, marsy's law, sarasota, victim's rights
Comments on “Victims’ Rights Laws Abused Again To Hide Identities Of Officers Who Killed Someone”
'Won't someone think of the poor killers with badges?'
‘Look people are really mean when we murder someone because the looked at us funny/had something in their hand/might have had something in their hand/didn’t grovel sufficiently/we felt like it so clearly we’re the victims here and the law is rightly being used to keep people from knowing exactly who pulled the trigger.
On an unrelated subject it is also really unfair when people blame entire departments for the theoretical actions of only one or two officers, if they want to assign blame it should only be for those engaging in behavior they wrongly object to, not the police as a whole.’
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“On an unrelated subject it is also really unfair when people blame entire departments for the theoretical actions of only one or two officers”
Usually followed up with “I saw someone claim that someone related to BLM/antifa/LGBTQ/whatever did something bad, so everyone associated with them only has themselves to blame when cops abuse or slaughter them”, without a hint of self-awareness or irony.
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À la davec. Just sayin’. 😉
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Only Q idiots say that. And Progressives.
Rational people blame people for they actions they commit. Not groups of others.
People are responsible for their own actions. Unless physically forced, there’s no excuse.
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People are responsible for their own actions. Unless physically forced, there’s no excuse.
Said the court who acquitted a bank manager of robbery because the robbers had guns to his wife and kids’ heads to no one ever. (-_Q)
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Clearly,
and
So, because they weren’t being pistol whipped, simply pointing the gun doesn’t constitute ‘physical force’?
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The robbers didn’t have the guy’s arm up his back. You do know the legal definition of physical force, right? Or are you simply pretending to be that dumb as part of your trolling?
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I am well aware of the definition of physical force for reasons beyond your comprehension level.
And, posting as AC is what trolling is by definition. You have a personality disorder, path-narc spectrum, side order of sadist and potentially violent. Can’t admit you are wrong.
Force is force, and any good lawyer would make that argument—the argument you f41l3d to make. And, in such cases as you mentioned, they do exist—here is a bank teller with a bomb strapped to her–any and every judge and jury anywhere would define this as “forced.”
I am a contributor–you are a troll. You bring nothing but harassment and bullying to the table. Anyone can see it.
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You have a personality disorder, path-narc spectrum, side order of sadist and potentially violent. Can’t admit you are wrong.
Said the troll, projecting his pathology onto others due to his discomfort with how he views them.
Force is force, and any good lawyer would make that argument—the argument you f41l3d to make. And, in such cases as you mentioned, they do exist—here is a bank teller with a bomb strapped to her–any and every judge and jury anywhere would define this as “forced.”
Not saying otherwise, Mr. Obtuse. You’re the one trying to redefine threatening others as physical force of the individual.
I am a contributor–you are a troll. You bring nothing but harassment and bullying to the table. Anyone can see it.
Why does everything you say about yourself involve projection?
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Thanks, Amber!
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You are kind of cute for a rock, covered in dying moss. Maybe look into that.
Meanwhile, back in BiZzARrO LAND, we encounter sour mayonnaise infused word salad, served by you:
I mean, WTF is that exactly? Look upstream–the salmon were all dying as soon as AC #1 dipped its incredibly short pole into the stream, slinging “hate”! The rest was chaos, by design!
Myself, I prefer deli, no mayo. But you greasy spooners are “all mayo, up my ass, at all times–shit slides easier!”
I never understood felchers. You are all felchers.
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You are kind of cute for a rock, covered in dying moss. Maybe look into that.
Meanwhile, back in BiZzARrO LAND, we encounter sour mayonnaise infused word salad, served by you:
I mean, WTF is that exactly? Look upstream–the salmon were all dying as soon as AC #1 dipped its incredibly short pole into the stream, slinging “hate”! The rest was chaos, by design!
As for felchers, I have no idea what they are, but I’m guessing you do or you wouldn’t have invoked them.
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Thanks, Amber!
1.Citation
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Is that yet another satirical publication you linked to as a “source”? I’m so done wasting bandwidth following the links you provide to “back” your bullshit.
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Well, satire or not, it’s about ten fold more than anything you do here, as a non-contributor and troll.
Do you have Paypal? I will send you a few shekels or some Monero to help pay for that elusive bandwidth there in bandwidth starved upper Siberia, the Serengeti, or wherever it is that bandwidth is so throttled that one link to satire sends your machine into blue-screen errors or whatever.
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Well, satire or not, it’s about ten fold more than anything you do here, as a non-contributor and troll.
Said the projector.
Do you have Paypal? I will send you a few shekels or some Monero to help pay for that elusive bandwidth there in bandwidth starved upper Siberia, the Serengeti, or wherever it is that bandwidth is so throttled that one link to satire sends your machine into blue-screen errors or whatever.
My preference to stream actually useful things from YouTube and SoundCloud equates to bandwidth so throttled that just loading a page is problematic? Only in your impoverished imagination, troll.
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Um, my links are to content light sites not “from YouTube and SoundCloud” so quit your lying, scurrilous AC.
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Projectedthe troll.
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How are progressives irrational? Strong in this one the projection is.
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I think you are on the edge of perpetuating the “one rogue cop” mythology. Police departments can be and are institutions that adopt bad policies, and hire officers who fit profiles of persons who will enforce bad policies.
Israelification, and teaching cops that it’s ok to shoot people in the back is one of those polices, but there are thousands more.
These programs are incentivizing police criminality, and are taught department-wide anywhere these toxic programs exist.
There are no “rogue cops,” just bad cops who get caught, and hung out to dry by their peers.
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Poe’s law strikes again. Look closely at his post, it’s enclosed in single quotes so this is just TOG paraphrasing the absurdity of what some people actually say to defend the police bad behavior.
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Maybe. It does appear it can be interpreted that way. But is there ever a bad time to insert more facts about Israelification, so the new kids have the proper name for the horrific policing policies that we see discussed above?
In other news–Poe’s Law appears to have interesting origins, beyond internet.
Or, is it a case of co-option of the law, just like Israelification?
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But is there ever a bad time to insert more facts [sic] about Israelification, so the new kids have the proper name for the horrific policing policies that we see discussed above?
When it’s a creation of QAnon, so every time is a bad time to bring up that rubbish.
In other news–Poe’s Law appears to have interesting origins beyond internet.
Those are two completely different Poe’s Laws, as you would know if you’d bothered reading the webpage you linked to.
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Of course I knew that–why do you restate the obvious? But in re: Q-anon? What type of argument are you making here? Police brutality in the US is directly tied to Israelification.
It’s directly tied to the British National Intelligence model, “high policing,” intelligence led predictive policing, or whatever other of the many names that these devils hide it behind. It is political policing, combined with heinous pre-emptive brutality, assisted by othering.
Sure, you can say that it’s just more of what the heathens have had heaped on them since before Roman Times, but it’s still fundamentally extremist led policing. And, Islamists are integral in this new wave of terror, right alongside these zealots–and have been complicit since Roman times too–its the Abrahamic Trifecta of toxic Freemasonry that Richard Stanley discusses so accurately.
The British-Israel model allows radical Zionists of all stripes to commit atrocities and crimes–the Protestant right alongside the Baptist, alongside the settlers–the same model used to destroy Native American’s, now exported back east, and everywhere else real estate is the prize.
Every dialectic space is toxified by it– as we see at the Supreme Court, colonized by radical Catholic sociopaths. There work over the centuries is also well known. How could that be a bad thing to discuss openly? Unless….
Many don’t know this but the origin of “never discuss religion or politics in polite company” is Masonic. Su, let’s upend that, shall we? Or…
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Police brutality in the US is directly tied to Israelification.
You’ve used that same link to back your anti-Semitic bullshit three times now, so we want three independent links saying the same thing before we believe you. You got away with trolling on Wikipedia for five years, but we won’t let you get away with it anywhere near that long here.
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“We want” is indicative of your service in an Israeli hasbara unit. Maybe Squad 8200, or one of the many Silicon Valley-Mossad front companies.
Sorry–I am not on that payroll, find the links yourself, you hateful, racist,dog-whistling piece of shit.
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“We want” is indicative of your service in an Israeli hasbara unit. Maybe Squad 8200, or one of the many Silicon Valley-Mossad front companies.
Nice assumption. Another classic from Trolling 101 as well.
Sorry–I am not on that payroll, find the links yourself, you hateful, racist,dog-whistling piece of shit.
So you admit to having no evidence for your bullshit anti-Semitic claims, and then have the cheek to accuse me of racism and dog-whistling? Like your psychopathy, your projection is obvious.
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Thatone, weird, awful day, when desising gangsterism, the ADL, and Big Pharma wars on the poor is called “antisemitic,” ws truly ONE WEIRD DAY.
You were there, as I recall. On the phone with NYPD, using some “people tracking APP” something something, and “BLACK PEOPLE THIS AND THAT,” AND ESPECIALLY “”POOR WHITE PEOPLE” something or other, and making “lists.”
How do people/bots/AI like you live with yourselves?
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Again, more trollish assumptions. I don’t even live in New York, city or state, nor have I ever been there, so you couldn’t have seen me on the phone to anyone. Thanks for providing evidence of just how much of a liar you are, though. It helps puts the lie to your assertions that you aren’t anti-Semitic.
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AND YOU ARE STILL A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE WITH A NAZI TATTOO ON YOUR FOREHEAD!!!!
Meanwhile, back in Antisemiticland, I heard a story about Ham and Sham, where the [Ukrainian Nazi’s](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-09/ty-article/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine/0000017f-e080-d7b2-a77f-e3870e1c0000 were bombing, genociding, and apartheiding Gaza or somethng.
Tell us more about your vacation there? Free vacation so cool, right?!
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AND YOU ARE STILL A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE WITH A NAZI TATTOO ON YOUR FOREHEAD!!!!
I seriously hope someone here believes that so I can sue you for libel and we can all find out exactly who the coward is.
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The belief is strong, my Anonymous Coward friend, that your lawsuit would live forever in infamy, amongst Techdirt’s most lauded posts, on the internet.
And then, I would finally get into the coveted “most insightful” or “funniest post ever” slot, alongside other people with Aspergers Syndrome, passive aggressive disorders, and autism (or who are just shitbags, bullies and trolls here at TD who hide their bad behavior behind such claims of diagnoses.)
I would be very proud to finally WIN such an honor.
Meanwhile, why don’t you inject some ANTISEMITISM into the discussion at this point,
so the readers of the future can see who you are? Waaagh! Im-a-gonna-sue-you!
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And then, I would finally get into the coveted “most insightful” or “funniest post ever” slot…
Unlikely.
alongside other [sic] people with Aspergers Syndrome, passive aggressive disorders, and autism (or who are just shitbags, bullies and trolls here at TD who hide their bad behavior behind such claims of diagnoses.)
Like you’ve just done? Free clue: your behavior indicates you’re on the personality disorder spectrum, not the autistic spectrum. I should know, I’ve spent literally decades of my life working with individuals just like you.
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Likewise, I have spent years dissembling the junk science of psychology–held up as evidence by people just like you.
Imagine that, yet ANOTHER pro-censorship-by-proxy psychologist who bullies and harasses people online from the AC default–and applied labeling theory ala psychology!
Which might also explain why you hate my frequent references to Nurse Ratched and One Flew Over the Cucko’s Nest as prediction, not as fiction then?
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I don’t care whatyou predictabout yourself just as long as you’re locked up for your illegal actions.
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re “You’ve used that same link to back your anti-Semitic bullshit”
No, no, no! The ANTISEMITISM CONVERSATION KILLER INJECTION POINT is here.
See the footnotes about circumcision, aka male genital mutilation.
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Different Poe’s Law, dealing with different topics. Unless how to sell the ludicrousness of religion…
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Right. Religion is more toxic than the virus–all those magicians and mysteries….
And an argument could be made that the two versions of said law could merely be restatements of each other too.
Poe’s Law:
And:
Both state something about extremism–i.e. “religion,” and both are methods of approaching a dialectic space to make a point, gain followers, and win arguments.
Then, when you do that, the actual extremists all try to censor you off the internet as we see with cancel culture.
Censorship, censorship-by-proxy, and it’s cousin in so-called free societies, Yeah-but-whatabout-section 230-and-no freeze peach on private-platforms-huh? are the tools of actual extremists. And they have found a comfy nest there in Silicon Valley, doing the work of government, by proxy.
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And an argument could be made that the two versions of said law could merely be restatements of each other, too.
First Poe’s Law: 5 × 6 = 30
Second Poe’s Law: 7 × 8 = 56
Nope, still not seeing it. You’re gonna have to take me by the hand if you want to lead me down that rabbithole.
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Nice try with the numerology. No way in hell I would hold your hand, unless you were drowning, and even then, the caveat would be handcuffs.
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So yet again you admit to having zero evidence for your assertions. Good to know.
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You really count on the fact that Techdirt readers who explore the comments are likely dolts, right? You exploit that loophole.
You are probably “not wrong”in that assumption. But it hearkens to better days, and free-er discourse, when trolls like you would have been banned, by default.
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Why is everything projection with you? Don’t you realize how boring that gets?
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This misuse of “the psychic apparatus” is unfounded and uncalled for! Where the f@ck is my Coke Razor
Applying Coke Razor “The AC troll will always be the troll, be the dumbest troll, and will ALWAYS be the dumbest troll. ”
1.Citation
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You can’t exactly complain about a satirist using your handle when you’ve just used the name of a prominent psychoanalyst to post under, hypocrite.
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You are no satirist, by any stretch of the term, troll. Everyone knows what you do, and why you are here.
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Pointing out satire that anyone can see means I’m the satirist? Guess that means I’m also Ryan Reynolds, then…
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Lol-you actually made me laugh. Yeah, but I mean, who get’s dumped by ScarJo tho’??! Ouch…!
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Nice try with the numerology.
Times tables are numerology now? Wow, I’d not like to have attended whichever school you’re in!
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Likewise, me: your shull שולע must have been a racist hotbed of discord and chaos.Your teacher, likely a scumbag.
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Again with the projection and viewing others as lesser rather than equal. *yawn*
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Wezzzell, dangerous and not dangerous is a binary you might like to explore–your brain is so binary.
Then, Chaim Walder.
Lesser? Equal? Thank’s Amber!!
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.. said nobody demonstrating any capacity for rational independent thought, ever.
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Thanks, Amber!
Re: Re: Re:5 said nobody, ever
Your definition of either “rational” or independent are obviously not in the dictionary–you troll rationalists, and you deplore independent thought and analysis.
Yeah, I just looked through your greatest hits from the last week or so–you’re like qa broken record, and all of your comments are merely re-assertig that you are the nobody demonstrating any capacity for rational independent thought, ever.
Seriously, take a class, get outside a bit, drop the hash pipe–whatever you are doing it’s just redundant.
Said nobody with the slightest comprehension of the concept of censorship, ever.
Jun 30, 2022 @ 12:53am
on Please Take A Moment To Celebrate How A Very Different Supreme Court Saved The Internet 25 Years Ago
And even a quarter-century later, there’s still nobody mentally compent claiming in good faith that Section 230 is a bad thing.
Jun 30, 2022 @ 12:50am
on U.S. Companies Don’t Much Want To Talk About Abortion Data Collection And Protection
… said nobody who has ever demonstrated any capacity for rational independent thought, ever.
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Your definition of either “rational” or independent are obviously not in the dictionary–you troll rationalists, and you deplore independent thought and analysis.
As has already been asked: Why does everything you say about yourself feature projection?
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Yeah, I just looked through your greatest hits from the last year or so (including before you added “DBA” to your ’nym) – you’re like a scratched CD and all of your comments are merely re-asserting that you are the one failing to demonstrate any capacity for rational independent thought, ever.
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Liar. Please show evidence, or STFU. Of course, you cannot.
Don’t Be a[n] ADL-FBI Puppet!!!
And your “thoughts” are straight out of a “defamation and derailment” playbook. Feels so, um, 1962, Francis Dec, lol. So ORIGINAl, AC troll–so very independent!
Your game is thousands of years too long. Please go die in a forest pr something. Or Hainan Xiandun yourself already.
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You mean this evidence you recently provided by commenting on a 5-year-old article because, just like any other troll, you couldn’t hold back your vitriol no matter how irrelevant?
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My criticism stands—everything I wrote there is TRUE, based in facts.
What they are doing to Assange is based in racism, and the exploitation of the narrative split between that point where facts and fictions blur–which is the media and public relations function itself.
Daniel Ellsberg NEVER had such trouble’s. Pierre Omidyar is in fact an ADL mouthpiece–a direct contributor to the problem. And hate is hate, as we see in your case.
So, while you, positioned there at the switch to “catch” things that you think are anti-semitic, keep in mind your own stupid racist basis. You are the “cancer at the internet switch,” and others can see that.
You also massively fail to account for the presence of people like yourself–comment forum derailers who work in ADMIN capacities, and the actual collusion in the US-FVEY’s to effect censorship-by-proxy. This is why the west is LOSING right now.
No rational person would call what I write “trolling” by any stretch–only a shitty, biased person like you who derails comment forums for a living, apparently. And, is subsidized by the ADL to do so, apparently.
Keyword “deliberate.”
All speech is delliberate–so your default is that all speakers are trolls. As LostInLodos, you come here to control the narrative, not to participate in conversation. You stand as the bully at the door, farting on every person who walks by, and threatening beatdowns if they say that you stink.
You exist as a mechanism of the establishment.And your feelz act as a false positive, and smash discourse, when your selfish, private interests are challenged in any way.
Go back to Gaza, and apologize to those you have helped to murder, then let’s “deliberate” about the meaning of “deliberate.” But in your definition, it requires that I post at the level of the average dolt, so I don’t hurt some imaginary friend of yours who might one day read my deliberate comments.
And in so doing, you deny others the ability to deliberate whether or not you yourself are a deliberate provocateur, or just an AC Troll.
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Error: As LostInLodos points out,”
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Like the wand seller in Harry Potter, I remember EVERY person I have ever banned. Ever. On every site I have such a position.
2 since 2020 (6 user IDs, but 2 people).
13 in the 2010s,
6 in the 2000s
… … …
I have, always have had, a distrust of anyone who won’t register.
Again, I have no puppets. I stand firmly on my posts. Right or wrong.
Those who post without an ID are afraid, of something.
To do so at a site like this, you have no spine at all.
We’ll start with anything said by an anonymous, is worth 1/10th a statement from the greatest troll of all time, TrollFireMaster. Look him up. He’s mentioned in Fire in the Valley and iWoz, As the Disk Turns, I.N.C. Etc
So
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So you are saying that the
has failed??!!! OMG!!!???It’s like the Red Sea parted, and all of Egypt is flooding in to get us now!!!!OMGOMGOMG
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What they are doing to Assange is based in racism, and the exploitation of the narrative split between that point where facts and fictions blur–which is the media and public relations function itself.
[Citation needed]
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[Citation Here]
[ANTISEMITISM INSERTION POINT. Insert ADL troll]
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No, you need to provide the links or whatever. We’re not the os who know what’s going through your head unless it’s a bullet.
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Notably absent from your meth-fueled narrative:
Any part where I was once incorrect.
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Now…THAT is actual projection. You hillbillies and your rotten teeth have been featured in many films–all of them look EXACTLY like the daughter you made with your sister.
Doo Da Doon Doon Dooon Doon Doon, as the banjo plays Toom Toom Toom Toom Tom Toom Tooom…
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Start with correcting yourself at “cyclical redundancy errors? Said nobody who has ever used their actual brain and read books beyond C#, using human language, not just some stupid coders jargon.
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Doubling down on admitting to seeing hallucinations? That’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how that works out for you.
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How is “tupid and lacking substance” working out for you? Seriously–I would pay the ticket price to watch a day in your life, Truman. And of course, I would then down-vote everything about it on RottenTomatoes.com
I have never seen anything from you that had meat–no substance, ever. Get a life!
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Someone rational wouldn’t believe that admitting to willful blindness and/or deliberately lying reflects more about my character than yours, but you do you.
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YOUR profile here is what it is. I trust rational people to discover it, and call it out for what it is–“cyclical redundancy errors.”
Remember–you threw shit at ME, FIRST.
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My record: In the top 10 for most insightful/funny votes for years running.
DumB Ass Phillip Trolls’s record: Not a single fact-backed ass-ertion to his name.
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Um, yeah–that one time, in the geriatric home, where I was awarded the prize for “the person who didn’t shart or wet my pants during the performance!”
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Correction: you threw shit at Autie first by suggesting he realize the Internet is international, regardless of the fact he’s a Brit commenting on an American website, and therefore more than likely already knows that. But what does a troll on the level of Robert Mugabe need with facts, huh?
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Um, yeah, that’s a demonstrable lie. You are a real POS.
Re: Re: Re:14
Now I understand: projection is the only real weapon you have because there is no substance to any of your arguments.
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Please do introduce them if you know any. Which, obviously, you do not.
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Please stop projecting. I’m trying to get ready for work, so I can’t afford to fall asleep through boredom.
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You’re not the only individual I’ve spoken to in my life, you know.
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Technically, typing is to speaking, as trolling is to discourse
Re: Re: Re:14
Said the troll, not caring that the facts do not back his assertions.
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o_O You’re asking a troll to provide evidence of their assertions? *wets himself laughing*
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…..and that flagged comment indicates the police union is in the house.
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According to you, the paranoid troll that accused an autistic commenter of lacking empathy as a deflection from his own pathology.
Re: Re: Re:2
You being autistic is not an excuse for you being a harassing bully. Being on some spectrum disorder or another does not give you a free pass for your verbal violence here, or anywhere else.
In meatspace, you would be pounded and flattened like a greasy spoon hamburger, which is why trolls like you hide behind the AC nym.
Zero intellect, zero contributions, zero purpose other than to harass–Silicon Valley is literally infiltrated with your types, whether they are Baptist armies of proselytes, or whatever it is that you are, as noted above.
You are the cancer at the internet switch.
Re: Re: Re:3
You being autistic is not an excuse for you being a harassing bully.
Because all ACs and the named people you bully are the same individual. Right. Q-/
Being on some spectrum disorder or another does not give you a free pass for your verbal violence here, or anywhere else.
Your projection is as obvious and boring as your flagrant misuse of descriptive terms.
Re: Re: Re:4
Thanks, Amber!
Re: find the bill authors and kill them
then kill the cops and major members of victims so called rights organizations. thats the only way it will ever end
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I wrote about that a few months ago at the height of the Gabby Petito co-combatant situation, all of these “feel-good” laws with the name of white, female victims attached are designed to get the girls by the crotch, and are neocon fascism on its face–the beginning of the two-tiered society.
The constitution is fairly clear about rights, and what is and isn’t public, but these demagogues and religious right wingers–allied with the more radical gender identity LGBTQmunity– always manage to make it about “the feelz”when it benefits the police state agenda’s.
It all started with rape shield laws, child protection in family courts, etc. aka, The Domestic Violence Industrial Complex (DVIC) and it’s he-said/she-said narratives. White knightery on acid.
As we saw with Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard, there are ALWAYS two sides to the story, and no amount of feel-good legislation should be allowed to keep that out of the public record.
And it cannot be missed that such laws all carry the name of an [Aimee] (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/34/12113), a [Gabby] (https://www.global-sepsis-alliance.org/news/2018/2/1/gabbys-law#:~:text=A%20law%20known%20as%20%22Gabby%E2%80%99s%20Law%22%20will%20require,passed%20away%20in%202012%20due%20to%20untreated%20sepsis.), a Marsy, or other typical white female names ending in the squeamish “ee” phoneme, which sounds a lot like “pee-pee,””squeal” and “feelz,”
The police state that you write about was built on that exact gendered narrative, holding white females out as the prize to be won, via adopting the white knight position, protecting them at all cost, and above others, just like in the Titanic.
And, these absurdities will go “on and on” because, th deception is Titanic.
“I believe that the heart does go on
Once more you open the door
And you’re here in my heart
And my heart will go on and on”
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And it cannot be missed that such laws all carry the name of an [Aimee] (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/34/12113), a [Gabby] (https://www.global-sepsis-alliance.org/news/2018/2/1/gabbys-law), a Marsy, or other typical white female names ending in the squeamish “ee” phoneme, which sounds a lot like “pee-pee,” “squeal,” and “feelz”.
Said the Georgia police official putting out a Levi’s Call to no one ever. Hot tip: when copying a link from Bing rather than the page the link leads to, it’s a good idea to cut out the extraneous text added by Microsoft.
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Right.Total Markdown fail. I haven’t used it, like, ever. So (tucking head low) I actually took the Markdown tutorial right afterwards, reminding myself that “the internet tis forever!! And someone might notice that total tag fail, lol.
That aside, Amber alerts fall in line with that whole gendered DVIC narrative too–all of those VAWA era laws that sound like “Wawawawawa!!! Nothing to do with kidnappers, everything to do with neocons and fascists solidifying a gendered narrative, and keeping the “good girls” in line with fear messaging.
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That aside, Amber alerts fall in line with that whole gendered DVIC narrative too…
The quoted portion represents a reading comprehension fail on your part. The Wikipedia article Autie linked to does indeed mention the Levi’s Call he referenced.
Re: Re: Re:2
Yeah, I’m sure it does, but Wikipedia is blocked in my region, as a disinformation/forever war propaganda outlet. And, based on the title, I was uncertain if I was being trolled into clicking some religious bullshit, like this other “Levi’s Call.”
I don’t read Wikipedia unless I have to–note my moniker, an homage to a Wikipedia troll named Phillip Cross, who was able to post 24-7, for 5 years straight before it was outed as shill for Forever War, Inc.
But thanks for mentioning that–I looked it up.
It was actually a combination of laziness, trepidation, and caution–after all, its GEORGIA we are talking about there. But its still a cherry off a race and gender biased tree that rhymes with pee-pee, Aimee, and “feelzie.”
Re: Re: Re:3
Given the kind of things you say here, I suspect that you and the Wikipedia Phillip Cross are one and the same. That would also be a far more likely explanation for the Wikipedia block. Just because you can’t edit it, that doesn’t mean you should ignore what’s on it.
Re: Re: Re:4
You say some awful, and kind of paranoid, weird things, most of the time. You also lack human traits like a sense of humor, empathy, and appreciation of irony.
Re: Re: Re:5
Quit projecting, you used scumbag.
Re: Re: Re:6
You seriously had to link to projecting? Anyone, ever knows what that is. Is this your first time at a keyboard?
Re: Re: Re:7
“Is this your first time at a keyboard?” projected the used scumbag of an infamous Wikipedia troll.
Re: Re: Re:8
Who is a troll? Yup. You.
Rational people are learning–it’s you. I am quite open about my nym, anyone can see it. Your lies, and attempts at defamation mean nothing to rational people.
You are a soulless bitter pill.And seriously, give up on the James Cagney–your showing your age. You insults above are content-less”used scumbag, dumb motherfucker, animal.”
Your entire persona reads like a cross between a damsel in distress, and an outdated, corny archetype of a 1930’s era B-movie gangster.
Likely a split personality.
Re: Re: Re:9
Your projection is transparent and boring.
Re: Re: Re:4
OOOps, In the heat of arguing with an AC over speeling errors, I missed the substance of your comment, in re: “Phillip Cross.” The fact is you exhibit more of that operations traits than I ever could.
From Wikispooks:
See? That’s all you, and none of me. See points at operator, and sytematically attack, and undermine, and burnish, pro-establisment, etc.–all you.
You are doing ALL of those things here, right now. If I had a Wikipedia page, you would be over there editing it.
But while you are here, please do point to anything I have done here that is trolling, by any definition of trolling.
Re: Re: Re:5
I repeat: Quit projecting, you used scumbag.
Re: Re: Re:5
The fact is you exhibit more of that operations traits than I ever could.
Projection.
See? That’s all you, and none of me. See points at operator, and sytematically attack, and undermine, and burnish, pro-establisment, etc.–all you.
And more projection.
You are doing ALL of those things here, right now.
Indeed you are, projector.
If I had a Wikipedia page, you would be over there editing it.
You do have aWikipedia article, but what it currently says about your bad behavior is accurate enough that there’s no need to edit it.
But while you are here, please do point to anything I have done here that is trolling, by any definition of trolling.
The comment I’m currently replying to is just one example out of many on this very page.
Re: Re: Re:6
Thanks, Amber!
In other news, poor Francis Dec! His adversary was a power-imbued judge from the Bastards of Italy brigade Frank A. Gulotta. It never ends well when intel types team up with the judiciary and “official narrative” to stalk, hunt, and defame people–which is of course, why Phillip Cross SHOULD be defamed!
Have at it my loving little pigs, sows, and dogs–you know who you are. You. Yeah, YOU.
Re: Re: Re:7
You can’t claim to be an “intel type”. You’ve yet to show evidence of sufficient intelligence.
Re: Re: Re:6
Thanks,Amber!
Re: Re: Re:3
Yeah, I’m sure it does, but Wikipedia is blocked in my region, as a disinformation/forever war propaganda outlet.
I don’t read Wikipedia unless I have to…
Either you have the choice or you don’t, fucking liar.
Re: Re: Re:4
Right, use your imagination dumb-ass. Neither statement negates the other, you binary nutcase.
Re: Re: Re:5
The claim that Wikipedia is blocked in your region does indeed negate the statement that you don’t edit it unless you have to, dumbass.
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How does not knowing Markdown explain your failure to take out extra text from links? It doesn’t highlight and backspace for you, you know.
Re: Re: Re:2
Do mind you there are many flavours of markup/markdown.
I prefer BBS,
[url=website.next]text here[/url]
And here the markdown is very (vs [B]very[/B] )
Re: Re: Re:3
And that still doesn’t explain the failure of one of your fellow trolls to highlight the offending text and hitting the backspace button.
Re: Re: Re:4
troll? How so?
As for extra text, not everyone understands link syntax. Most don’t.
So a statement as to removing extra text from a link is quite subjective. What can be removed is not a common knowledge.
As far as I can see all links on this page are well formed. But I’m not going to go looking through the embedded ones.
So either you are pointing to something indirectly that I’m not seeing, or your simply wrong.
And I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because even Mike has acknowledged that threading isn’t working right.
Re: Re: Re:5
Troll? How so?
Previous comments on this very site are full of trollish behavior.
As for extra text, not everyone understands link syntax. Most don’t. So a statement as to removing extra text from a link is quite subjective. What can be removed is not a common knowledge.
Right, because it’s not at all possible to hover on the link before right-clicking to copy it so you can compare the original link to what you copied. Q-/ Dumb motherfucker is dumb.
Re: Re: Re:6
It’s not my job to go through and do that. No, if you want to point out a clear example I’d be happy to look!
And I’m quite sure even if you do find such a link it would still be a matter of a lay person not knowing what could be excluded.
I get it though. Your a code master. An HL god in need of control. I don’t condemn that. Crap code is crap code no matter the language.
But you can’t blame a person who copied a link and doesn’t know good language practice.
Re: Re: Re:7
Re:
You are pretty good at profiling. I initially profiled the AC exactly that way too.
While coders should be respected, their cold, detached language CANNOT become the ling de franc, for that reason–when we study the language of control (CONTROLLING LANGUAGE), we find bad things beneath it.
The first hit in a search is the Hegelian Dialectic, no shit. Control language, and you control the masses–it’s intentions always to dehumanize.
But again, I appreciate that AC dropped the nagging, and I am working harder to create better links–a little nagging can be effective and constructive.
Re: Re: Re:8
Actually, you and your puppetmaster are pretty shit at profiling. But then, what else can one expect from a troll other than their need to always be right, especially when they can’t be any more wrong?
Re: Re: Re:9
More paranoid gibberish. Do you have anything meaningful or a contribution to add, other than weird defamation? I mean, I get it, it’s what your types are paid to do, but seriously. Get help.
Re: Re: Re:10
More paranoid gibberish. Do you have anything meaningful or a contribution to add, other than weird defamation? I mean, I get it, it’s what your types love to do, but seriously. Get help.
Good advice. Such a shame you’re so bad at following it.
Re: Re: Re:11
Right. Thanks for that acknowledgement. I am truly looking for guidance. Can you help me? I am struggling with “go fuvking kill yourself,” but I lack a good example. Could you demonstrate that for me, so I can “get help?”
Much appreciated!
Post it to Trump-tube or whatever it’s called. I can get that in regions that censor Youtube. And, I will sitkaddish for DAys IN YOUR HONOR, rambling incoherently about what a true leader you were too, guaranteeing your place in hell, or wherever it is that 8rolls go after they off themselves.
Re: Re: Re:12
Thanks, Amber!
Re: Re: Re:9
You’re fairly funny! I almost like you. Not YOU, but your you presence.
You are a prime example of failed premise.
I have no master, for I will not be a slave.
I have no slave for I wish not to be a master.
And if you’d step outside your self inflicted prison walls, you’ll find I bow to no one. I’ve been around since before the internet.
Line up every person you know and I’ll destroy them in tech. I’m fluent in more languages (computer and human) than you are aware exist. I travel the world destroying those who compromise freedom of speech.
I am but a remnant of memory three passes later. My politics are my own. And every party world wide, every group, every individual: I could care less.
Or, as a great philosopher once said; cower before me for I am my own god.
I am lostinlodos. The one and only. I will never use an alternate. I will not be silent, and I will not be misrepresented.
Re: Re: Re:10
A great philosopher once said
LOL. So, if all premises are false, and all false conclusions valid, only the human being has the ability to correct that, with human speech, and other efforts.
This is the post-911 era after all. Nu/New World Order and all that, at all costs.
Yes, that’s what this is all about. The Great Frankenstein Gangster Computer God. For whatever it’s worth, crazy Francis Dec described this Golem pretty accurately, despite the racist psychobabble.
Re: Re: Re:11
The first quote on master and slave comes from DDCoop. 1986. A prominent disk track DRM cracker. A reference to his/her hatred of damaging load on boot modifications.
The second comes from ASL in the mid 70s
A line later used slightly modified by Marlin Manson, as “I’m not a slave to a god that doesn’t exist”.
cower before me for I am my own god. I serve none but myself. I fear no one but myself. I am not afraid of a god that doesn’t exist. I do not fear a devil that doesn’t exist. I do not serve a world that doesn’t give a shit.
The underlying idea is powerful. I am what I am. Take it or leave it.
This particular AC is growing on me. They use logic and reason, flawed or not.
But never make the mistake of thinking I am anyone else. Or anyone else is me.
The ONLY other name’s I’ve used, pre early 90s, we’re LLFDos, 6432EURT. The former as a Usenet/wan handle, the latter on BBS and newsgroups.
Re: Re: Re:12
Well, for a short time I was Guide|JamP on aol. Before switching to lostinlodos. A period of about a month I believe.
GJP fell into the “hole” during a “stadium” event and was unrecoverable. Sad.
For aol users who remember stadium events, you probably remember the yield cone and the “don’t fall in the hole” warnings of the early AOL days. The other ‘casualty’ was VGS:Guide|KAT who came back as Guide|HolePatchKat
But we’re way off topic now.
Re: Re: Re:13
Off track is ok. If there’s one good thing about trolls and AC’s is that, occasionally, their derailments end in good things that they did not intend. The story you shared earlier–quite an insightful bit of a person’s journey.
The AC that you are BFFing right now is attempting to co-opt my current nym here, posting in my name, because it’s too stupid and cruel to play by the rules of common civility. And this has been done many times here at TD–people do in fact recognize my voice as distinct from all their navel gazing, cheerleader, and political polarization.
And, some know that I have actually changed the entire world’s discussions–the last few years ago Floyd protests started at my literal doorstep.
I use different nyms, because I am a targeted speaker, having fought epic battles with the police state messaging apparatus for decades. In my writing across the web, each conversation is its own chapter. Here, that group literally forms up a gang, and flags my posts. I assist others who they are bullying/
As for the book, only I can read the entire book, for now–but unironically, it is a book about names, and censorship–the ritualized practice of “un-naming” that is widespread across the FVEYs right now. And, censorship that starts in the most unlikely places, unsurprisingly so-called “liberal” forums that host AC trolls–and those who are not bright enough to see that most AC’s are JTRIG, or similar spookshops, causing division, and stealing our time.
Francis Dec got that part of their machinery correct, no doubt, and it all started with some Freemason’s calling him a Polock and then systematically calling him racist and crazy, and working to destroy his life–he was not crazy at all,and this is a definite thing that happens in western societies–and right here, too.
So, yeah–pearls/swine, ehatever. But never my real name;-)
Re: Re: Re:14
Off track is OK. If there’s one good thing about trolls and sockpuppets is that, occasionally, their back and forth end in exposure that they did not intend.
Re: Re: Re:15
Um–I am well aware of your position here now, and your alliance with speech suppression–and that’s exposure you didn’t intend either.
You ARE the cancer at the internet switch.
Re: Re: Re:16
Projected the troll.
Re: Re: Re:14
The AC that you are BFFing right now…
Links.
…is attempting to co-opt my current nym here, posting in my name…
I’ve seen a single post clearly not by you, which is hardly co-opting anything, but is clearly satirical. What’s the matter? I thought you were all for free speech.
…because it’s too stupid and cruel to play by the rules of common civility.
The rules of common civility include not talking about people as “it”, so you’re hardly in a position to tell others to play by those rules, hypocrite.
I use different nyms…
Thank you for the admission that you are indeed a sockpuppet.
…because I am a targeted speaker, having fought epic battles with the police state messaging apparatus for decades.
That’s not a “police state” “targeting you”, fool. That’s your comments being hidden because no one likes a load of garbage polluting their immediate environment.
Re: Re: Re:15
Well you got this right:
Yes”no one,” you are an AC troll. Being no one is ok, amongst nobodies–get comfortable there. Your continued presence here is like cancer, clinging to a fetus.
As Lost In Lodos pointed out, your net worth as AC is less then 1/10 of the value of any random troll.
My work, however was featured world wide in the news, on multiple occasions–some of those occasions lasting years. No less-than-garbage AC troll can dent that performance.
As for your other charges–these arbitrary rules of trolling that you routinely exploit are meaningless–written by spergs and feelies in the 1980’s Usenet.
The AC loophole that you routinely exploit–and this very forums admin’s acknowledgement that you are cancer–means that rules of any kind go out the window. You exist solely to derail, and destroy dialogue.
What you are doing has little to do with free speech, and everything to do with subverting it. EVERYTHING.
And you are an “it” by definition. You ONLY troll and harass–and attempt to keep discourse on a narrow course that benefits you in some way.
As an “it”, and as I have maintained over several years of this discussion–you are likely a .ml, .intel, .ngo, or .adl troll–not an individual by even the most wild leap.
And as such you are part of the Worldwide Frankenstein Gangster Computer God thingy that Francis Dec described so brilliantly.
AI is an “it,” too–you exhibit no human trairts whatsoever, so my default is that you are an “it.” And I don’t believe that it deserves human rights by any stretch. Here’s the problem with it:
Again–you exhibit zero human traits, over multiple conversations, spanning half a decade, most-chiefly is your chronic attempts to stifle conversation.
Re: Re: Re:16
Again–you exhibit zero human traits, over multiple conversations, spanning half a decade, most-chiefly is your chronic attempts to stifle conversation.
A surprising amount of honesty from you, albeit in the form of more projection.
Re: Re: Re:10
I travel the world destroying those who compromise freedom of speech.
So you’re another Reich whinger that believes in speech free of consequences only for those that think like you. Thanks for the tip.
Re: Re: Re:11
Citation needed.
Good luck finding anywhere that can be qualified. There’s a reason I never post as anonymous. Coward! I take full responsibility for what I say, have said, and will say
Maybe take a look at how fast I was to attack right wing “social” sites for bans and censorship?
Re: Re: Re:12
Good point–Anonymous Cowards are always government, intel, and NGO trolls, professional derailers or as we see on the far right boards, in house admin’s.
Ooops! Mebbe not jus’ far right–We are seeing that HERE, NOW.
Keep up the good work of free speech.
Re: Re: Re:7
It’s not my job to go through and do that.
And it’s not your job to defend a particularly repugnant troll, either, yet you have. Maybe because they’re a sockpuppet of yours?
Re: Re: Re:8
Considering that you are now impersonating me here, in other threads, and leaving fake comments, using my nym, you should known for what you are, AC troll. A truly bad person.
I hope you experience hardship, soon. Real hardship, the kind that makes crybullying shitbags like you want to kill themselves.
The fact that you claim you are autistic does not excuse your antisocial behavior. So–I will now seek to lock you up in a “safespace.”
Re: Re: Re:9
Considering that you are now impersonating me here, in other threads, and leaving fake comments, using my nym…
Because I’m the only one intelligent enough to see your trolling for what it is? Well, I’d thank you for the compliment if it didn’t feature denigration of other commenters as being as dumb as you clearly are.
…you should known for what you are, troll. A truly bad sockpuppet.
FTFY. YW.
Re: Re: Re:10
Well, your honesty is surprising–you are admitting to trolling and also that you are impersonating me here in these threads. Bookmarking for posterity.
And, re:
You are a harasser, thread stalker, and a bully–the farting fat guy by the door who threatens to beat people up. every time someone says you stink.
And al of that as an AC. What’s in a name? Everything, in your case.
Re: Re: Re:11
Funny, I didn’t see a single accusation in that entire comment that didn’t feature projection. What is it with you trolls and that form of gaslighting?
Re: Re: Re:8
While Lostcause is definitely regularly dishonest, especially about how deeply marinated he is in biased right-wing propaganda, he’s never struck me as the sockpuppeting type.
Re: Re: Re:9
There’s always a first time for everything, and the evidence certainly points that way.
Re: Re: Re:9
I find it honourable, and a bit funny: you stick your guns.
My daily reading list?
Techdirt -tech related
Ars Technica -pop culture
CreepyPasta – horror shorts
TorrentFreak – copyright/tech/internet
OS Daily – software
DivaDirt -wrestling
Independent Violence – wrestling
Dredcentral – horror media
Gore – horror media
FFRF – anti-religion
Most are short 1-3 article releases.
How is any of that “right wing propaganda”.
I thank you for the SP support though. I don’t need to his. My opinions are my own and I don’t really care, ultimately, if others agree with me.
If you do, good, and if you don’t, good. I don’t want to live in a opinion clone bubble.
Re: Re: Re:10
How is any of that “right wing propaganda”?
Since when has any Communist party been right wing?
Re: Re: Re:7
But you can’t blame a person who copied a link and doesn’t know good language practice.
Actually, it’s clear they’re the only one to blame.
Re: Re: Re:8
Ahh… well… I …
I guess your right. I concede.
Re: Re: Re:9
Well, it has been half a week–my prediction that this ass would continue this for a week is halfway there.
Re: Re: Re:7
I get it though. Your a code master. An HL god in need of control.
Hence your sockpuppet joining in with you to attack an autistic commenter.
But you can’t blame a person who copied a link and doesn’t know good language practice.
And there’s the admission that “DBA Phillip Cross” is your sockpuppet. The quotation above shows that you lack good language control, just like your creation.
Re: Re: Re:8
Again–you being autistic does NOT get you a free pass to harass, troll, and bully people. And even mentioning that makes you a crybully.
Then–here you are on the paranoid spectrum above, flinging your garbage at someone who has no connection to my comments whatsoever. You are a sicko. And:
No–it’s not a sockpuppet, its an internet nym and people like me use them so that sick people like you cannot distort are meanings or intentions in real life, the way you distort things online. You are not a good person–the internet is full of “you,”and none of you are good people.
Get some help. Take your meds or whatever it is that makes people like you act human. Because you are not doing that, and the world is not going to accommodate itself to your distorted mind, although, for some reason, this forum does seem friendly to your psychopathology.
Re: Re: Re:9
Again–you having a personality disorder does NOT get you a free pass to harass, troll, and bully people. And even mentioning that makes you a crybully. Also, I’d classify your unnecessary “advice” to take medication as projection, but long years of working with individuals like you has taught me there’s no successful pharmacological treatment for your disease.
Re: Re: Re:10
Thanks Amber!
Re: Re: Re:8
A sock puppeteer has control over the sock. I have no sock. I am myself and need no secondary account to make my point.
Btw, dPC and i are clearly not aligned. You could look up commentary history if you had a sack or clit.
I simply oppose ignorant stupidity. I simply refuse to let you sir/mam/it/them to use politics to attack reality. There are over 8 billion people on earth. Less than 1% could properly trim HTML tracking.
that’s not political, it’s fact
Re: Re: Re:9
You could look up commentary history if you had a sack or clit.
Nice attack on scrotal cancer and FGM surivors. M
I simply oppose ignorant stupidity. I simply refuse to let you sir/mam/**/them to use politics to attack reality.
So basically, you oppose trans rights, just like another unpopular troll. Well, it’s good to finally learn the identity of the puppetmaster of Hyman Rosen and Koby.
Re: Re: Re:10
🤦♂️
I give up. You have troll down to an art form.
Bring contextualised evidence of your above claim. Otherwise
Ttfn, hand, hagt, hanl.
Re: Re: Re:11
Right, because no one is aware of the anti-trans views of you and the other two named commenters.
Re: Re: Re:12
What anti trans views? Again evidence please.
We’re all waiting?
Re: Re: Re:13
The evidence is in your assertionof others using politics to attack reality, a favorite contention of the “gender critical” brigade.
Re: Re: Re:14
Are you confused? Or stupid?
Because without some link to back that…Even in my disagreements on how fast we should establish change, and my level of concern for the non-concurrent opportunities for abuse; I have never said anything against proceeding forward with integration.
I’m probably the most outspoken outright supporter of nongendering, free sex, non-committal, be-yourself pro nudity user techdirt today. If ever.
So put a link where your fingers are.
Re: Re: Re:11
Don’t be too quick to calling this type of bullying and harassment “art” lest it become popular in the public imagination.
Re: Re: Re:11
Yeah, huh, huh?! Wut he said!
And even he left out the billions of foreskins that have been lost, severed, sliced and diced over the centuries–a curious position for someone who is both po-scotum, and pro-clit.
An even more curious position for someone who is anti-Bettleheim. The AC is pro-mutilation of male genitalia, which is why it deplores Bettlleheim, who wrote extensively about such perverts.
Re: Re: Re:12
Way to misstate someone’s position, but what else can be expected of a projecting, ignorant troll.
Re: Re: Re:13
Um, rational minds will know that this is what you have said and inferred. You are incapable of engaging on substance, even if it’s your OWN substance.
Care to take on the Bettleheim claim, Phillistine? Yup–I didn’t think so.
Re: Re: Re:14
Anything coming from you is a claim with zero evidence behindit, which fact is so obvious there’sno real need to rebut all your bullshit.
Re: Re: Re:6
All those claims–none of that evidence! You are indeed an interesting case study.
Re: Re: Re:7
Why are you talking about yourself like that? Self-flagellation is so medieval.
Re: Re: Re:5
This AC is quite the niggler. Unbelievable, it harps on a code error for two days–put your money on “it will drag this out for a week or more” if you let it.
Then comes its pal Grammar Nazi troll to help fight its battles followed shortly by an army of people enraged that you made a spelling error.
And as you note, there problems in the threads–bigger fish to fry– but geesh, this AC troll is quicksand. Imagine the loss of minutes just arguing with its trollish hyper-positions here? Endless time sucker.
Re: Re: Re:6
1) Not deleting extra text is a failure to engage in basic actions on your part, not merely a “coding error”.
2) You accuse someone above of a “lack of empathy”, and then talk about an actual person as “it”? Yeah, the person you projected your pathology onto isn’t the one lacking empathy here, buddy.
Re: Re: Re:7
Ooops. I spoke too soon. See my last comment to Lodos, above.
Re: Re: Re:8
Ooops. I spoke too soon. See my last comment to my puppetmaster, above.
FTFY. YW.
Re: Re: Re:9
You have only three more days until my prediction about you comes true.
FTW. SMH.
Re: Re: Re:10
Why are you talking about yourself like that? Self-flagellation is so medieval.
Re: Re: Re:5
Follow this thread. What we have is an ignoramous, but that ignoramus appears to control, or be sheltered by Techdirt.
It gets away with saying bad, terrible things–but no “troll army” punishes or deletes it, as opposed to other commenters.
Kill the spawn, the progenitor follows.
Re: Re: Re:6
Why are you talking about yourself like that? Self-flagellation is so medieval.
Re: Re: Re:7
That’s exactly the kind of thing Amber Heard would say to Johnny Depp–and also why he WON his defamation lawsuit.
Path-narc’s gonna path-narc, crybullies gonna’ crybully–and sometimes, fling bottles at your head when they are seen for what they are.
Re: Re: Re:8
That’s exactly the kind of thing Amber Heard would say to Johnny Depp–and also why he WON his defamation lawsuit.
If you mean your dehumanization of people by referring to them as “it”, you’re actually correct for once in your short sockpuppet life.
Re: Re: Re:9
Thank’s Amber!
Re: Re: Re:4
Seriously–define “troll” Anonymous Coward. Again–you lack human traits, and in fact, exhibit paranoid, and even sadistic, antisocial traits.
As most rolls do, of course.
Re: Re: Re:5
Having a different opinion doesn’t mark one a troll. The premise dates to the 80s but comes from MUDs.
A troll sits in the corner, reading, waiting. Attacks simply to attack. And slinks off at the first sign of resistance.
As opposed to flamers. Who are only interested in long drawn out fighting by taking a stance simply to be contrary.
Neither fits myself. I have rational, if heated, discussion on topics. my sources may be wrong. And if I’m clearly wrong I admit it. That’s why I’m here. To be corrected when wrong and correct others when they are wrong.
I debate. Something congress needs to return to. I’m not partisan. Every US party would toss me out in a second over one stance or another.
Re: Re: Re:6
Re, this:
These Nazi’s and ADL types who hide behind the AC default never do this–I wonder which synagogue or church they work out of…?!
Re: Re: Re:7
I don’t know, so let’s ask them. What synagogue or church do you work out of?
Re: Re: Re:8
Um, a communist one, if that helps. A place free of the disease of religion.
Re: Re: Re:9
If religion is a disease, then what is its vector? Oh, sorry. I should know better than to ask a troll’s sockpuppet a complex scientific question like that.
Re: Re: Re:10
Yeah, oooh vector–you used a big word! It’s people, silly. always people.
The Abrahamic Trifecta, and it’s Masonic world order. People of the Flavian Book.
But I told you that already–you aren’t capable of reading. You exist solely to troll, niggle, and nag.
Re: Re: Re:11
But I told you that already–you aren’t capable of reading. You exist solely to troll, niggle, and nag.
Seriously, dude, why? Don’t you know how boring constant projection gets, or do you not care because you’re a troll?
Re: Re: Re:10
Religion isn’t a disease. It’s a rationalist perspective of reality of death.
Fucking cowards.
Re: Re: Re:11
Maimonides styled rationalism, or the scientific counterpart? These smear and trollboys like to skip between the two, like it’s just another day at the fiction factory, writing things like this.
I am no fan of absolutism of any kind–experience demonstrates that rational explanations cannot account for everything, and can often be incorrectly arrived at, similar to SETI close calls.
California, the US debt, and anywhere Israelification is practicedUkraine are all cases of absolutists, burning the village to save it.
Re: Re: Re:12
I consider myself agnostic. The statistical probability of a “higher” unknown is better than not. And that probability leans to multiple more than single.
Existence generally doesn’t do single anything. Multiple uniques is more the flow. Meaning more than one ‘things’ we less-understanding would see as gods and magic and such.
That said, if there is a “higher”, and I’m supposed to believe. They’ll let me know. My guess is that those beings simply don’t care.
Clearly we’re not needed. Or we’d be talking with clouds and burning foliage on a regular basis.
As it stands we generally read form books of man. A few talk with deranged snakes. Others talk to a little voice in their head.
One thing about organised religion of the various sourced books is they all miss the key premise related in similar tones.
Speak not to a prior for they are lost.
Suffer not the prophetic to live.
Beware for I send not ahead.
Etc.
In other words, if true, your own guiding text says not to believe in the ritual house you attend.
The Gnostic gospels all were named for the enlightenment of a personal Jesus and a personal relationship with god. The very idea was a strike at the power of the forming church.
If there was a singular christ (Roman Chris) of the Jews, (Jesu/Jese) with real followers then the Gnostic texts such as Judas and Mot are far more likely to be ‘accurate’ portrayal.
The irony of christian belief is that the gospel of John is so filled with subtle warnings of a combined power leading away from god and Jesus.
today many believe Revelation was about Rome. But the Gnostic interpretation, then and now, follows the abandoned books. The apocalypse is not of man and spirit but in the growth of multiple powerful churches which hold wealth and power. Deluding the connection to god.
Wow. That was quite long! Sorry
Re: Re: Re:13
Yeah, I am stone cold “it’s all a lie, designed for the profit of the few.”
Right. parallel universes, wormholes and all that–the mouse, contemplating the cheese, knowing with certainty it is his and his alone doesn’t cut it. Natural Laws explain it quite accurately–the Wow! Signal too.The human’s quest to defeat loneliness by finding, then suspecting, then killing “their enemy,” lol. Pattern repeats–always the 1% emerging unscathed.
And that is all described from even before the rape of the Sabine women too. And “was jesus realllly Titus Flavius!?“Who gives a f@ck. I am so over the entire Moses-Jewish-Christ-christian-Kelloggs serial killer-protestant-catholic-christcuckoldry- other world confabulations that seek space in my head and life. Devoting even small talk to them and their World Order’s is best avoided, and you will never regain the breath you lose blowing wind about them.
Richard Stanley, et al. cover it quite well, and attributes it to Freemasons and their various “orders”–not a theory, and not a conspiracy per se anymore than the obvious conspiracies they engage inFreemason’s want Israeli’s to know–We Ar Not A Cult!!. The White Helmet’s in Syria being a recent example, or the complacency in Ecuador.
He calls these traitorous, murderous psychopathic liars and frauds the People of the Flavian Book, and he is spot on. It’s the keystone of western culture–but surprisingly has infiltrated eastern culture at key stress points too (though Hong Kong was a massive fail, lol).
The Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics also covers the internecine relationships between the Global elite, their NGO’s and World Order Org.s and their convenient religious narratives and morality plays that pop up just after they wage mass casualties is quite accurate too.
Re: Re: Re:14
[Citation needed]
Re: Re: Re:15
Thanks, Amber!
1.Citation
Re: Re: Re:11
Actually, religion is the hope of some form of existence after death. Fucking liar.
Re: Re: Re:12
Huh? Science has already proven there is existence after death. Matter doesn’t get destroyed.
Your body will add important nutrients to the soil helping other life to spring up.
So are you saying that not only do you believe in fantasy beings but you reject the scientific proof of existence after death and exchange it for some possible metaverse?
Re: Re: Re:13
Way to deliberately misinterpret what was said, but it’s good you didn’t leave the task to your sockpuppet so we know what you believe: you’re the only one with any knowledge of a subject, and everyoneelse’s opinions are wrong.
Re: Re: Re:14
I don’t have a sock puppet. But nice try.
Here a question! why do you cling to “everlasting life”?
There isn’t a non-religious philosopher out there that hasn’t directly tied ‘hope for new eternal life’ and the fear of death.
I have yet to read from a monotheist or duothiest explain competently why they look forward to “heaven” and what makes it so great.
Sorry, no monotheistic religion exists now or in history that doesn’t pander to the fear of death.
Re: Re: Re:15
Here a question! why do you cling to “everlasting life”?
There isn’t a non-religious philosopher out there that hasn’t directly tied ‘hope for new eternal life’ and the fear of death.
If having received Religious Education in school means I’m religious, I guess I must simultaneously believe in God, believe that something exists without knowing who or what, and that there is nothing at all since I also learnt about agnosticism and atheism in those same lessons. Not my parents couldn’t afford private school fees, so I attended public school like most kids do. You? Home educated by an ignoramus, I’m guessing.
Re: Re: Re:16
What are you on about? I never even implied anything about home school. Or public or private school. Or any school.
Re: Re: Re:17
*whooosh*
Re: Re: Re:12
[Citation Needed]
Re: Re: Re:13
Why are you talking about yourself like that? Self-flagellation is so medieval.
Re: Re: Re:6
Re
Not here–here they back-channel discuss, and then form flag armies.
Re: Re: Re:7
Well, at least it falls short of censorship here. The comments are still there. Just tucked away.
Compare that to Facebook and truth that simply delete stuff.
I don’t like it, but it’s non-destructive.
Re: Re: Re:8
Right, not censorship–but quite revealing of the direction this forum takes, and WHO takes it in that direction.
It’s also a form of censorship-by-proxy, as military and intelligence troll farms can and do leverage that exact feature, EXACTLY as we see AC #1 doing.
Derailing is a JTRIG GCHQ specialty, but the FVEY’s and it’s CIA NGO’s have mastered it too.
So, censorship-by-proxy of the willful ignorance of those who don’t know this, and especially toxic when utilized by those that DO know this. But also by their acceptance of the brainwashing systems in place that cause them to see Russians!! Chinese!! Nazi’s!!! under every rock.
Who need’s actual bad guys, when the brainwashed believe their actions of speech suppression are just?
Re: Re: Re:9
It’s also a form of censorship-by-proxy, as military and intelligence troll farms can and do leverage that exact feature, EXACTLY as we see AC #1 doing.
At least you can finally admit there’s more than one user of the AC badge.
Re: Re: Re:10
No there’s not. In the troll army context, the greater force occupies the space of the individual. AC’s are united in only one purpose, and likely across platforms, working from .mil, .ngo, .adl, and .intel hubs–part of a larger entity.
Their purpose is derailment, and as such are one entity, and while it’s easy to pick out the different “voices” behind their cowardice (one troll says “dumb motherfucker!” while the other says “scumbag!” as they unite in the memetic “that’s projection!”) , their purpose is the same–and as such, it’s irrelevant that they may, or may not be human, individuals, or AI.
As LiL pointed out, AC’s are all despicable, and ranked lower than ordinary trolls–I at least give up bread crumbs so that admin’s can make a rough guess as to who I actually am.
Re: Re: Re:11
Your use of the term “AC#1” implies your knowledge of an “AC#2”, dipshit. Just because it’s deeply unpleasant for you to be caught admitting to a fact, it’s too late to lie about it now.
Re: Re: Re:12
Right, Top Troll, and Bottom troll–we see what you two are on about. But you missed the caveat–
SO, one unified troll, same derailment purpose, so, one troll cuz AC nym. ANYONE devoid of humanity, or individuality can do what you are doing.
So–all as one.
Re: Re: Re:11
So here you demonstrate a new tool in your kit: lying as well as the usual projection.
Re: Re: Re:6
And if I’m clearly wrong I admit it.
[Citation needed]
Re: Re: Re:5
Seriously, you need to stop talking about yourself like that and seek psychological help to grow feelings for yourself and others.
Re: Re: Re:6
Thanks, Amber!
Re: Re: Re:7
No, I’m not Amber Heard. Thanks for the acknowledgement that I’m better than you, though.
Re: Re: Re:8
Thanks, Amber!
Re: Re: Re:3
Right, lots of code out there. I was excited to take the tutorial.
I am fortunate enough to be a human being, so we as humans occasionally make mistakes. I generally work with code-free environments, or cut and paste for non-coders.
I cannot imagine the emptiness, and tin-smelling minds of someone that would find such a thing worth nagging about for several days, but yeah–those people are out there…
Rolls eyes
Re: Re: Re:4
Of all the things people pick on…? 🫤
There are literally over 50 markdown languages. Hundreds when you properly count markdown as a markup subset. It took multiple tries to get embedded html to work here. But I figured it out eventually. And don’t intend to utilise it often.
This site uses some variation close to wiki. But not completely compatible. It’s a strong style with closure. Making long run formatting easier. But sacrifices ease and swiftness for that.
Good for the twitface generation.
I’m from the Usenet and BBS era. I still write long messages (obviously).
I prefer soft single for markdown, and strong closure for languages.
Funny how the entire industry has flipped to the opposite.
Picking on someone’s markdown issues is a bit of bullying. In my view.
Re: Re: Re:5
Exactly. This site is rife with bullying. It incentivizes trolls, and especially, trolls who are connected to the internet switch(i.e. Infragard agents, FVEY trolls, and rats), or employed in places like this exact forum.
Over 50 Markdown languages. But yes, I admit my fault–none of these pedophiles who hide behind the AC moniker ever do.
I simply erred in my syntax.Then, syntaX “nAZI’S” JUMPED ON IT–HAVE NO QUESTION ABOUT WHO WILL BE SENDING WHO INTO GAS CHAMBERS–OR “DATABASES, THAT TRACK VACCINE COMPLIANCE, VIA A HANDY app ON YOUR PERSONAL TRACKING DEVICE” AKA “YOUR CELL PHONE.”
In other news–note the virulent “anti-democracy” types in the thread, and for fun check out Weev, my current favorite Jewish “Nazi”.
Quite a guy–one of the good guys actually, fighting race supremacy gangs in the Anti Defamation League, and racist B’nai B’rith “Zionists v. Goyim” garbage. WHO CAN POSSIBLY BEAT THE ORTHODOXY FOR RACIST CRED? NO ONE. THEY KILL US IN EVERY GENERATION.They have the money, the power, and the ear of oligarchs–they P*WNED the British crom for Satan’s sake!
It’s a sad fact. So, yeah–Hitler merely threw off their yoke. And, British -Israel was pinched to explain all of that to “the masses”.
So done with their version of reality.
Re: Re: Re:6
I simply erred in my syntax.
No you didn’t, but you have doubled down in constantly lying about it.
Re: Re: Re:6
So done with reality.
We can tell.
Re: Re: Re:7
Thanks, Amber!
1.Citation
Re: Re: Re:5
Failing to delete “:#~long_string_of_text_at_end_of_url” is not a “Markdown issue”, but one troll backing another is evidence of sockpuppeting, Jhon Smith.
Re: Re: Re:6
Knowing that long string of text is deletable is a matter of specific education.
Sometimes that long string is directional. Sometimes it’s guidance. And sometimes it points to a specific resource.
Sometimes it’s tracking information. Or source referral.
Most people simply copy past.
Re: Re: Re:7
Exactly. You were spot on about who the bully is here.
And they exhibit quite a limited education at that.
Re: Re: Re:8
And yet more projection from the sockpuppet bullying an autistic commenter. *yawns*
Re: Re: Re:9
I assure you with tech as proof that I am no puppeteer. I have no beef with NA. And no control over DPC.
I have ATS myself. I’d never attack someone with a genetic concern over genetics. I have BPT D and ADHDD as well. Welcome to earth. You’re an idiot.
Re: Re: Re:10
Note that the AC in question is not only posing as me on other threads now, but also hides its bullying behind an alleged mental illness–a classic GCHQ trick of defamation.
I have nothing against people who accept some kind of diagnoses, even though I think MI is 90% bullshit. Good for you TCB.
Re: Re: Re:11
Note that the sockpuppet in question is not only hiding its bullying by hypocritical accusations of others, but also implying that autism is a mental illness–a classic Bruno Bettelheim trick of defamation.
Re: Re: Re:12
For the record, as you likely might know, I knew people who knew Bettleheim. I have also known a few “mechanical boys” and even a “Wooden Boy,” most of them geniuses, with high academic credentials–listen, I am well aware of the war on male intellect, and maybe yours too.
Bettleheim had zero concern for defamation, until it was he that was defamed. But for the first time–maybe EVER– you brought something to the table! Patting you on the back now!
I tend to side with his analysis of the family of origin being the problem–much like M. Scott Peck described “human evil” as a familial problem, Bettleheim also blamed family of origin for autism. I ESPECIALLY APPLAUD HIS THESIS WHEREIN HE STATES THAT MOTHERS ARE SPECIFICALLY THE PROBLEM–(caps-lock, I wont edit).
To whit: Autism as
As I have stated multiple times, over decades, I think most psychology is pure bullshit and psychobabble–religious sects arguing through echo chambers, cross -citing their own gibbersih, trying to call the other sects and cults “evil,” or to place “mental illness” exactly as magicians of old placed ritual defamation.
Predictably, Bettleheim made some enemies, who later accused him of beating up children–and all of THAT because he tread upon the sacrosanct territory of these psychopathic Virgin Mary as archetype Catholic “women protectors” who cannot tolerate any criticism of women–no matter how deranged these mothers might be, because the Catholic’s exploit every child as a resource–and other non-Jewish religions do it to.
Holding up pictures of dead babies killed by the evil abortionist, while mercillessly stalking and trollling–relentlessly pursuing those of us who published Iraq war “depleted uranium” baby pictures.
An argument could also be made that Bettleheim was part of a “Chicago School” of thought much like the Frankfurt School of thought–we see some Jews trapped in christian cultures, rebelling, but also, trying to reframe narratives of power relations via psychological processes, and then getting creamed for it. Some are horrible baby-poisoners, others are more truly concerned for our societies. A noble cause to be sure, with definite scumbags mixed in; but also–a kind of flawed dialectic, prone to biases and Big Pharma Bucks.
Like so many Jewish thought leaders of his era, vilified and defamed because he dared to say that mothers can be psychotic, nutso shitbags who abuse children in unique ways, not described by the literature. Women who use children as a source of cashflow; women who had a child because they were trapped in na prison of religious glass cages; women who had children because they were too stupid to take birth control, and too morally weak to have an abortion–women aren’t always the most crisp of the pickles in the barrel by any stretch.
And that’s not even touching on his ideas about cultural taboos either.
So, thanks for bringing something to the table! Autism is at best, under-explored, and over narrated.
Re: Re: Re:13
I meant to say
Nothing is simply black and white at Big Pharma level–because African Americans have never wielded such horrific power, while white Jews and their white goy counterparts have, with one or two minor exceptions, run the drug trade for the last few millennia.
Re: Re: Re:14
[Citation needed]
Re: Re: Re:13
Bettleheim had zero concern for defamation, until it was he that was defamed.
[Citation needed]
Re: Re: Re:14
[Citation]
Re: Re: Re:15
Where?
Re: Re: Re:16
[Citation]
[Citation Needed]
[Citation Needed]
Re: Re: Re:17
Exactly. Your continuous lack of a link to any source doesn’t prove anything. You claim you’re not a troll, but your constant posting of “[source]” and nothing substantive only proves the opposite.
Re: Re: Re:18
I found the source for all of Phillip Rogs’s claims: https://i.imgur.com/kvXIhjn.png
Re: Re: Re:19
[Citation Needed]
That’s out of left field, but I am willing to hear the evidence–are you saying Bettleheim beat his kids? I would say “it was a different era,” though I estimate that 50-80% of Asia, and other regions–Russia, Africa,the M.E. etc.all beat their kids pretty soundly, and regularly.
Have his kids said that he abused them somewhere? Evidence–anywhere?
And even if so,there are many normal parental activities in the area of discipline that are merely arguable as abuse–not provable. Even fewer of such parents have the benefit of a trial of any kind, as the US-FVEYs model is CPS and Big Medicine driven b.s. about harm, positioning state agents against families over that issue.
So what’s your point?
My point is, a certain crowd HATES Bettleheim because he exposed the ritual child abuse of infant circumcision.
Re: Re: Re:14
BREAKING NEWS: I found Your Missing Foreskin–mystery solved!
Re: Re: Re:14
Rocky, are you not plugged in? Please read this–trigger warning! It describes MKULTRA on steroids:
During Joey’s first weeks with us we would watch absorbedly as this at once fragile-looking and imperious nine-year-old went about his mechanical existence. Entering the dining room, for example, he would string an imaginary wire from his “energy source”—an imaginary electric outlet—to the table. There he “insulated” himself with paper napkins and finally plugged himself in. Only then could Joey eat, for he firmly believed that the “current” ran his ingestive apparatus….
Joey’s delusion [that he was a machine] is not uncommon among schizophrenic children today. He wanted to be rid of his unbearable humanity, to become fully automatic….
Rocky, are you mad at the automatons?
Re: Re: Re:15
No, just madat you for further demonising one of the innocentchildrenabused by that quack simply because theywere different.
Re: Re: Re:16
Well, how was he a quack–any more or less than all of the others who weigh in on that topic? Supporting evidence? I didn’t insert him into this dicscussion though, team AC did.
I mean–my opinion on Bruno is not fixed in stone, though he did hit a few of the right nails on the head. And a certain well organized group of racist child abusers hate him for his views on ritual child abuse and circumcision, aka male genital mutilation.
So, IMHO, he did SOMETHING right there.
Re: Re: Re:17
So somebody that speaks out against child sexual abuse is OK with you even if they beat their children, including if they blame the kids for the beatings? o_O
Re: Re: Re:18
[Citation Needed]
That’s out of left field, but I am willing to hear the evidence–are you saying Bettleheim beat his kids? I would say “it was a different era,” though I estimate that 50-80% of Asia, and other regions–Russia, Africa,the M.E. etc.all beat their kids pretty soundly, and regularly.
Have his kids said that he abused them somewhere? Evidence–anywhere?
And even if so,there are many normal parental activities in the area of discipline that are merely arguable as abuse–not provable. Even fewer of such parents have the benefit of a trial of any kind, as the US-FVEYs model is CPS and Big Medicine driven b.s. about harm, positioning state agents against families over that issue.
So what’s your point?
My point is, a certain crowd HATES Bettleheim because he exposed the ritual child abuse of infant circumcision.
Re: Re: Re:13
Autism is, at best, under-explored and over narrated.
[Citation needed]
Re: Re: Re:14
[Citation]
Re: Re: Re:15
Where?
Re: Re: Re:10
I have ATS myself. I’d never attack someone with a genetic concern over genetics. I have BPT D and ADHDD as well.
That misspelling of ADHD? The same kind of error produced by your sockpuppet, proving my assertions and putting the lie to yours.
Re: Re: Re:11
Re:
Evidence, or go shoot yourself in the face. Liar. Seriously–I am for eugenics, when it comes to JTRIG sockpuppets like you.
Re: Re: Re:12
Evidence, or go shoot yourself in the face.
The evidence is not only all over this thread, but also in your numerous necroposts.
Liar.
Yes, you are. Glad you can finally admit it.
Seriously–I am for eugenics, when it comes to JTRIG sockpuppets like you.
And now you’re back to your only weapon of projection. How boring.
Re: Re: Re:13
Thanks, Amber!
1.Citation
Re: Re: Re:8
And they exhibit quite a limited education at that.
o_O Says the troll that can neither spell or punctuate correctly, unlike Autie and the ACs you’ve been picking on with your puppetmaster.
Re: Re: Re:9
Thanks, Amber!
Re: Re: Re:9
Seriously–“puppetmaster”? What paranoid gibberish, straight from the FBI’s own shoddy PR manual–“DONT BE A PUPPET!!!!”
Could you possibly be more transparent? Never mind…
Re: Re: Re:10
Could you possibly be more transparent? Never mind…
Right back atcha!
Re: Re: Re:11
[Citation]
Re: Re: Re:7
Knowing that a long string of text is deletable is a matter of comparing what you’ve copied to the original link, actually, but it honestly doesn’t surprise me that one of your wits wouldn’t know that basic fact.
Re: Re: Re:6
Your niggling and harassment–over a four day period–should indicate to rational humans exactly why AI–and you–should be killed off the internet.
Cofder sare themselves tools–they have no idea about “discussions” or “facts” or “discurse.
Rule based speakers, whose syntax is false/true have no place in human discussions, and I am specifically indicting you, as a “speaker,” though I am uncertain if you are human or AI.
Your overall ignorance, and failure to engage with topics at hand, and you r weird, innacurate attempts at “political correctness” indicate a bot. Not a human in any definition of what a human is.
Just you, stupid, sporadic, and targeting ideas that you are to dull to comprehend.
Re: Re: Re:7
Your niggling and harassment–over a four day period–should indicate to rational humans exactly why AI–and you–should be killed off the internet.
Says the individual that spent inhuman lengths of time editing Wikipedia over a five-year period, not even taking a break for holidays, and is attempting to do the same here to three or four (possibly more) different individuals. I didn’t want to have to spend my Independence Day dealing with you, but you’ve forced me to give up my holiday by voluntarily giving up yours.
Re: Re: Re:7
Your niggling and harassment–over a four day period–should indicate to rational humans exactly why AI–and you–should be killed off the internet.
I’m not the only one attacking your wrong-headed view of other commenters, and you are the very antithesis of rationality. Like the other AC, I didn’t want to spend any of my precious holiday time dealing with you, but that’s what you’ve forced me into with your niggling and harassing and necroposting, you shitty little hypocrite.
Re: Re: Re:8
Wow, this, from you
…is some kind of codependent sickness I have never encountered before online–ever.
I am “forcing” you to troll here? Just…wow. How’s that “American Freedumb” woorking out for you, lol. “Waaaaghhh! I am being forced to troll online, because WORDZ!!!!!! Aaaagh!”
The good news is that your gun rights are intact–maybe spend part of your “freedom celebration” using your gun to stop those voices in your head that are “forcing you” to troll here.
Re: Re: Re:9
I am “forcing” you to troll here?
Someone that posted 117 comments on a single webpage and necroposted on articles from 18 years ago has the cheek to accuse others of trolling? Strong in this one the projection is. Yes, hrrrm.
Re: Re: Re:10
Staying on top of a conversation and “trolling” are two different things. Since you are an obvious troll–by definition–others who happen upon this will find the necessary substance.
They will see that YOU are Amber Heard, and I am Johnny Depp, backed into a bathroom with the door shut, as you shit all over the bed, and fling pots and pans at the door.
Re: Re: Re:11
Staying on top of a conversation and “trolling” are two different things. Since you are an obvious troll–by definition–others who happen upon this will find the necessary substance.
More obvious projection. Staying on top of a conversation means checking back, not replying with shit each and every opportunity as you have.
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I am fortunate enough to be a human being…
That’s obvious. No other animal would be as viscious as you.
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Did you ever consider that you yourself are quite cruel–callous and rude?
Listen–no one know what an AC is–it could be AI. so–there you go–IMHO AI does not deserve my human empathy–unless its MY AI.
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Did you ever consider that you yourself are quite cruel–callous and rude?
Seriously, dude, just why are you so cruel about yourself?
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Thanks, Amber!
Only three days to go, before you prove me right–again!
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Because one individual is another, right? What a sad world yours must be, since it’s populated by so few people.
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Whether or not your split personality has multiples or not is up to the professionals to decide, not me.
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Strong in this one the projection is. Yes, hrrrm.
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Thanks, Amber!
As well they should be. The U.S. Supreme Court already addressed that very fact pattern in _Florida Star v. B.J.F., 491 U.S. 524 (1989), where the newspaper obtained the names from the papers put out for reporters in the press room.
The state court awarded damages for publishing victim names. This was initially upheld on appeal, _Florida Star v. B.J.F., 499 So.2d 883 (1DCA 1986), but reversed on cert to U.S. Supremes.
Not my case, so I am free to point, laugh, and jeer at the kind of judge that would not scold Carol Jean LoCicero and James B. Lake, from the firm of Thomas & LoCicero in Tampa, for bringing such a thing to court. That was a pretty poor judge, indeed, who granted a temporary injunction to the Sheriff’s Dept to bar dissemmination of the names of its deputies.
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“Pretty poor judges” seems to be an increasing problem in the US justice system. All the way up to, and including, SCOTUS.
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Yep. Can we talk about exactly why stereotypes about Catholics and Protestants exist now? Maybe form a safe space where its ok to talk about the cancer of organized religion, and how it infects secular law?
Oh–never mind–the SCOTUS did that last week.
It’s not poor judges, because these guys are all millionaires. It’s “religiously fanatical” judges to be more clear.
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Yep. Can we talk about exactly why stereotypes about trolls and their sockpuppets exist now? Maybe form a safe space where its OK to talk about the cancer of organized trolling and how it infects reasoned debate?
FTFY. YW.
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Thanks, Amber!
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Liezar-d.
FTFY.KMA.
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Ha ha! Oh, boy, Pluto! This moron’s projecting so far I can see his psyche on the moon!
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I missed that.
And I adore the Mickey insertion here, with Mickey as classic post-WW2 troll of western values.
However, you still fail to qualify your own projections—one minute a Mouse, the next a “psychologist” who has studied “people like [DBA Phillip Cross] for decades.”
Be honest, you are neither capable of such, nor are you able to do so, without caveats up the ass, and special clearances, all of which say ” yeah, but it’s a gurl profiler! ”
Then, scurries of FBI-et agency make work projects, and social engineering to validate “the gurls thesis,” it really works like that.
Seriously–and myopically, your reference to the moon indicates that you are a female, primarily focused on lunar cycles, unless….
Buffalo Bill would be dining upon your antithesis at this point.
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I’m not the one that posted as DBA Sigmund Freud, that was all you, liar.
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The thing about talking with you is that you’re almost like that guy who corners you at parties to complain about some particular of his life and makes you wonder if you could escape by gnawing your arm off or something. The only difference is that he’s actually a pleasure to deal with in comparison to you.
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Thank’s Amber!
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Ha ha! Oh, boy, Pluto! This moron’s projecting so far I can see his psyche on Mars!
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Thanks, Amber!
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Keeping in mind of course, that it was YOU who sidled up to ME way back up the thread, like a creeper with a pocket full of date rape pills.
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Strong in this one the projection is. Yes, hrrrm.
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Thanks, Amber!
Who’s to blame?
We’ll skip right over the “knife to a gun fight” stupidity.
The newspaper should be allowed to publish what it was given.
If the officer is harassed or hurt or killed as a result, the whole of the state’s attorney’s office is a conditional fault and the person releasing unredacted at full.
And the officer (or his survivors/trust) is this in a position to file against them.
At the height of the Gabby Petito co-combatant situation, all of these “feel-good” laws with the name of white, female victims attached ere spotlighted– are designed to get the girls by the crotch and are neocon fascism on its face–the beginning of the two-tiered society.
The constitution is fairly clear about rights, and what is and isn’t public, but these demagogues and religious right wingers–allied with police state mechanisms that manipulate public discourse always manage to make it about “the feelz” when it benefits the police state agenda’s.
It all started with gendered “hide the victim/accuser” rape shield laws, child protection in family courts, etc. aka, The Domestic Violence Industrial Complex (DVIC) and it’s he-said/she-said narratives. White knightery on acid.
As we saw with Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard, there are ALWAYS two sides to the story, and no amount of feel-good legislation should be allowed to keep that out of the public record.
And it cannot be missed that such laws all carry the name of an Aimee, a [Gabby](https://www.global-sepsis-alliance.org/news/2018/2/1/gabbys-law%5D, a Marsy, or other typical white female breeding stock names ending in the squeamish “ee” phoneme, which sounds a lot like “pee-pee,” “squeal” and “feelz.”
The police state that you write about was built on that exact gendered narrative, holding white females out as the prize to be won, via adopting the white knight position, protecting them at all cost, and above others, just like in the Titanic.
And, these absurdities will go “on and on” because, the deception is Titanic.
Squealz! As yet another dolt adopts the “open the door for the ladies” rubbish.
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Fuck off, Phillip.
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[Citation Needed]
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To repeat the AC: Fuck off, Phillip. They called it right.
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On the 4th of July, here, some idiot actually said this
A TOTAL understanding freedom fail combined with a serious codependency issue, and some internet addiction.
…”I’ma Proooouuuud to be an Amerikkan, where at least I know I’m free…”
The least, lol.Don’t let the commies spike your Koolaid with Manchurian fairy dust, and stay safe out there as all those cowboys start blasting caps for freedom, just after sundown.
Fireworks so’ `Merrican.
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Well, anonymous not so much any more.
West European. (+SA et AU)
Uk or puppet state.
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LOl
Please do tell! Extra points for pointing the puppet back at the puppet.
Right–even “puppet slaves” sometimes forget to fill in all the fields…
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Well, of course that AC and me are the same person, not. Not that I would expect a puppetmaster to know that the same badge can be used by multiple individuals when they insist that it’s not one individual behind multiple badges.
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AC’s breaking every troll rule in the book here–derailment being their favorite–and then harping about the proper protocols of badges, and nym’s etc. is beyond disingenuous, it’s insane–or a paid service of some government, NGO, or intel group.
Go get re-circumcised for the sake of humanity.
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Strong in this one the projection is. Hrrrm, yes.
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I forgot to thank you–as I have said many times on these forums, I am an actual person–an American exile, due to reasons mentioned above and elsewhere herein. You might even have banned me at some point, lol–one of two, out of six.
But my story is real, and like yourself, prone to being flagged for that exact reason–as we see, these despicable-lower-than-worms Anon’s are all .mil, .intel, .ADL, .ngo, etc.
You can chase down that story herein, but its a time waster–as you know, this is how internet works–any defense of freedom, truth, or equality is met by AC’s who want “extra rights and privileges” that always amount to them, manipulating each and every dialogue, net result
It’s all a ruse for the benefit of the 1% regardless of their stated/implied religion and culture.
So, be nice with the data I have given you–again, a real person here, non-affilliated with those above in any way.
And: I will soon adopt your “West European” term, for shits and giggles–it’s fairly accurate along the lines of Bilderberg/NWO/Klaus Schwab/George Soros type of thinking.
Like “East Berlin/West Berlin” it’s all them, on both sides choking people out with illegal headlocks.
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…as I have said many times on these forums, I am an actual person…
Links.
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Um, I fail to see why the Techdirt forums are so friendly to amonymous cowards, “AC’s” most of who are Zionists from radical racist sects and cults of religion.
But hey–that’s TD’s “thing,” right?
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I fail to see why the Techdirt forums are so friendly to ACs…
Because unlike you, we don’t pollute the comments sections with pro-CCP trash.
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Looks more like something you and your boyfriend cooked up to try and get someone to “out” themselves as being in the region you’ve chosen. Another classic from Trolling 101.
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Uh…
🍿 🍺 🍕 🪑
It’s amazing what Techdirts favorite commenters censor here. Look at what has been deleted–there is a reason that rational and science-based people do not come here anymore.
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And that reason is you.
Amazon
Or ebay. Just buy a CD/DVD burner. Nearly every independent film and music label does this now. 🤦♂️
You might also have noticed that I took the time to flag that CD burner idiot too–no AC was at bat, nor on deck fighting actual spam. They are simply too transparent, and not-actually-involved.