Intel Threatens To Use The DMCA Against Anyone Who Uses The HDCP Crack

from the that'll-win-them-over dept

Well, isn’t this nice? Intel, who recently confirmed that the HDCP master key was, in fact, leaked, has also decided that it’s going to threaten to sue anyone who makes use of it, under the DMCA’s anti-circumvention clause. The last gasp effort of those who still want to believe in DRM: after it’s cracked, they’ll wave the DMCA at you. Perhaps rather than falling back on DMCA threats, Intel could spend its efforts explaining to Hollywood why DRM is a mistake.

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cc (profile) says:

Intel, a provider of DRM technology, wouldn’t try to convince Hollywood that DRM is a bad idea. I’m sure Intel are more than happy to provide Hollywood with rope to hang themselves, as long as they get paid.

Intel is making DMCA threats to cover its own ass, because its technology has failed at its intended purpose. Of course they saw this coming since the beginning, and this is just to make sure Hollywood doesn’t hold them responsible in any way. Standard procedure, I’d say.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Is circumventing the protection on your TV.

Blurays use a different encryption that already broken and can be copied freely, the HDCP is just for live streams and such.

But as many have pointed out, is easier to use the own equipment HDCP to do copying, so HDCP broken was not that important to many. It is more of a statement, because in practice it didn’t work anyways.

How else would Intel fool the suckers?

Richard (profile) says:

Re: Re: Eric

Watching BluRay movies on a Mac or Linux box would be a regular use I expect.
Sadly it’s not even a possible use this is a different part of the scheme. To play a disc on Linux you need to crack the AACS encryption on the disc itself.

What this enables you to do is to make a box that will take HDCP encrypted data from a blu ray player and put that into plain digital video format – allowing it to be recorded on an HD recorder.

Only one person in the world needs to have such a device to enable every Blu-ray that is released to be reformatted in unprotected form and copied across either the internet or sneakernet.

Jason (profile) says:

Re: Re: Eric

Yep. Finally I can now think about getting a blu-ray drive for my DVR, since I’ll finally be able to use it.

NOW that DRM is broken I might finally begin to buy blu-ray discs. Its ironic, but its true. DRM is a disaster and I will not support any product that has unbroken DRM. It now appears that blu-ray (from my perspective) is ok to use.

Intel’s being idiotic in its desire to now use the courts to, in my case at least, continue to make me not want to buy blu-ray discs…..

AJB says:

Re: Re: Re: Eric

The picture quality increase is just not that much better than an upscaled DVD. I still maintain that BluRay is the biggest fraud perpetrated on the American buying public. They used their monopoly power to shut down their competitors, then charged exorbitant prices for their product (almost triple for the discs and five to ten times for the player). Where was the Congress when this anti-competitive behavior was being done? Why were the movie studios able to restrict content to just one format? The biggest loser is the consumer and the government did NOTHING to protect their interest.

fogbugzd (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Taxing media has never done anything except take money from the wrong people and give it to the wrong people.

Most pirated movies go to hard disk, smartphones, iPads, and other devices. Downloadedd movies rarely make it to blueray. You could try taxing all the things it does go to, but a couple of years from now it would be going somewhere else we never thought of. Meanwhile everyone owning a smartphone or hard drive would be paying the tax and piracy would continue unabated.

Marius (profile) says:

No longer efficient

As far as I know DMCA only applies to protection methods that are “effective”:

Contracting Parties shall provide adequate legal protection
and effective legal remedies against the circumvention
of effective technological measures that are used
by authors in connection with the exercise of their
rights under this Treaty or the Berne Convention and
that restrict acts, in respect of their works, which are
not authorized by the authors concerned or permitted
by law.

How effective is a protection if everyone knows how to decrypt it?

Jim (user link) says:

I'd be shocked if they didn't

Intel gets license fees for each OEM and for each device that uses HDCP. Hollywood will surely also continue to mandate HDCP. That means companies like Samsung and Toshiba MUST get a license from Intel if they are going be sure their devices can play Hollywood movies. If the folks at Intel are smart (and I think they are), they’re already exploiting that monopoly power to increase profits in other areas.

Of course Intel will sue to make sure everyone (or at least all those that can be sued) will continue to be forced to use the Intel-controlled standard and continue to pay Intel license fees. As long as they can do that, whether or not that standard has been cracked is irrelevant to Intel.

Supposed you had a business plan that relied on cracking HDCP. Do you think any VC would fund it knowing that Intel’s legal department would come down on you like a duck on a June bug? Not likely.

pegr says:

Not simple (but not tough)

Since decrypting at the wire level gets you an uncompressed digital stream, any “circumvention device” (other than something you plug directly into a monitor) will have to compress the stream before handing it off to a recording device. This is something a tad more complex than just a tap.

On the other hand, if some asian company makes a magic box that just lets you connect your blue-ray to any monitor, people will not understand why that is so “bad”, and that will make our case even better to “joe-six-pack”.

Intel will not be the heavy. They have no standing. Anything they say now is to cover their behinds. They are speaking to their customers, not us.

The only reason Intel is speaking now is because their customers are now “deer-in-the-headlights”. Somebody had to say sumptin!

(As you sow, so shall you reap!)

Richard (profile) says:

Re: Not simple (but not tough)

A standalone HD recorder or video grab card should be capable of compressing raw HD video. After all my $300 HD camcorder does it.

The most likely scenario is a monitor that has HDMI outputs for daisy chaining. It is cheaper if that output doesn’t do HDCP – but just sends out unencrypted HDMI data (like my camcorder does).

Having said that – why are we bothering to even discuss this in a world where you can get hold of Slysofts anyDVD – HD software with a couple of mouse clicks?

Jimr (profile) says:

software emulation WILL be released.

Once a software emulation of the process IS released to the internet it WILL be impossible to put the genie back in the bottle.
Most likely it will be written/release from some part of the globe where the DMCA and it’s enforcement will be totally useless. Beside which the first adopters of this knowledge do not really care or worry about any stupid laws and their consequences.

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