What has happened to Verizon? Their customer service has gone south and it seems they are either oblivious to it or okay with it....neither of which is acceptable to customers. I am astonished to see what has happened.
NBC, like other content providers, want to sell you their product directly and force you into paying them a monthly fee. YouTube TV is an attractive alternative to cable unless you can no longer get full content. "Free" TV is gone, now the battle is to maximize what they can charge.
Pretty clearly a bald-faced attempt to monopolize the repair. The automakers of course are up to exactly the same thing only worse. They are collecting reams of data every day (15 GB worth) from your vehicle and uploading it to their servers where they can and are selling it for a lot of money. You cannot opt-out and they barely inform you that they are doing it. That fact is that they are. They claim that you don't own the data and have no rights to any of it. Good luck trying to get a vehicle fixed anywhere but a dealership in the very near future. Depending on your model, that future is already here. They spent 50 million dollars trying to defeat a bill in Massachusetts which would require them to open it up for independent shops. They lost about 75 to 25. The problem has also crept into parts, but they just lost a court challenge on embedded chips.
Hmmm. I live in a somewhat rural area and we have several co-ops that provided telephone and internet. I am a customer of one of them. In every case, they are more innovative and quicker to offer improved technologies.....at a lower price than the big guys. The ONLY way to lower prices is to increase competition from smaller players who cannot be gobbled up by the big guys, and co-ops are the way to go because they are owned by the subscribers.
Yes. Fact-checkers are biased in clever ways and tell all kinds of lies under the guise of setting the record straight. They are not to be trusted any more than any other opinions and you should always do your own research if possible. That being said, there is no honest or legal way for government to regulate them. The government should stay out of the news and opinion business altogether and trust that people are not so stupid that they can't figure it out.
Most people get upset at the thought of a tracking device in their vaccine but give little or no thought to how much their smart tv or motor vehicle are tracking their every move. Cars might be the worst, but yet few people even know that they are providing tons of free data that the car companies are selling. You don't need the internet to be tracked in your car.
Hmmmm. I wonder what the car companies will have to say on this subject. They "sell" you a vehicle, but you don't own the digital content that it produces. They don't even have to disclose what content they are gathering or who they are selling it to. You cannot opt out.
Slightly different, but somewhat comparable.
We believe what we want to believe and filter out most of the information that could be considered to change our minds. This is a spot-on example of how the viewpoint of the New York Times is as likely to be distorted as my own.
The auto industry has been very aggressive in developing their ability to grab as much consumer data as they can because they can monetize it. They are interested in safety only as far as it meets their needs, but data....the more they get, the better they like it.
I doubt this will see light of day because it looks like TechDirt has the ability to filter out anything they don't like. I made a valid comment and a couple commenters were able to take a swipe at me, but TechDirt does not run my reply. Nice.
The more I read about the Foxconn deal from biased reporters, the more I distrust everything I read. First of all, it was the Governor (Scott Walker) and his economic development agency who initiated this deal and made the agreement. Had it worked, it would have been a home run, but in the changing sands of high-tech, it was perhaps inevitable that it would fail. Trump and Ryan were eye candy in this deal, but I get the reasons for wanting to hang it on them. Taxpayers have paid ZERO of the incentive because parameters were not met. A couple hundred million was spent on site development and construction in a booming area and the odds that it will end up working are pretty good. The obituary on the Foxconn deal was written on day 1 and has been used continually as a hammer to pound on Trump, Ryan and Walker. In fact, it helped push Walker out of office in favor of a guy who is soon to be recalled based on incompetence. Give this story another year and it will look a lot different, but we won't hear apologies from Bode or any of the other ill-informed parrots.
This is exactly in the center of the target. I would quibble about your statement that "Right To Repair" started with John Deere. In fact, that started with the independent auto repair shops more than a decade ago. In fact, it was called "Right to Repair" at the time.
Just use Apple Numbers app instead of Excel. I finally got away from Microsoft after 30 years and I just chuckle at some of the bullshit they made me do that I did not want to do.
You are correct, but the battle has changed. You are free to fix your stuff all you want, but the manufacturers still control access to the data that is need to do the repair. If you were able to obtain the necessary access to the data, you would be able to do your own repair, but manufacturers are encrypting the info or otherwise preventing you from getting it under the guise of data security, personal privacy, or any other false pretense that they can use to keep competition away.
Right To Repair has been around a lot longer than 5 years. Nearly 20 years ago, independent auto repair fought this battle and won. Independent repair shops maintained their right to fix their customer's vehicles. Unfortunately, no one had the ability to foresee the changes in how data is captured, transmitted, and stored by the vehicle manufacturers. We are back at it right now and trying to get a law passed in Massachusetts. It is on the ballot this fall. Given the penchant of manufacturers to want a monopoly, this battle will never truly be won, but it needs to be fought.
I love that everyone gets all excited about cell phone tracking when in fact, your vehicle is also tracking your every movement, grabbing your address book, phone calls, texts, and every other every bit of personal data they can get so it can be sold. No disclosure. No opt-out. No regulation.
What has happened
What has happened to Verizon? Their customer service has gone south and it seems they are either oblivious to it or okay with it....neither of which is acceptable to customers. I am astonished to see what has happened.
Dispute
NBC, like other content providers, want to sell you their product directly and force you into paying them a monthly fee. YouTube TV is an attractive alternative to cable unless you can no longer get full content. "Free" TV is gone, now the battle is to maximize what they can charge.
Pretty clearly a bald-faced attempt to monopolize the repair. The automakers of course are up to exactly the same thing only worse. They are collecting reams of data every day (15 GB worth) from your vehicle and uploading it to their servers where they can and are selling it for a lot of money. You cannot opt-out and they barely inform you that they are doing it. That fact is that they are. They claim that you don't own the data and have no rights to any of it. Good luck trying to get a vehicle fixed anywhere but a dealership in the very near future. Depending on your model, that future is already here. They spent 50 million dollars trying to defeat a bill in Massachusetts which would require them to open it up for independent shops. They lost about 75 to 25. The problem has also crept into parts, but they just lost a court challenge on embedded chips.
Hmmm. I live in a somewhat rural area and we have several co-ops that provided telephone and internet. I am a customer of one of them. In every case, they are more innovative and quicker to offer improved technologies.....at a lower price than the big guys. The ONLY way to lower prices is to increase competition from smaller players who cannot be gobbled up by the big guys, and co-ops are the way to go because they are owned by the subscribers.
Fact-checkers are biased
Yes. Fact-checkers are biased in clever ways and tell all kinds of lies under the guise of setting the record straight. They are not to be trusted any more than any other opinions and you should always do your own research if possible. That being said, there is no honest or legal way for government to regulate them. The government should stay out of the news and opinion business altogether and trust that people are not so stupid that they can't figure it out.
Tip Of The Iceberg
Most people get upset at the thought of a tracking device in their vaccine but give little or no thought to how much their smart tv or motor vehicle are tracking their every move. Cars might be the worst, but yet few people even know that they are providing tons of free data that the car companies are selling. You don't need the internet to be tracked in your car.
This could have consequences beyond Apple. How about Netflix? Do we "buy" HBO?
Hmmmm. I wonder what the car companies will have to say on this subject. They "sell" you a vehicle, but you don't own the digital content that it produces. They don't even have to disclose what content they are gathering or who they are selling it to. You cannot opt out.
Slightly different, but somewhat comparable.
Perspective
We believe what we want to believe and filter out most of the information that could be considered to change our minds. This is a spot-on example of how the viewpoint of the New York Times is as likely to be distorted as my own.
Data Grab
The auto industry has been very aggressive in developing their ability to grab as much consumer data as they can because they can monetize it. They are interested in safety only as far as it meets their needs, but data....the more they get, the better they like it.
Censoring Comments
I doubt this will see light of day because it looks like TechDirt has the ability to filter out anything they don't like. I made a valid comment and a couple commenters were able to take a swipe at me, but TechDirt does not run my reply. Nice.
Re: Re: This is sloppy work
Are you under the illusion that I am a Trump supporter?
Re: Re: This is sloppy work
I think I know a tad more about this deal than you do so maybe you should have read my comments.
This is sloppy work
The more I read about the Foxconn deal from biased reporters, the more I distrust everything I read. First of all, it was the Governor (Scott Walker) and his economic development agency who initiated this deal and made the agreement. Had it worked, it would have been a home run, but in the changing sands of high-tech, it was perhaps inevitable that it would fail. Trump and Ryan were eye candy in this deal, but I get the reasons for wanting to hang it on them. Taxpayers have paid ZERO of the incentive because parameters were not met. A couple hundred million was spent on site development and construction in a booming area and the odds that it will end up working are pretty good. The obituary on the Foxconn deal was written on day 1 and has been used continually as a hammer to pound on Trump, Ryan and Walker. In fact, it helped push Walker out of office in favor of a guy who is soon to be recalled based on incompetence. Give this story another year and it will look a lot different, but we won't hear apologies from Bode or any of the other ill-informed parrots.
Spot On
This is exactly in the center of the target. I would quibble about your statement that "Right To Repair" started with John Deere. In fact, that started with the independent auto repair shops more than a decade ago. In fact, it was called "Right to Repair" at the time.
Re: Microsoft does not have customers.
I have succeeded using Apple Numbers in place of Excel and it works like a charm.
Just use Apple Numbers app instead of Excel. I finally got away from Microsoft after 30 years and I just chuckle at some of the bullshit they made me do that I did not want to do.
Re: Magnuson Moss anyone?
You are correct, but the battle has changed. You are free to fix your stuff all you want, but the manufacturers still control access to the data that is need to do the repair. If you were able to obtain the necessary access to the data, you would be able to do your own repair, but manufacturers are encrypting the info or otherwise preventing you from getting it under the guise of data security, personal privacy, or any other false pretense that they can use to keep competition away.
Not New
Right To Repair has been around a lot longer than 5 years. Nearly 20 years ago, independent auto repair fought this battle and won. Independent repair shops maintained their right to fix their customer's vehicles. Unfortunately, no one had the ability to foresee the changes in how data is captured, transmitted, and stored by the vehicle manufacturers. We are back at it right now and trying to get a law passed in Massachusetts. It is on the ballot this fall. Given the penchant of manufacturers to want a monopoly, this battle will never truly be won, but it needs to be fought.
Tracking
I love that everyone gets all excited about cell phone tracking when in fact, your vehicle is also tracking your every movement, grabbing your address book, phone calls, texts, and every other every bit of personal data they can get so it can be sold. No disclosure. No opt-out. No regulation.