If you're in the UK you might consider small claims court. I think it cost £25 - sometimes just the threat of that will make a company suddenly roll over, esp if sent by solicitor - or find a legal looking letter online.
'And what will happen? Elite: Dangerous will be released, people will play it online for a few years, maybe a decade if they're lucky, then the servers will be shut down and the game will join all the other discontinued MMORPGs'
Actually, not so (I'm pissed about the always online DRM and not buying it for that reason), but David Braben has said that if the servers close down a snapshot of the games universe will be taken and released to the public, so the game will continue.
So, if true, how are they gonna keep the servers open? there's no monthly subscription and 70% of those interested in the game will have already paid.
The sudden U turn about offline mode will have those who were considering buying the game extremely wary (I already decided not to - I don't support duplicity), the above information will only scare off those even slightly interested - who's going to buy a game that might not be playable in two months?
If I had brought the app and they accused me of being a pirate, I would demand my money back, and if they refused I would take them into Small Claims Court (UK), and probably sue for libel.
Let a company take the piss and you deserve everything you get.
'I realize that the UK has different notions of free speech than the US, but just from a moral perspective, as long as Apple isn't saying anything false, what business does any judge have regulating what information they can convey on their own website?'
Erm, they brought their 'copy' bullshit before the judge to judge whether they were right, he made his judgement and judged against them.
New Zealand Judges are finally making noises that the raid of megaupload dude might have been illegal, our own British Home sec has denied extradition of Gary mckinnon, so I think that, slowly, oh so painfully slowly, the non American governments across the world are finally waking up to the fact that their publics (who they're supposed to be the servant of), are getting pissed off at them rolling over whenever America says... anything.
Hadopi (French three strikes) going nowhere fast, maybe stopped. Here in the UK the three strikes threat is still not up and running (and judges are saying IP address not enough to prove wrongdoing).
When an animal is near death is when it's at its most dangerous - can you hear the death rattle?
Farewell gatekeepers, hope you enjoyed the Coke & Champagne lifestyle, the free ride is coming to an end.
I wouldn't worry too much Mike, the rest of the world is finally growing tired of Hollywoods... I mean the US governments demands on copyright enforments. The French Hadopi is dying, the Canadians are introducing fair rights, our own UK Digital Economy Act hasn't even started yet and there are talks about defanging it, and it seems your own ISPs are questioning the six strikes plan.
Hollywood is a dying beast, animals are always at their most dangerous when mortally wounded, music, art and storytelling are finally returning to the hands of people who will find it pays, just not the obscene amounts they expect for it now.
Time to start sharing the wealth, 2/3rds of the planet are still going hungry people!
You may not have noticed, but hatred of all America's policies (extradition, Hollywood, illegal wars, bankers) is now a tidal wave of feeling sweeping across the globe. The world thought Obama was going to change things, bring the US back from the brink, redistribute the wealth and then get assassinated, but the puppet masters are winning...
I'm pretty sure your founding fathers would be turning in their graves for how you've allowed the destruction of their 'Declaration of Independence'.
Some dude here in the UK tried the same thing, got laughed out of court, but it did mean I checked out the advert for the phone, and it basically is an ad for Siri, as in she acts like a personal secretary and understands the questions you ask it. As far as I'm concerned that's not just stretching the truth, it's bending it 90 degree's to reality.
Yet it's still playing on British TVs, even tho' it's patently a lie.
Has fallen into the trap of thinking they're right and that the little people they govern should just shut the fuck up. It's how our British government works.
Re: Kickstarter Backer
If you're in the UK you might consider small claims court. I think it cost £25 - sometimes just the threat of that will make a company suddenly roll over, esp if sent by solicitor - or find a legal looking letter online.
Re:
'And what will happen? Elite: Dangerous will be released, people will play it online for a few years, maybe a decade if they're lucky, then the servers will be shut down and the game will join all the other discontinued MMORPGs'
Actually, not so (I'm pissed about the always online DRM and not buying it for that reason), but David Braben has said that if the servers close down a snapshot of the games universe will be taken and released to the public, so the game will continue.
Re: Not exactly true
Elite: Frontier offered the entire galaxy and landing on planets on 3 720KB floppy disks.
Frontier Developments in the red...
http://www.iii.co.uk/stockmarketwire/190309/frontier-developments-red-revenues-fall?context=LSE:FDEV
So, if true, how are they gonna keep the servers open? there's no monthly subscription and 70% of those interested in the game will have already paid.
The sudden U turn about offline mode will have those who were considering buying the game extremely wary (I already decided not to - I don't support duplicity), the above information will only scare off those even slightly interested - who's going to buy a game that might not be playable in two months?
Hey America, the rest of the world just called, go fuck yourself!
The NSA murdered Aaron Swartz
The illuminati are winning... Crap, my computer just crashed - synchronicity! Singularity! Sincerity! Fnord!
If
If I had brought the app and they accused me of being a pirate, I would demand my money back, and if they refused I would take them into Small Claims Court (UK), and probably sue for libel.
Let a company take the piss and you deserve everything you get.
'...Twitter and Facebook work, the opportunity for disseminating false information and/or pictures is great'
completely differently to how governments work then? /s
'I realize that the UK has different notions of free speech than the US, but just from a moral perspective, as long as Apple isn't saying anything false, what business does any judge have regulating what information they can convey on their own website?'
Erm, they brought their 'copy' bullshit before the judge to judge whether they were right, he made his judgement and judged against them.
Simples.
A fair retrial is necessary
New Zealand Judges are finally making noises that the raid of megaupload dude might have been illegal, our own British Home sec has denied extradition of Gary mckinnon, so I think that, slowly, oh so painfully slowly, the non American governments across the world are finally waking up to the fact that their publics (who they're supposed to be the servant of), are getting pissed off at them rolling over whenever America says... anything.
Hadopi (French three strikes) going nowhere fast, maybe stopped. Here in the UK the three strikes threat is still not up and running (and judges are saying IP address not enough to prove wrongdoing).
When an animal is near death is when it's at its most dangerous - can you hear the death rattle?
Farewell gatekeepers, hope you enjoyed the Coke & Champagne lifestyle, the free ride is coming to an end.
I wouldn't worry too much Mike, the rest of the world is finally growing tired of Hollywoods... I mean the US governments demands on copyright enforments. The French Hadopi is dying, the Canadians are introducing fair rights, our own UK Digital Economy Act hasn't even started yet and there are talks about defanging it, and it seems your own ISPs are questioning the six strikes plan.
Hollywood is a dying beast, animals are always at their most dangerous when mortally wounded, music, art and storytelling are finally returning to the hands of people who will find it pays, just not the obscene amounts they expect for it now.
Time to start sharing the wealth, 2/3rds of the planet are still going hungry people!
You may not have noticed, but hatred of all America's policies (extradition, Hollywood, illegal wars, bankers) is now a tidal wave of feeling sweeping across the globe. The world thought Obama was going to change things, bring the US back from the brink, redistribute the wealth and then get assassinated, but the puppet masters are winning...
I'm pretty sure your founding fathers would be turning in their graves for how you've allowed the destruction of their 'Declaration of Independence'.
Why is this guy not in prison?
Some dude here in the UK tried the same thing, got laughed out of court, but it did mean I checked out the advert for the phone, and it basically is an ad for Siri, as in she acts like a personal secretary and understands the questions you ask it. As far as I'm concerned that's not just stretching the truth, it's bending it 90 degree's to reality.
Yet it's still playing on British TVs, even tho' it's patently a lie.
Someone earlier said...
lawyers are vicious bloodsucking scum, who'll eat their mother if given a chance.
QFT
America
Murders yet another non American - way to go...
Title
I'd have renamed the camp 'Rivendale' and written a polite 'fuck you' reply back.
The American government
Has fallen into the trap of thinking they're right and that the little people they govern should just shut the fuck up. It's how our British government works.
'companies seek to use all the advantages of digital media, while trying to impose all the disadvantages of physical media'
Tru dat!
T'internet
The Internet is like pandora's box to the governments of the world (all of them), they're desperately trying to close it down.