"It will just drive cyberlockers etc. out of the US and they will use non US servers."
This has of course already happened. From what I've seen, most of the peeps using those types of sites are doing so because it's easy.. not because they don't have alternatives, you have to spend a bit more time on the front end, but it's easy to find these alternatives...
As far as real Pirates...most of your hard core pirates are already "virtually" outside of the U.S. and operating invitation only dark nets. Even if the AA's .... feds .... or whoever get in, nothing they can really do, they lobby to shut them down and they pop up somewhere else.... if there is demand their will be product, you can't turn off human nature...
Reality is...It's all theater, politicians and judges love it...It's very easy for politicians and judges to give big media the impression that they are actually doing something by creating and enforcing one sided laws so media continues contributing money to elections, getting them re-elected so they can create and enforce more one sided laws, getting more money, get elected again.. round and round we go...
Truth is;
PRO-IP lost the war the day they handed over the ability to copy digital data to the consumer.
ANTI-IP lost the war the first time they allowed someone to own an idea.
There wont be any winners in this.
Would it not be a better idea to patent it, and offer up the license for free? That way, someone else couldn't steal his idea!!
"Yeah we would be further on"
I don't know ....IMO... People tend to get lazy in the absence of adversity... it's typically only when challenged, that we seem to excel.
It's a paradox if you think about it.. we wouldn't be where we are today, technology wise, without groups like the AA's, yet these groups are the ones trying to hold back the technology.... and in holding back the technology, they are causing the people to create new technologies to bypass these attempts to hold us back... round and round we go.. advancing technology at ever increasing speeds........
They keep this crap up, were going to be transferring files through "mind melding" pretty soon..... tinfoil hat anyone?
I think were going to put you in the "against" column....
This just in..... VPN businesses in China expect huge first quarter growth as a sudden surge in Dutch orders is expected....
I love the smell of Troll ego boiling in the morning ..... it smells like... victory...
"But you are only censoring to yourself."
Exactly! I was trying to suggest that people have the ability to censor what they deem inappropriate, we don't need the government to do so.
"This is not a censoring program. This program merely gives you information from which you can make an informed choice."
I was using the term in reference to the part of the definition that states ": a person who supervises conduct and morals: as a : an official who examines materials (as publications or films) for objectionable matter "
Where in, the "official" is a program, and you are using said program to determine "objectionable matter"
"This program merely gives you information from which you can make an informed choice."
This program gives you the ability to censor products of your choice. Call it what you will, but if you write an app called "Boycott SOPA", and you use it to scan for objectionable materials (products) from a company that don't share your views, then by definition, your are using it to censor.
Not sure if my post qualifies, but your timing was good....
I find it both funny and sad that we (the people) have the ability to create an effective censoring program when we want to avoid something, but the government, with all it's resources, can't seem to do so without looking like idiots or trampling our rights....
I guess what I was trying to say was that their (The publishers) money would have been better spent hiring a marketing firm to increase business, not a law firm to sue potential customers....
So they found their end from the very legal system they were trying to use to extort money from their victims. Fitting...
I wonder if they had used all that money and effort to service the under served customers (Pirates), if we would not be talking about them being the next big thing instead of circling the bowl?
"the satellite can just be knocked down by a well aimed shot (which probably costs a fraction of what the satellite did) by any government that decides that the satellite is a "rogue satellite"."
I think it's a little harder to knock down a satellite than that. Depending on the distance from the earth and what type of orbit it's in such as geosynchronous, they could be moving upwards of 15,000 MPH or even faster. It can be done, but it's super expensive and extremely difficult to do undetected.... besides... you would not want to be the first government to throw that stone....
I disagree. If a satellite is broadcasting a signal, and I can retrieve and decode that signal from the privacy of my own home, then I should be able to do so. If they don't want me to decode and use the signal, stop broadcasting it at me.
I know...It's not like stealing power or water, they can't just "turn it off", but who's problem is that?
"Example: Artist cooperatives. Rather than just letting anyone upload whatever to a website, I could see a situation where artists form cooperatives to operate a website shared only by those artists, under a combined contract with various liability clauses and such. I could picture companies writing and selling software to support these types of cooperatives."
LOL. Perfect description of a "dark net" The problem is, you want to decide which ones are legal and which ones are not. Doesn't work that way, and it never will... the technology is out, you cant put it back in the bottle.. you can pass laws making millions of people criminals while destroying the best tool for sharing information ever created.... but you still can't unring the bell.... what you can do however is create a culture of people that fucking hate big business and wrap entire movements around destroying it, even if it is self destructive of them.... but you guys really don's seem to care about any of that... I truly don't understand this mentality....
1. Upload legal video.
2. Convince people to embed legal video.
3. Swap out legal with Illegal video.
4. Send extortion letter threatening jail time...
5. ?????
6. Profit!
"The ridiculous over-punishment"
After reading the first four words, I have decided that Mike is not apologizing for any piracy. He appears to be saying that the perp was "over-punished". Notice he said "over". That would suggest that Mike thinks he should be punished, but that his punishment should be somewhat less. This does not fit the "pirate apologist" shill attack criteria. Please proceed to direct insulting and personal attacks... that is all.....
SOPA/PIPA is already obsolete. Below is an example of how anw why. This is one of hundreds of tools on the way. I'm sure they will make these workarounds illegal, but unless we plan on declaring war on Sweden, not much anyone can do but stomp their feet...
Well Techdirt, you win... I finally signed in lol. We haven't always seen eye to eye on everything, but in this we agree 100%. You have my support, fight the good fight.