Congrats, Recording Industry: You May Now Have Killed Seeqpod Too

Failures

from the shut-'em-down dept

The record labels’ animosity towards Seeqpod has never made much sense. Seeqpod is a basic search engine that seeks out music files online. Some of these files are, undoubtedly, unauthorized copies, but Seeqpod has always been focused on streaming the music rather than letting you download the tracks. Seeqpod, itself, has no way of knowing whether the tracks are illegal or not, just as a search on Google using “filetype:mp3” doesn’t distinguish between illegal and legal files. Yet, of course, the major record labels have decided that there can be no innovation without the record labels owning a piece of it, and so both Warner Music and EMI (two labels, by the way that have been the loudest in insisting that they’ve changed and are no longer anti-innovation) sued Seeqpod for daring to run a search engine.

And, now, thanks to mounting legal bills, the company has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, and is cutting off some developers who were using its API. It seems like yet another example of the major record labels stamping out innovation through lawsuits. Of course, others will rise in their place (most likely in foreign countries where it’s harder for the labels to sue). But, it’s pretty sad that the labels have been so successful in using questionable lawsuits to make sure that no one can innovate without their stamp of approval.

Filed Under: bankruptcy, innovation, lawsuits, music
Companies: emi, seeqpod, warner music

Universal, YouTube Collaboration All Depends On Execution… And Community

Overhype

from the give-them-the-benefit-of-the-doubt? dept

A bunch of different sources are reporting on a “near deal” between Universal Music and YouTube to create a special stand-alone music video site, sort of like a “Hulu for music.” As has been widely reported, all of the major record labels have been in talks to try to come up with new deals with YouTube — with most of the earlier focus concerning how to deal with user-uploaded clips that contained music. Famously, Warner Music pulled out of discussions, when it was angry about the terms of the deal. Sony Music, however, recently renewed their deal. The Universal Music deal would be something much larger — focusing more on content put on an entirely new site by the label itself. The other major labels have been offered the option of joining in as well.

Of course, no deal is definite, and with all of these things, the devil is in the details. The News.com report notes that the “benefits” that each party brings to the table is that Universal would bring the music, while YouTube/Google would bring the technology. If that’s really all there is to it, then it’s missing the point of YouTube. The value has never been in the technology itself — which isn’t even as good as some others’, and not all that hard to replicate. The value in YouTube has always been the community. Many people now go to YouTube first to find any kind of video they’re looking for — and there’s a large and growing community of folks who use YouTube to communicate with others. Creating an entire site to get rid of the riffraff just for the sake of selling higher CPM ads may sound good at first, but if it does so in a way that diminishes the value of the community, it may limit the usefulness or success of the site. In fact, at just about the same time that news of this possible deal was leaking, news was breaking that PluggedIn, a site that tried to be a “Hulu for music” and apparently had wonderful technology, was shutting down.

Filed Under: music videos
Companies: google, hulu, sony music, universal music, warner music, youtube

MTV Supposedly Boycotting Warner Music Artists In Rock Band

Culture

from the nice-work,-Warner! dept

A bunch of folks have sent in an article from the latest issue of Wired Magazine about Warner Music’s fight with the publishers of music video games, Rock Band and Guitar Hero. To be honest, the article doesn’t cover much more ground than stories from last year, when Warner Music’s Edgar Bronfman Jr. first demanded more money from the game publishers. But, it does include one juicy tidbit. After reposting Bronfman’s silly quote demanding more money:

“In response, Rock Band publisher MTV Games is now boycotting Warner artists, according to a source close to the negotiations.”

This is yet another example (in an increasingly long line) of how Warner Music’s recent actions have done plenty to harm its artists. You may recall that a similarly ridiculous whine from Warner Music execs that YouTube wasn’t paying enough money resulted in YouTube pulling all Warner Music videos from the site, pissing off many Warner Music artists. Other reports have noted that if musicians were blocked from getting their music in these video games, they might look to move to other labels as well.

And, of course, Warner Music’s fight with the video game publishers is doubly stupid. Reports have shown that having your music in one of those games greatly increases sales of the music itself. So… the end result? Pissed off musicians who get less people hearing and interacting with and buying the music. It’s amazing that Warner stays in business at all, with management foresight like that.

Filed Under: boycott, guitar hero, music, rock band, video games
Companies: warner music

Activision CEO Suggests Record Labels Should Be Paying To Get In Video Games

Say That Again

from the this-ought-to-be-fun dept

Remember a couple months ago, when Warner Music’s Edgar Bronfman complained that the makers of video games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band should be paying more for the music they used? He claimed, incorrectly, that the games were “entirely dependent” on the record labels’ content. That was wrong, and totally downplayed the fact that the video games were actually adding value to the music. Now it appears that the maker of Guitar Hero, Activision, is hitting back. The company’s CEO is pointing out how much being in those games has helped bands, suggesting that its really the record labels that are getting too good of a deal:

“When you look at the impact [the game] can have on an Aerosmith, Van Halen or Metallica, it’s really significant — so much so that you sort of question whether or not, in the case of those kinds of products, you should be paying any money at all and whether it should be the reverse. The bulk of our consumers will tell you they’re not purchasing the products based on the songs that are included, they’re purchasing based on how fun the songs are to play when they’re playing them.”

He’s exactly right. The content industry always seem to over estimate how much “value” the content provides and almost totally ignore the value provided by anyone else in the value chain. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens over the next few months, but I would bet that the video game companies have the stronger hand here, and despite Bronfman’s statements, the record labels really understand that.

Filed Under: guitar hero, music, rock band, value, video games
Companies: activision, warner music

RIAA Goes Judge Shopping After One Judge Actually Pushes Back

Legal Issues

from the sneaky,-sneaky,-sneaky dept

The RIAA has been known to pull all sorts of tricks over the years to get what it wants, but this latest one may be the most sneaky of all. Last week, Ray Beckermann was notified that the RIAA was dropping one of the cases it had filed against one of his clients, Warner v. Cassin. In that case, a judge had been reviewing a dismissal motion, and appeared to find Beckermann’s argument that “making available isn’t distribution” compelling. So, perhaps it wasn’t a huge surprise that the RIAA dropped the case before they lost it. But, then, a day later, Beckermann discovered that the RIAA had refiled the identical case in the same court, but rather than using the defendant’s name, Cassin, it had filed it under a John Doe complaint, as if they didn’t know who the defendant was. As such, the case got handed to a new judge. Basically, it appears that the RIAA didn’t like where one judge was heading with the case, so got it dismissed and immediately refiled the case (potentially under false pretenses) and had it handed to another judge. Beckermann, of course, has made all of this clear to both judges — but it seems incredibly sneaky that the RIAA would even think to go that far. Hopefully the court recognizes this judge shopping for what it is.

Filed Under: cassin, judge shopping, making available, ray beckermann, riaa
Companies: riaa, warner music

Wal-Mart Ditches DRM… And Lots Of Major Label Music With It

Culture

from the so-long,-goodbye dept

Over the last few months, the meme has taken hold that the big record labels had finally come to terms with the fact that DRM didn’t help and only frustrated users — and was finally okay with getting rid of it entirely. That sounds good, but it appears that the labels are still having trouble letting go. Wal-Mart’s online download store has finally abandoned selling any DRM’d tracks, but with it, it’s lost almost all music from major labels like Sony/BMG and Warner Music. Considering that some really major acts appear on both labels, this seems like a rather huge limitation of the Wal-Mart online store which should be trying to present a rather strong front against iTunes. It’s unclear who’s at fault here. Wired blames Wal-Mart for launching the DRM-free store before it was really ready, but there’s an equal chance that the fault is on the part of the record labels who still don’t seem completely comfortable with finally killing off DRM.

Filed Under: download stores, drm, record labels
Companies: sony bmg, wal-mart, warner music

Major Record Labels Form Joint Venture With MySpace

Culture

from the to-do-what-exactly? dept

There’s been some buzz about this all week, but now it’s official that MySpace has teamed up with three of the four major record labels (the smallest, EMI, is still holding out, though it may join eventually) to create a joint venture offering called MySpace Music. The company is separate, but connected to MySpace. Unfortunately, the details are incredibly vague. So far, it seems to say that the new company will “let people listen to tunes and watch videos for free on the Web, as well as buy merchandise, concert tickets, and music through downloads.” That’s a pretty broad description, and while it sounds good upfront, execution is everything. And, historically, the major labels haven’t executed particularly well when it comes to creating online music offerings. Already, it seems like they’re hedging by saying that they’re not committed to offering DRM-free music from this service. In fact, it often seems like these efforts are designed to fail. So, let’s take this as a tentative step in the right direction, though with the expectation that the labels will likely do something to screw this up along the way. At the very least, it’s the labels recognizing they need to change — even if they still haven’t come to terms with how to actually change.

Filed Under: business models, music, record labels, social networks
Companies: myspace, sony bmg, universal music, warner music

Warner Music Sues Seeqpod: How Dare It Help People Find Stuff Warner Wishes Didn't Exist

Legal Issues

from the suing-a-search-engine dept

A few months ago, Edgar Bronfman Jr., boss of Warner Music, made a bunch of headlines for supposedly “admitting” that the recording industry had taken the wrong strategy and had “inadvertently gone to war” with customers. That was a pretty big lie. That’s because it wasn’t inadvertent at all. Bronfman Jr., himself, had announced that he was going to send an army of lawyers after file sharing services and users way back in 2000, kicking off the war, while he was the head of Universal.

As if to highlight the fact that his “conversion” was nothing more than a PR tactic, Warner Music has continued where it left off: suing companies that aren’t actually doing anything wrong. The latest is a lawsuit against Seeqpod, the rather popular music search engine/playlist maker. Seeqpod doesn’t host any infringing materials. It’s really just a search engine that finds music that’s available elsewhere, and creates a playlist out of it. Warner is claiming that it’s a violation of the DMCA. As the EFF notes, this seems like exactly the sort of situation that the DMCA’s safe harbors were supposed to cover — but it’s become clear that the recording industry no longer believes those safe harbors should exist. If this case moves forward, it will be an important one, but given how expensive it would be, don’t be surprised if Seeqpod gives in and decides to settle.

Filed Under: dmca, music, search engines
Companies: seeqpod, warner music

Next Time You Announce An Agreement To Sell DRM-Free Downloads, Perhaps You Should Actually Have That Agreement

Failures

from the just-a-suggestion dept

Michael Robertson, the founder of MP3.com, Linspire, SIPphone and a number of other companies has a pretty direct formula for getting publicity for his new startups: do something outrageous that pretty much guarantees a lawsuit. Then just assume that the resulting lawsuit will drive the publicity of the startup. Of course, sometimes such a strategy can backfire. Earlier this year, Robertson launched AnywhereCD with the claim that he would be selling DRM-free downloads from Warner Music — perhaps the most stringent holdout in ditching DRM. Except… apparently Warner Music thought it had agreed to something entirely different and quickly sued AnywhereCD. It was actually somewhat difficult to understand Warner Music’s claim. AnywhereCD was selling the physical CD, it was just that they would then also offer the digital tracks from the same exact CD. Basically, all the company was doing was saving people the step of having to rip the CDs they had legally purchased. Either way, eventually Warner and Robertson settled, allowing Robertson to continue to sell the DRM free tracks… but only through the end of September. If you look at your calendar, you’ll realize that this is the end of September and Warner Music certainly had no interest in renewing any kind of deal with Robertson — so it should come as no surprise that AnywhereCD is shutting down. It certainly looks like the controversial marketing strategy failed in this case. Previously, the lawsuits tended to be from competitors. When the lawsuits are from your suppliers, it gets really difficult to build an actual business.

Filed Under: downloads, drm, drm-free, michael robertson, music
Companies: anywherecd, warner music