Waze, LA Cops Bury The Hatchet, Figure Out A Way To Cooperatively Help People

from the look-what's-possible-when-you-stop-bitching dept

Earlier this year, we noted how traffic-monitoring app Waze had become public enemy number one among law enforcement. Police in a growing number of cities have been trying to argue that the service puts police officers at greater risk of crazed-stalker attack by allowing users to share and comment on speed trap locations. Of course what law enforcement was really concerned about was a reduction in speed trap income, and someone with a death wish certainly doesn't need an app to locate a police officer in a marked car parked alongside a major interstate. There's also that whole First Amendment thing.

Among those Waze critics was Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck, who not only claimed Waze made parked officers a greater target for crazies, but would aid criminal skullduggerists in planning their Grand Theft Auto-esque heists:
"Beck said Tuesday the app could be used by criminals to target police or to evade officers. "It is not always in the public’s best interest to know where police are operating," Beck said. "There is a criminal element," he said, "who are able to ply their trade and craft more effectively by knowing where police are."
If you're a criminal using frequently inconsistent, crowdsourced speed trap data as your lookout for your multi-million dollar heist, you're probably not going to be much of an actual threat. Interestingly though, Beck appears to have come to (at least some of) his senses with the news that Los Angeles law enforcement is now working with Google and Waze on a partnership that will involve sharing kidnapping and hit-and-run data with Waze users:
"Waze, an Israeli-made traffic and navigation app bought by Google in 2013, already provides updates on road closures via user contributions. The new partnership with the West Coast city’s government will see further alerts pop up over the next few months, showing ‘amber’ incidents including hit-and-run attacks and kidnappings. "This is going to be updated in real-time, every two minutes, giving motorists the information they need to […] get home for dinner in time," said Garcetti."
We get too few relatively happy endings (not that kidnappings and hit-and-runs are happy endings), but using LA's 1.3 million Waze users as a force for good certainly seems like a welcome turnaround. Of course, that may not stop Beck from simultaneously trying to get speed trap data pulled from the app (and there are still some cops trying to flood Waze with bogus data to make crowdsourcing less useful), but it's a good example of crowdsourcing being a positive agent for change -- and not some kind of destructive societal menace that needs curtailing for the greater good.
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Filed Under: amber alerts, data, la, lapd, traffic information, waze
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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Apr 2015 @ 9:35pm

    Curated content by big business and big government

    More options are good, but I hope this isn't mandatory. If it is, this opens the floodgates for other *sponsored content*. Of course, being owned by Google it would have happened sooner or later.

    Getting unwanted ads in Google Maps was one of the main reasons I switched to OpenStreetMap based navigation.

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    Anonymous Coward, 29 Apr 2015 @ 5:02am

    Waze already has lots of sponsored content. Recently it has been offering to guide me to 7-11s all around NoVA which I find useful. Duncan Donuts wasn't all that helpful for my diet.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Apr 2015 @ 6:45am

    The cop should be glad that this app is bringing crazy stockers to them, now they can catch them without having to search for and chase them first. I wish I can create an app that brings criminals to police, that would make the police's jobs that much easier.

    Oh wait, police don't actually care about going after real criminals. Easier to go after those that break overreaching traffic laws. An app that brings real criminals to police is exactly what they don't want. Better to just let those criminals find some unarmed citizen to stock instead.

    You're a police officer. It's your job to go after real criminals. Here is an app that brings them to you and suddenly you're afraid.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Apr 2015 @ 9:06am

      Re:

      "find some unarmed citizen to stock instead."

      But what section do unarmed citizens go in? Since cops frequently use them for target practice, I'm guessing they go in the sporting goods section?

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  • identicon
    Thrudd, 29 Apr 2015 @ 9:49am

    Afraid

    They are always afraid. That is what they tell us whenever they gun down, run over, choke to death anyone in the past.
    Our poor terrified special little snowflakes.

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    vfxguy (profile), 29 Apr 2015 @ 10:30am

    While Waze may have made nice with the LA Cops, City Council has issues

    It's amazing. City Council already wants to use this to "leverage" waze into doing what they want.I truly think that some city council member lives in an area where through traffic has increased.

    http://mynewsla.com/government/2015/04/28/cut-through-traffic-caused-by-waze-app-must-stop -l-a-councilman-says/

    From the article:

    A Los Angeles city deal with traffic app Waze may be great, but some local communities are being inundated with “cut-through” traffic that must stop, a Los Angeles City Councilman said Tuesday.

    Paul Krekorian introduced a motion to help local neighborhoods, saying Waze should send drivers away from residential streets and onto major roadways as part of the company’s data-sharing agreement with the city.

    Mayor Eric Garcetti announced last week that the city is sharing road closure data with Waze to improve its service, and in return the city is getting live updates about traffic patterns around the city.

    Krekorian introduced a motion saying that the city should “leverage” on this pact by asking Waze to point drivers to major roads, instead of allowing them to take short cuts through residential neighborhoods.

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      John Fenderson (profile), 29 Apr 2015 @ 10:46am

      Re: While Waze may have made nice with the LA Cops, City Council has issues

      "some local communities are being inundated with “cut-through” traffic that must stop, a Los Angeles City Councilman said Tuesday."

      The city council already has the power to stop this sort of thing in a way that doesn't require Waze to change a thing: by changing traffic controls.

      This has been common practice in a large number of communities from long before Waze existed, because when a major thoroughfare becomes the slowest or most infurating way to get through a neighborhood, people will start breaking out maps or physically exploring side routes in order to avoid them.

      I've never used Waze or anything like it myself, but there are numerous major thoroughfares near me that become impassible during rush hour (which lasts about 4 hours). When I seek out a better route, I invariably find that thousands of people have already discovered the route before I did.

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    Coyne Tibbets (profile), 30 Apr 2015 @ 12:07am

    Nothing grea$e$ wheel$ like a clo$e partner$hip

    I predict that Waze's speed trap and police tracking will become peculiarly inaccurate...anywhere a Waze-police partnership sprouts.

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  • identicon
    AnonyBabs, 30 Apr 2015 @ 11:10am

    You're a little late with your April Fools post.

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