Judge Says No To Hurt Locker Subpoenas

from the follow-the-rules,-guys dept

Last month, we noted that at least one ISP, Midcontinent Communications, was actually fighting the mass subpoenas from US Copyright Group in its attempt to demand money from people associated with IP addresses that allegedly shared the movie Hurt Locker. It looks like the judge has, indeed, quashed the subpoenas, noting a series of procedural problems with them (notably, these are mostly the same procedural problems with the subpoena recently sent to us). This doesn't mean that things are over, as US Copyright Group can try to follow the rules next time around, but it should be a reminder to companies that just because you receive a subpoena, it doesn't mean you just have to roll over and hand over information. You have every right to make sure that it's within what the law allows.

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    Anonymous Coward, 24 Sep 2010 @ 4:44pm

    I saw the movie through a copy somebody gave me and it is a horrible movie, how it got an Oscar I will not ever understand still I hope people bring pain and misery for the parties involved in this scam to defraud people.

    Now a lot of people can use the "this is not the right venue" and quash all the others.

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    abc gum, 24 Sep 2010 @ 6:29pm

    I read that movie sucked

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    average_joe (profile), 25 Sep 2010 @ 7:36am

    It's subpoena, singular, not subpoenas, plural.

    Midcontinent listed four reasons for quashing the subpoena:

    (1) invalid service of process

    (2) the subpoena was not issued under the authority of a court described in Rule 45, i.e., the subpoena should be issued under the authority of the District of South Dakota under Rule 45(a)(2)

    (3) the parties whose identities are sought by Voltage have not been notified of the subpoena as Rule 45 requires

    (4) money was not attached to the subpoena to reimburse Midcontinent for their costs of producing the information

    The judge only had to look to (1) to decide in Midcontinent's favor: "Service by facsimile transmission in not an authorized method of service under the Rule." You can't just fax a subpoena someone. Duh!

    Now, I wouldn't get too excited about this. It was a simple yet stupid mistake by USCG, IMO. They could very easily fix all of these problems and resubmit the subpoena properly. Considering that the 143 defendants in question could mean hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential settlements, I will be surprised if USCG doesn't fix their mistakes and resubmit the subpoena.

    Still, there is plenty of egg on USCG's face for this mistake. We should all take a moment and laugh at them. ;)

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      Anonymous Coward, 25 Sep 2010 @ 11:51am


      Is this really you? I think this is the first time I've ever read on of your posts that's accurate, and even happens to agree with mike, nice to see you've become more reasonable.

      I'll bet the next time if they properly resubmit it, Midcontinent will fight it again and win. This time, it was denied on procedural grounds simply because that was far easier than fighting it on the basis of it's substance.

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        average_joe (profile), 25 Sep 2010 @ 12:10pm

        Re: Re:

        I think it's hilarious that USCG just faxed this subpoena to South Dakota. What were they thinking?

        If USCG does it right and resubmits it, it will not be denied. I don't care how hard Midcontinent fights it. There's just no legal basis to deny these subpoenas if they are properly submitted.

        There's really no reason to think Midcontinent would even fight it if it were proper. If you read their brief you'll see that they are all to happy to play along if USCG submits a proper subpoena. They said it'll take them 3.5 hours to look up the 143 names. I'm sure USCG will be more than happy to take them up on that.

        And my posts are always accurate, thank you very much. ;)

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    corberlaw (profile), 25 Sep 2010 @ 3:22pm

    the south dakota decision

    Someone needs to post a link to the court's actual decision so that it may be used in other jurisdictions.

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    surfer, 26 Sep 2010 @ 6:00am

    you can bet..

    you can bet it is not the last, at least until the ambulance chasers have their license to practice law revoked.

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    Hurting Locker, 29 Sep 2010 @ 3:15pm

    How can the ISP prove you are the actual downloader if the interenet is not secure?

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