The Challenge Is In Tweaking Your Poker Bot...

from the new-sports dept

A few years ago, we wrote about how online poker players were often getting assistance from training tools that told them what to do in certain situations. Of course, since then, there's been something of an online poker bubble generating a ton of attention and money. So, with that, it really shouldn't be any surprise that poker bots are becoming much more popular, allowing people to just let the bot play hands for them while they do something more productive (like sleep). While there are lots of arguments about ethics and whether this is legal, that didn't seem to be the most interesting part of the article. In fact, the article seems to have brushed over the most interesting part of the article itself. Apparently, the most popular bot, WinHoldEm, lets users tweak strategies -- and it's the strategies and not the bot that makes someone a winner. In fact, the article suggests it's becoming popular for users to swap and trade different formula sets. In other words, unlike what most people think of when they think of bots invading a game, there is still strategy involved, it's just that the strategy is in tweaking your bot to the best of its ability, which could actually depend on who the bot is playing against (and, assuming other bots are playing, how they're tweaked). So, perhaps the more modern equivalent to sports and games won't be your own feats of strength or strategy -- but how you tweak a computer to play for you.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Aug 2005 @ 5:49am

    No Subject Given

    Sounds like a for-profit version of the game Mindrover (amongst others, e.g. redcode, etc).

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    dave, 29 Aug 2005 @ 7:58am

    next step

    The next obvious step is to develop a program that can write the bot strategies and tweak them based on results...

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    pokerpundit, 29 Aug 2005 @ 8:05am

    No Subject Given

    This is absolutely the best way to END forever online poker.
    Human beings simply will not play poker programs for real money ... no matter how someone rationalizes it. True, there is strategy involved, but strategy is not the end of poker success ... it is merely the beginning.
    As soon as new players realize that they have to play a tilt-less computer program that never sleeps, never gets tired, never miscalculates a move ... online poker will be history.

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      capt.obvious, 29 Aug 2005 @ 11:15am

      Re: No Subject Given

      Whatever dude, tell that to all the online gambling addicts that are too lazy to leave their house to get a fix...

      Plus there will always be thousands of people that are too clueless to realize that bots even exist...

      And in the end, even if all legit players stop playing by some odd chance, then the online world of gambling will be nothing but bot stragety tweakers who 'play' while they sleep.

      Do you think this bothers the poker businesses any? They will still be taking a rake and the "bot players" will still have to buy in with real money. Therefore they still make shitloads of money.

      Online poker isn't going anywhere.

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        Sir Poker Bot., 22 Sep 2005 @ 3:27pm

        Re: tweaking

        I am looking for some of these tweaking profiles,if there are any such things.
        If anyone has some I would be happy to compare.as I find that you can beat winholdem's play 68% of the time.just study its play it will hold or fold exactly the same way with no deviation at all. I would like to see the starting, and raise hands,chart that someone thinks they can win with.

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      Anonymous Coward, 11 Dec 2006 @ 9:30pm

      Re: No Subject Given

      this comment is idiotic, poker bots are only profitable at micro and low limit tables

      additionaly poker bots can only play one form of poker: limit

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      Anonymous Coward, 3 Jun 2007 @ 3:54am

      Re: No Subject Given

      u have no clue do u?

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    George, 13 Dec 2005 @ 8:30pm

    right

    I can tell you right now there are great poker bots out there and they are fleecing low limit games on many of the popular poker sites. Ha ha!

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  • identicon
    Robert, 22 Jan 2006 @ 9:16am

    WSOPR Poker Bot

    The game level demonstrated by the bots in WSOPR that have taken place in Las Vegas, was really good, the 6 bots had a level worthy of this competition, it was very touching to see how they played, even better than many humans.

    You can see the web of a WSOPR contestant at:

    http://www.holdemmemory.com


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  • identicon
    Inside Man DVD, 2 Aug 2006 @ 3:25pm

    Inside Man DVD

    >Inside Man DVD - Inside Man DVD is the story of a tough cop, Detective Frazier, who matches wits with a clever bank robber, Dalton, in a tense hostage drama. Get your Inside Man DVD from http://www.insideman.net/

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  • identicon
    Mark, 25 Aug 2006 @ 3:40am

    Poker Bobby Scam

    In case anyone is interested,The above poker bot (Poker Bobby) that these guys above are selling for $49, is exactly the same one you can get for FREE! at: http://www.texas-holdem-bot.com/
    My friend purchased the one from: http://pokerbobby.com/
    and was obviously quite annoyed when he discovered this. The poker bobby people, also DO NOT put the $75 into your poker account like they promise.

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    • identicon
      dennis, 27 Aug 2006 @ 4:03pm

      Re: Poker Bobby Scam

      i know the feeling i bought the same bullshit. i feel like a real moron just wish i could get the word out to more people that poker bobby is a scam so thos bastards dont make any more money.

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  • identicon
    dennis, 27 Aug 2006 @ 4:06pm

    poker bot programs

    does anybody know of any free programs that get you started to build your own bots? if so email me at: mellee0608@yahoo.com

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    Stoffer, 1 Sep 2006 @ 4:27am

    Yeah - Poker Bobby is a big scam. One of my friends did also buy this so called winning robot. He won alot, about 100 USD the first 2 days, but lost it all the day after when he did not monitor Bobby's play. So stay away from Bobby!

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  • identicon
    Adam, 8 Sep 2006 @ 8:53am

    Pokerbot with trial

    I have been messing around with PokerAndroid a little. It seems decent so far and unlike others they let you download a trial version so if you don't like it it doesn't cost you anything.

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  • identicon
    John, 13 Sep 2006 @ 5:19am

    Poker Bobby Report

    I just got a report that Poker Bobby has agreements with Titan Poker. This is bull crap! I only put in 25 bucks to see how it works, but anyone who reads this stay away. Win the money yourself!

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    skata, 6 Oct 2006 @ 6:42pm

    Poker Bobby get more info

    they say in the info page that they will give away 500 poker bobby copys for people to play for free as they say the results report to them and their bots learn from the 500 other and so get better at it. They also say they match your depposit by 50% ex you put 100 they put 50.
    If someone has some more info post it please

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    Georg, 19 Oct 2006 @ 5:01am

    The truth about holdem-bot.com

    The author of the poker bot said: "It is a very very simple program. It doesn't need to be a winning poker bot." See yourself and click HERE for all information.

    It will be very nice if the owner of the bot can tell us here the truth about his poker bot. I don't want to cry: "It's a scam!" I want to know the truth only.

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    Georg Liebering, 20 Oct 2006 @ 3:53am

    If you stop it at the right time...

    I have tried it some hours. I think it makes only a profit it you have tons of fish at the table. But then you can play without it. But if there are enough fish then you can go shopping and let the robot make the money.

    If you stop it at the right time with profit then it works too. Your own waves for luck are going up and down, it is named the "personal permanency" coming from roulette gambling. If you make a profit with this robot at a 1/2 table then it's not a bad way to stop ist and restart at a .25/.50 table to take the bad times without luck with small losses. You can't wait for good and bad times fictitiously in gambling. You have to play real.

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    Brian Url, 31 Oct 2006 @ 3:38pm

    poker bot

    Poker Pilot is a bot I have been using and it is cheap to try. $24.95 It is not a scam site. You do have to configure it. So, if you don't know how to play you won't be successful. It does evaluate your preflop hands.

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    John Grenci, 15 Nov 2006 @ 6:59pm

    bots

    does anyone know how prevalant bots are? ie, do you know of people that use them? do they win a lot of money? I look at some of the stats of players (on sharkscope.com) and have to believe some people are using them. are there sites where it cannot be used?

    any info is greatly appreciated.

    thanks
    John

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  • identicon
    Filip, 21 Feb 2007 @ 6:03am

    I made this bot

    I have created the software in pokerbobby.com, holdem-bot.com, holdemrobot.com, pokerobot.com, botace.com, holdemagent.com etc.

    I made this software to see if it's possible to create a poker bot that can play against human people. It was an experiment, and I neither failed or succeed. The fact is that you need a human brain to understand another human brain. And this what poker is all about.

    This software is not a scam in itself, allthough some of its publishers promote it rather aggressive.

    I spent years developing the bot and still doing it.

    Thanks,
    Filip

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    Filip, 21 Feb 2007 @ 6:04am

    I made this bot

    I have created the software in pokerbobby.com, holdem-bot.com, holdemrobot.com, pokerobot.com, botace.com, holdemagent.com etc.

    I made this software to see if it's possible to create a poker bot that can play against human people. It was an experiment, and I neither failed or succeed. The fact is that you need a human brain to understand another human brain. And this what poker is all about.

    This software is not a scam in itself, allthough some of its publishers promote it rather aggressive.

    I spent years developing the bot and still doing it.

    Thanks,
    Filip

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    Nex, 29 Dec 2007 @ 7:39pm

    A guide to creating your own bot:
    http://pokerbot.node64.com

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  • identicon
    John Grenci, 4 Mar 2008 @ 4:22am

    what comment is idiotic?

    question to anonymous coward..

    andyour name fits you perfectly!

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    Danny, 9 Apr 2008 @ 7:44am

    To let the bot play you need a profile playing a winning strategy that can also be tweaked to improve.

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  • identicon
    Poker Bots, 17 Sep 2009 @ 10:12am

    Free Trial Poker Bots

    Here are some poker bot sites offering trial versions,
    Online Poker Bot
    Smart Poker Bot
    Advanced Bot

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  • identicon
    Paul, 26 Aug 2013 @ 2:06pm

    Free bot profiles

    Free Shanky bot profiles and the cheapest prices for paid profiles at http://shankybotprofiles.webs.com/

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