Weeks After Denouncing Government Censorship On Rogan, Zuckerberg Texted Elon Musk Offering To Take Down Content For DOGE

from the hypocrisy-as-a-service dept

On January 10th, 2025, Mark Zuckerberg sat down with Joe Rogan and put on quite a performance. He talked about how the Biden administration had pressured Meta to take down content. He detailed how the Biden administration had apparently pressured Meta to take down content — how officials called and screamed and cursed — and how, going forward, he was a changed man. A champion of free expression, done forever with government demands to remove content. And a whole bunch of people (especially MAGA folks) cheered all this on. Zuckerberg was a protector of free speech against government suppression!

Twenty-four days later, he texted Elon Musk — a senior government official at the time — to volunteer to remove content the government wouldn’t like. Unprompted.

As I wrote at the time, the whole Rogan interview was an exercise in misdirection. The “pressure” Zuck kept describing was the kind of thing the Supreme Court explicitly found, in the Murthy case, was standard-issue government communication — the kind of thing Justice Kagan said happens “literally thousands of times a day in the federal government.” The Court called the lower court’s findings of “censorship” clearly erroneous. And Zuck himself kept admitting, over and over, that Meta’s response to the Biden administration was to tell them no. He said so explicitly:

And basically it just got to this point where we were like, no we’re not going to. We’re not going to take down things that are true. That’s ridiculous…

In other words, the Biden administration asked, Meta said “nah,” and that was that. The Supreme Court agreed this fell well short of coercion. Indeed, the only documented instance of the Biden administration making an actual specific takedown request to a social media platform was to flag an account impersonating one of Biden’s grandchildren. That was it. That was the “massive government censorship operation.”

But Zuck milked it beautifully on the podcast, and Rogan ate it up. The narrative was established: Zuckerberg, defender of free expression, standing tall against the censorious government, vowing to never again let officials dictate what stays up and what comes down on his platforms.

That was January 10th.

On February 3rd, Zuckerberg texted Elon Musk:

Looks like DOGE is making progress. I’ve got our teams on alert to take down content doxxing or threatening the people on your team. Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help.

So the man who spent three hours performing righteous indignation about government censorship proactively reached out to a senior government official to let him know Meta was already taking action to remove content on behalf of that official’s government operation — including truthful information like the names of public servants working for the federal government.

“Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help.”

A guy who spent three hours on the biggest podcast in the world performing righteous indignation about government censorship pressure — then, weeks later, volunteered exactly that kind of service, unprompted, to the same government. Just with a different party in power.

The Biden administration’s alleged “coercion” amounted to strongly worded emails that Meta freely ignored, and its only documented specific takedown request was for an account literally pretending to be the president’s grandchild. Zuckerberg’s response to that: three hours on the world’s biggest podcast denouncing government censorship. His response to Musk’s DOGE operation: a proactive late-night text offering to suppress information identifying the federal employees doing the dismantling.

And Zuck’s framing of “doxxing” is doing a lot of work here. The DOGE staffers whose identities were being shared on social media were federal employees exercising enormous government power — canceling grants, accessing sensitive government databases, making decisions that affected millions of Americans. The administration went to great lengths to hide who these people were, precisely because what they were doing was controversial and, in many cases, potentially illegal. Identifying who is wielding government power on your behalf has a name, and that name is accountability, not “doxxing.”

Notably, the Zuckerberg text came the day after Wired started naming DOGE bros. Which is reporting. Not doxxing. Doxxing is revealing private info, such as an address. A federal employee’s name is not private info. It’s just journalism.

Also notice how Zuckerberg bundles “doxxing or threatening” — conflating two very different things. Removing credible threats of violence is something every platform already does; it’s in every terms of service. But by packaging the identification of public servants alongside actual threats, Zuck makes the whole thing sound like a routine trust-and-safety operation rather than what it actually was: volunteering to help the government hide its own employees from public scrutiny.

Compare the two scenarios directly. The Biden administration flagged a fake account impersonating a minor family member of the president — a clear-cut case of impersonation that every platform’s rules already cover. In other cases, they simply asked Facebook to explain its policies for dealing with potential health misinformation in the middle of a pandemic. Zuckerberg’s response, per his Rogan narrative, was to tell them to pound sand, and then go on a podcast to brag about it. Meanwhile, when it came to Musk and DOGE, it looks like Zuck didn’t wait to be asked. He texted Elon Musk at 10 PM on a Monday night to let him know the teams were already mobilized. He closed with “let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help,” which is really more “eager intern” energy than “principled defender of free expression” energy.

It’s also worth noting the broader context of the relationship here. These two were, at least publicly, supposed to be rivals. Remember the whole cage match fiasco? The very public trash-talking? And yet here’s Zuck texting Musk late at night, opening with flattery (“Looks like DOGE is making progress”), offering content suppression as a gift, and then — in literally the next breath in the text exchange — Musk pivots to asking Zuck if he wants to join a bid to buy OpenAI’s intellectual property.

“Are you open to the idea of bidding on the OpenAI IP with me and some others?” Musk asked. Zuck suggested they discuss it live. Just a couple of billionaires doing billionaire things at 10:30 PM after one of them volunteered censorship services to the other’s government operation.

We only know about any of this, by the way, because of Musk’s quixotic lawsuit against OpenAI. These texts were designated as a trial exhibit by OpenAI’s lawyers. Musk’s team is now trying to get them excluded from evidence. The motion seeking to suppress this evidence opens with one of the more entertaining paragraphs you’ll find in a legal filing:

President Trump. Burning Man. Rhino ketamine. These are all inflammatory and highly irrelevant topics that Defendants are trying to improperly make the subject of this litigation. Throughout fact discovery, Defendants have gratuitously probed these topics, and their trial evidence disclosures make clear that they intend to use the same scandalizing tactics at trial. Defendants should not be allowed to exploit Musk’s political involvement, social or recreational choices, or gratuitous details of his personal life at trial. As detailed below, Musk is the subject of daily, often-fabricated media scrutiny.

The filing goes on to argue that the Zuckerberg text exchange has “nothing to do with Musk’s claims” and amounts to an attempt to “stoke negative sentiments toward Musk because of his association with Zuckerberg.” Which is a fun way to describe a text message in which a tech CEO volunteers content moderation favors to a government official. Musk’s lawyers aren’t wrong that it’s embarrassing — just not for the reasons they think.

The hypocrisy, though, is almost beside the point. The entire Rogan performance was designed to establish a narrative: that the Biden administration engaged in some kind of unprecedented censorship campaign, and that Zuckerberg was bravely standing up to it. That narrative was then used to justify Meta’s decision to end its fact-checking programs and loosen its content policies — framed as a return to “free expression” principles.

But the Zuck-Musk texts show what those “free expression” principles actually look like in practice. Zuck is more than happy to suppress speech when he supports the person in the White House. It’s only when he doesn’t like the person in the White House that he gets to pretend he’s a free speech warrior.

This has nothing to do with free expression. It’s about power. Who has it, who Zuckerberg thinks he needs to stay on the right side of, and who he thinks he can safely perform outrage against. The Biden administration was on its way out the door when Zuck did the Rogan interview, making them a perfectly safe target for his “never again” act. Musk was ascendant, running a government operation backed by a president who had directly threatened to throw Zuckerberg in prison.

So the principled free speech stance lasted less than a month before Zuck was back to volunteering content suppression — this time without even being asked, for the people who actually had the power to hurt him. And that’s just the text message that surfaced in an unrelated lawsuit. The rest of the ledger isn’t public.

Some defender of free expression.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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And the hilarious irony that this failson saw his company fired by a top IP lawyer after this failson has been embracing neo-Nazi madness and toxic masculinity. And double corroboration that Zuckerberg is a failson who will support ideologies that would make the 9/11 hijackers mouths foam in satisfaction that he went to a bigot who defended a Nazi cartoonist on the social media platform this bigot owns.

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Ninja (profile) says:

Zuckeberg has been an unethical asshole since he started Facebook. Most of us know it started as a chauvinistic project to evaluate his female peers in the university nowadays.

From there as he gained tons of money and the power that comes with it his social restraints snapped and here we are. Just like Musk shamelessly did the nazi salute twice in a live event, Zuckeberg has grown used to the shielding that being a billionaire brings from law and everything else that could hold him accountable.

I do hope this is starting to change.

That One Guy (profile) says:

I'd say he changed his tune fast but no, he just showed his true face

Biden Administration: Hey some of this stuff seems to be in violation of your stated rules and might be literally putting lives in danger, no pressure but would you mind looking into that?

Zuckerberg: Government censorship! No more I say, no more will I stand for the government telling me what I can and cannot have on my platform, I support free speech and will fight to the death for it!

Five minutes after the Trump Regime takes over, shortly after Trump threatens to jail Zuckerberg if he doesn’t censor what he’s told to:

Zuckerberg: So I’ve already got a team ready and willing to take down anything that you want me to, just say the word.

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Anonymous Coward says:

the Supreme Court explicitly found, in the Murthy case, was standard-issue government communication

THE SUPREME COURT DID NOT “FIND” ANYTHING IN MURTHY, YOU STUPID LIAR.

The case was not ruled on at all, it was determined there was no standing. THERE WAS NO FINDING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THE MERITS.

You are lying about this, every single time, dozens of times now, at least.

The “ruling” was not as you would have liked it (not mine, either) so you just think it’s OK to make it up? It is NOT.

MrWilson (profile) says:

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The case was not ruled on at all, it was determined there was no standing.

This is a mutually exclusive conclusion. If it wasn’t ruled on, then they wouldn’t have determined there was no standing. A ruling of no standing is still a ruling. And a ruling of no standing comes with a reason. In this case, it’s a reason you don’t want to be true, so you’ll argue contradictory bullshit like “they didn’t rule anything; they just ruled something!”

You haven’t learned from your idol Trump, but we’ll say it again for the sycophants with half a brain cell of self-awareness: Just because you repeat bullshit doesn’t make it true.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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This is a mutually exclusive conclusion.

It’s not, you’re retarded. It was a “ruling not to rule”.

Nothing was legally determined, and your semantic dissembling is not interesting.

It’s amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Okay, so…why did the court rule that there was no standing?

It does not matter, at all. There was no ruling based on merit. No legal determination, no precedent. (in reality it was probably a political dodge)

And your boy MM feels the need to consistently lie about what that ruling was (or lack thereof) in order to claim a win he did not get. It’s pathetic.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Seems to me that the court ruling against standing implies the court looked at the arguments and didn’t see any activity from the government that would’ve given the plaintiffs standing to sue.

So why did the court rule that there was no standing?

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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That is not what lack of standing means at all

In this case, it is. The court looked at the evidence alleging harm that was presented by the plaintiffs and found that said evidence did not give the plaintiffs any actionable claims. Even if the court didn’t say “everything those companies did was legal”, it did say “nothing we’ve seen shows any injury that gives the plaintiffs standing to sue”. A lay person might argue that those two conclusions are the same thing, even if (legally speaking) they’re not. A loss on standing is as good as a loss on the merits in this case because standing hinged on the same evidence of injury (or lack thereof) upon which the case would’ve been tried on its merits.

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Rocky (profile) says:

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What’s pathetic clownboy, is that you think you understand legal matters.

You blather on about merit while totally missing the point why they ruled they way they did and it is just mindboggling that you are unable to connect the dots here. It is very simple, it was concluded the plaintiffs suit had no merit, substance or proof of injury (you know, the part you are desperately ignoring) that would trigger Article III standing.

But keep screaming about lies while we point out your stupid clownishness.

MrWilson (profile) says:

Also notice how Zuckerberg bundles “doxxing or threatening” — conflating two very different things.

This makes sense from the thought process of a self-aware sociopath. “If they knew what we were doing with our power, they’d get angry and become a threat!”

It’s a full-throated confession. They don’t have a problem with unethical behavior. It’s just such a pain in the ass when they get caught and called out for it.

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