RFK Jr. Is Very Interested In, And Likely Wrong About, Your Teenager’s Sperm Count
from the see,-men? dept
Look, folks, I’m sorry, but RFK Jr. is going to force us to talk about sperm. And I’m very much going to try to keep the jokes at an absolute minimum, because, as per usual when Kennedy starts spouting off about something health-related, this isn’t actually funny.
At this point I don’t think it makes sense to write up an intro to the post about how batshit crazy RFK Jr. is, how awful it is that he is currently running HHS, and how dangerous his policies and ramblings are. I’ve said it all before many, many times. He sucks, you get it, let’s move on.
Kennedy is very interested in your teenager’s sperm. He’s been talking about it for nearly a year now, typically as it relates to his claims that today’s teenage boy has a lower sperm count than men in their sixties and seventies. He growled out this claim once again at a recent White House presser.
Let’s focus in real hard on the claim about teenagers’ sperm count. You know, like putting it under a microscope, as you would do to analyze the sperm concentration in a sample! But not a teenage boy’s sperm count, because, like… why are you even collecting that in the sort of significant numbers that would be required for a proper sample size in a study?
Contrary to Kennedy’s claims, sperm counts decline with age, so young men have much higher counts than older men. And data about sperm counts in teen boys largely does not exist.
Well, of course it doesn’t exist. Why would it? Why in the absolute hell would the parent of a 15 year old be getting that child’s sperm concentration medically tested? Generally, this just isn’t a thing.
This is the hallmark of an RFK Jr. claim. You take outlier studies in unsettled science and declare the minority position conclusively right, so long as it aligns with some larger philosophy you have. In this case, two philosophies of Kennedy’s: a war against environmental chemicals like pesticides and a sort of man-dominated fascism in which hyper-masculinity is of high value.
And here is where I’d like to coin a term: masculofascism. Yes, hyper-masculinity has long been a tenant of fascism generally, but this is, I think, differently emphasized in America’s modern day version. Masculofascism isn’t a word currently — Hi, Webster’s Dictionary! Feel free to adopt this one! –, but I asked Google to tell me what it thinks it would mean on a lark
I mean, come on comrades and friends, I might as well have asked Google to describe RFK Jr. to me.
Anyway, back to sperm. Are sperm rates for teenagers falling? How about for young men, or even men generally? Is this even a thing?
Well, like all manner of health-related topics, it’s complicated.
“This is a very contentious issue in our field, and for every paper that you find that suggests a decline and raises an alarm for this issue, there’s another paper that says that the numbers aren’t changing, and that there’s no cause for concern,” said Dr. Scott Lundy, a reproductive urologist at the Cleveland Clinic.
In fact, this is a topic and debate that goes back decades. Studies have been coming out since the early 90s suggesting that sperm counts in men were in decline compared with their male counterparts in decades past. In fact, the 50% reduction line is just as old.
In 1993, scientist Louis Guillette shocked Congress when he testified at a hearing that “every man sitting in this room today is half the man his grandfather was.”
Guillette was referring to a generational decline in sperm count. A year before his testimony, a review of papers published from 1938 to 1991 determined that the average sperm count had fallen around 50%.
As Dr. Lundy indicated earlier, there are other studies that show no decline, too. More of those, actually. Following that hearing, in follow up studies, 35 more studies were done on this topic analyzing historical data, and 27 of them either showed no change or an increase in sperm count (21), or had inconclusive data (6). Only eight of them showed any kind of decline in sperm count or semen quality, a minority position. It’s the minority position.
Oh, and that study’s methodology was heavily disputed.
But many researchers have since found flaws in the review — among them, that it included relatively little data from the first few decades of the analysis, the men in the studies were evaluated using different methods and the data analysis did not account for the fact that many men’s sperm counts fall within a lower range.
“The paper was widely, wildly cited,” but “the statistics were not solid,” said Dolores Lamb, who researches male infertility at Children’s Mercy Kansas City.
I’ll just add to all of that the simple fact that the American population in 1990 was 248.7 million people. In 2023 it was 336.8 million. Somehow, amidst all this drop in sperm count and fertility, the population grew 35% in 30 years.
But we’re not done. More recently, in 2021, Shanna Swan wrote the book Count Down. Swan is a reproductive epidemiologist and argued that sperm counts had fallen by 52% (man, that number keeps coming up) across several continents from 1973 to 2011. In that same book, she argued that the median sperm count would reach null in 25 years. That would essentially end the human race as we know it, of course, which sounds quite alarming. And Swan, to be clear, is well-credentialed.
But it’s very difficult to square her claims with the fact that the population in most if not all of the continents she studied over that same time period has increased, not decreased. Here’s the North American population chart since 1950. If you can spot any sort of real cause for concern, feel free to point it out.

But men’s groups lost their minds over her paper. They argued that something was going on that was causing men to lose their masculinity. That’s the theme here. No longer are men real men. We’re something less than that now and you can tell because we don’t produce as many DNA missiles as we used to.
Unfortunately for all this testicle-wringing, Swan’s methodology was also questioned. As was the analysis based on point in time sperm samples generally.
Lamb said the analyses from Swan and her co-authors had a major weakness in their methodology. They assumed that laboratories in different parts of the world were collecting and testing semen in the same way, she said, when in fact the methods likely varied.
Swan stood by her team’s results, saying in an email that they accounted for differences in methodologies across studies, as well as the challenges of getting accurate sperm counts.
Lundy, of the Cleveland Clinic, said measuring sperm counts can be hard to do consistently. The count itself can go up and down depending on the frequency of ejaculation, time of year, or whether someone is injured or has a fever.
His analysis last year found a subtle decline in sperm count among men in the U.S. from 1970 to 2018 but one that most likely wouldn’t affect fertility in real life.
And, of course, there are a ton of potential mitigating factors to account for that could also impact a point in time sperm sample. Smoking effects sperm vitality. While smoking is largely on the decline (probably also seen as a decline in masculinity), there’s no indication a smoking status was accounted for in the samples analyzed for these studies. Alcohol also lowers sperm count and I really hope we aren’t going to argue that America saw a steep decline in alcohol consumption from 1970 to the 2010s (yes, there is currently a trend in America for reduced alcohol consumption, but that’s too new to show up in this data).
And, hey, I’ll give Kennedy some credit: studying pesticide effects on human reproduction, as well as many other healthcare factors, is a worthy area of study. But he undermines his own position when he takes the minority view of a scientific endeavor or area of study and simply declares that view dispositive. And he does this all the time.
And it’s often hypocritical. You know what else vastly decreases sperm count?
Testosterone replacement therapy — a treatment that has exploded in popularity among young men looking to feel more energized or to increase their sex drive — can also shut off sperm production entirely.
“Men on testosterone are almost uniformly azoospermic and totally infertile, and sometimes that is only partially reversible if they’ve been on high-dose testosterone for many years,” Lundy said.
Kennedy himself told Newsmax in 2023 that he takes testosterone replacement as part of an “anti-aging protocol.”
And, of course, there is vastly more to human fertility, or even male fertility, than sperm count. Nuance is what is at play here, not simple answers to complex issues. Or non-issues, as is likely in this context.
But you won’t get that out of Kennedy. Instead, you get that fourth bullet in Google’s interpretation of masculofascism: a devaluation of critical thinking and a preference for quick and simple action in lieu of intellectual discourse.
A more perfect description of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I cannot find.
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Comments on “RFK Jr. Is Very Interested In, And Likely Wrong About, Your Teenager’s Sperm Count”
Every sperm is sacred
I’m sure he’ll blame mRNA vaccines.
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Looks more than young men are nowadays too woke to have good sperm (RFK is kindly enough to let us know wandering which one is the cause or the consequence).
Talking about “batshit crazy”, I guess that bat shit will be his new subject of study. We now all know that bat shit didn’t produced Covid-19 (it would have been too easy) but… the answer next week in “RFK presents: 4th Dimension Mysteries”. Stay tuned.
Alternative word
I suggest a fewer-syllabic word masculinism, but using the same characteristics of male-centered fascism.
If you analyze it, masculinism is frame-flipped feminism. Women are the usurpers and oppressors, men are the victims in their minds.
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There’s already a word for that
Patriarchy
Re: Nope
Women don’t have what it takes to oppress in real masculinism. The oppressors are misguided and/or treacherous males shamefully entering themselves or their fellow peniswielders into submission.
Females are only lured into uppitiness by delusion, something which can be cured by providing them with the grace of forcing them back into sexual submission.
It is not actually too different a theory from that underlying religious conversion by word and sword (with the latter often being the preferred option). In either case the purported “beneficiaries” of overriding their personal choices aren’t seen as enemies but as being on a wrong path. Which can be cured by treating them worse than enemies. Out of an abundance of mercy.
Either way, it helps if you happen to be a hypocrite and a cynic.
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I just assumed Fascism is the word for male centered Fascism.
Wait....
“I am the man my sperm count makes me” is a helluva a take for a man with a worm count.
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Well, he was happy to sport at least one wriggling bugger in the private parts he was doing his thinking with.
Or was he?
It seemed pretty obvious to me that the likeliest scenario is that RFK Jr. is, in keeping with creepy abusive patriarchal conservative values, justifying the idea that older men should impregnate younger women/girls. The whole suggestion is just boomeresque “they don’t make them like they used to” bullshit bragging. They’re fading and they need a boost to their fragile egos to make them feel like they still have value and virility and can argue for what they want to do anyway (perv on younger women/girls, much like Trump).
So, has RFK Jr been doing the sampling himself?
I also wonder if this is some kind of veiled jab at trans women, whose sperm count drops when they’re on HRT. It would be typical of the Orange Felon and his Confederacy of Sewer Clowns to do something like that.
Tangent: Maculinity in general
Going of on a tangent – does anyone else have the impression that the promoters of hypermasculinity and all that alpha male crap never provide any actual arguments in favor of their basic starting assumptions?
They always assert that men should all be “alpha males”, and never “beta males”, and that more masculinity is always better, but they never provide any arguments whatsoever in favor of those ideas. They go on and on about how they’re oh-so-manly men and about how one of the defining traits of men is supposedly being rational rather than emotional, but they never even try to argue rationally. All they have is emotional appeals to an emotional preference for hypermasculinity.
Really, why would any self-respecting man want to be a poorly behaved eleven-year-old boy in the body of an adult? Because that’s what today’s self-described “alpha males” usually are. Every functioning society and pretty much all the things that make life worth living are based on building and creating things. Today’s self-described “alpha males”, on the other hand, are only good at destroying things others have built or created.
The only perhaps somewhat convincing reason why you might want to be an “alpha male” if you’re male is that, if you’re straight, it’ll make you more attractive to the kind of woman who’s into “alpha males”. But, well, aren’t there more important things in life than getting laid? Like, for instance, to avoid being a worthless, repulsive, destructive, harmful, ignorant, aggressively stupid, cruel, and ultimately fairly pathetic scumbag?
And, as Timothy says, the whole idea of what masculinity is all about seems to have changed for the even worse recently. For instance, it used to be that building and making and creating things were seen as typically masculine. All that stuff about men being into craft work, for instance. But among today’s self-described hypermasculine “alpha males”, there are very few who would try to proof their manhood by posting a video of themselves, say, making a table on Youtube. They’re a lot more likely to try to proof their manhood by posting a video of themselves destroying a table. And you can’t keep a civilization going for long if half of all people think that the most important thing in their lives is that they have to be a lot into destroying things.
Another example: It used to be that being a man was seen as, to a large extent, about protecting women and children. Now, you might find that attitude problematic and condescending in all kinds of ways. But in any case, the whole idea doesn’t seem to have much prominence any more. These days, if a man tries to take a protective attitude towards women and children, supporters of hypermasculinity will usually accuse him of “white knighting”, and see him as a contemptible “beta male” as a result. Today’s self-described hypermasculine “alpha males” aren’t the slightest bit interested in protecting women and children – they’re usually proud of being the kind of person who’s the main reason why women and children might need protection in the first place.
All that said, while RFK Jr. and his boss do agree on the whole hypermasculinity bullshit, I can still imagine some kind of rift developing between them in the future. Why? Well, RFK Jr. does, of course, say and do and promote things that are very bad for people’s health all the time. But by his own very dim lights he’s still a health nut. Donald Trump clearly isn’t. It might be fun if RFK Jr. would, at some point in the future, try to ban well-done steaks washed down with coke or something, and Trump would be unhappy about that.
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“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior ‘righteous indignation’ — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”
— Aldous Huxley
It’s about being an asshole and calling it “gender roles”.
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I always get a laugh from people who use “alpha males” in an unironic way to say that they are masculine. The truth is that it’s like saying “I’m a mentally unstable and socially broken wolf that will fight my brethren for no reason other than being stressed out” since the concept of alpha males originates from a deeply flawed and discredited study of wolves in captivity.
In reality, wolves are social creatures with deep familial bonds and structure.
“Masculofascism”? You left out something–here, let me fix it for you: masculopedofascism… hmmm, maybe pedomasculofascism sounds better (flows more trippingly off the tongue).
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Pretty sure there’s already a word for that, ‘republican’.
Testosterone and IQ
I once saw a very interesting graph mapping the IQ of men on one axis and testosterone on the other. Regarding values in the graph, well let’s just say that I have no problem believing that both JFK and Drumpf has got lots of testosterone…
I'm not surprised at all
It makes perfect sense that RFK Jr would be interested in semen and sperm. Whenever I hear him talking about scientific subjects, I immediately think (jerk off gesture).
Does it mean we do not exist?
Please tell me Bobby, am I really alive? do we all live in a world where nobody exist? Have we all been connected to the Matrix recently? Have you smoking sometime new and funny lately? I need answers!
Conservatives clearly have a fixation on the sexuality of children. Good thing it’s only clinical interest…/s
This is only superficially about fertility of men in general, and unstated but very specifically about fertility of white men.
What is it with conservatives and bad math?
What does that mean? It means that at least 50% of the adult male population (well, it wouldn’t make a lot of sense if we included people in the statistics not expected to produce sperms) would not have a single sperm in their ejaculate.
While admittedly at least within the range of theoretical possibility in contrast to discounts of 1600% or more, it is not at all plausible.
Even if there were data…
When you jack off ten times a day, it is to be expected that a typical load may deliver a lower sperm count than an older person doing it twice a month.
RFKjr blather..
“our parents aren’t having children.”
Chances are if your parents didn’t have children, neither will you… 🙂
GOP = genital observation perverts?
Why are the GOP and, it seems, the broader right-wing of American politics so clearly OBSESSED with people’s genitals?
Afterthought
An afterthought: What’s supposed to be so bad about lower sperm counts, anyway? If I remember my sex education classes correctly*, an egg cell is usually fertilized by one sperm cell. That’s all. So a reduction in sperm count from many millions to a few millions should still leave more than enough to do the job.
OK, perhaps the chance of one specific instance of sex leading to conception might be reduced. But I don’t really see how having to have sex a bit more often to have the same number of babies would be a bad thing.
And perhaps it might reduce the risk of accidents during those sexual encounters that aren’t intended to make babies. Which sounds like a good thing to me.
*Ah, that might be the problem. Of course right-wingers might be deeply distrustful of all that newfangled perverted sciency stuff taught in sex education classes.
Instance #747,638,735,922 of the GOP proving they’re the groomers they accuse us of being. Creepy fucking weirdos, one and all.
*slaps forehead* I can’t believe that neither I in either of my two previous comments nor anyone else here has made a snarky remark about Our Precious Bodily Fluids yet.
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It’s why i only drink pure grain alcohol and distilled water. i don’t dislike women, i merely deny them my essence.
tenet
now what about quality?
sperm count down + motility down = trouble, if it’s true.
sperm count down + motility up = efficiency.
RFK reminds me of that telomeres guy. “I’m more virile than younger men! It’s only rational for teenage girls to have sex with me!”
'Checking for low sperm count', suuuure...
Out of all the groups, parties or in this case cults I would not trust near the genitals of young teenagers…
Real Men...
It used to be that if you wanted to be a real man, you didn’t eat quiche.
In that same book, she argued that the median sperm count would reach null in 25 years.
Not possible mathematically. The median is the observation in the middle when rank ordered. That means half below and have above. The only way to have a zero median is 1) to have negative observations or 2) for all the observations to be zero.
Deadhead Kennedy takes weirdness to a whole new level.
The GOP just wants to remind its base that they see men.
The planet is grossly overpopulated with humans. Anything that gets the population down is good. Fortunately, fertility rates are falling almost everywhere. We should encourage reduced fertility and make up the loss by importing strong young immigrant workers, even if they’re brown skinned. The notion that they will destroy our culture is just nonsense.
I’ve lived in California all my life, totally blonde blue eyed Anglo here, where Hispanic culture is just part of everyday life. Piñata’s at birthday parties, restaurants with Mexican food, what the hell is the problem, everything is cool and fun and if you don’t like it, you can just ignore it and go to the Thai restaurant instead right next door.
Hispanics are vital to the agriculture and construction industries. That’s just food and housing, we can do without it, right? Are they worried kids will learn Spanish? An educated person should know at least two languages and Spanish is one of the easiest for an English speaker to tackle.
Okay I’m not a fan of Hispanic music. That stupid polka music. However Herb Alpert is pretty cool and mariachi bands in restaurants are nice.
“Tenet of fascism” not “tenant of fascism
our parents aren’t having children
What. The fuck. Even.