Trump Administration Says It’s Going To Start Locking Up Homeless People

from the he's-no-Reagan-but-I-bet-Jodie-Foster-would-be-impressed-anyway dept

We’ve finally got a Stalin to call our own. Just like Soviet Russia, homelessness is now basically a criminal offense, thanks to Trump’s latest executive order, which pretends it’s about crime but actually just wants to put homelessness people in places where other Americans won’t be inconvenienced by them.

Like most Trump executive orders, it’s got Orwell all over it:

“Ending Crime And Disorder On America’s Streets”

What’s the crime and disorder so troubling it needs yet another executive order that further expands the power of US law enforcement past the troubling amount it already possesses? Tough to say, since it’s the president saying it, and he’s never been great with words. Even with ghostwriters, this is barely coherent:

Endemic vagrancy, disorderly behavior, sudden confrontations, and violent attacks have made our cities unsafe.  The number of individuals living on the streets in the United States on a single night during the last year of the previous administration — 274,224 — was the highest ever recorded.  The overwhelming majority of these individuals are addicted to drugs, have a mental health condition, or both.  Nearly two-thirds of homeless individuals report having regularly used hard drugs like methamphetamines, cocaine, or opioids in their lifetimes.  An equally large share of homeless individuals reported suffering from mental health conditions.  The Federal Government and the States have spent tens of billions of dollars on failed programs that address homelessness but not its root causes, leaving other citizens vulnerable to public safety threats.

Yep. Drink that all in. DID YOU VOTE FOR THIS, REGRETFUL TRUMP VOTERS?

The first sentence does a lot of conflation in service of the ultimate goal. It also does the usual bloodlust thing where it pretends US crime rates are the worst they’ve ever been while not-so-slyly insinuating the (made-up) crime problem is the result of too much compassion towards the less-fortunate.

The conflation is followed by stats that aren’t supported by any citations. And that’s followed by two compounded assertions (again, without citations to supporting facts) that most homeless people are both (1) addicted to hard drugs, and (2) suffering from mental health conditions.

The final claim is the lousiest, at least in this context. Trump claims the government has wasted billions of dollars trying to “address” homelessness while never bothering to examine the root causes. Trump expects you to just sort of ride that wave of bullshit into the next paragraph — one that reveals Trump will also spend billions of dollars without addressing the root causes of homelessness!

Brace yourself. It gets ugly almost immediately.

Shifting homeless individuals into long-term institutional settings for humane treatment through the appropriate use of civil commitment will restore public order.  Surrendering our cities and citizens to disorder and fear is neither compassionate to the homeless nor other citizens.  My Administration will take a new approach focused on protecting public safety.

Hell yeah, we’re bringing back involuntary commitment! (Maybe the draft will be next!) It’s time to exhume John Kellogg and see if he can’t enema the homelessness out of the homeless. Or, more likely, we’ll just see whether it’s possible to torture the homeless out of people in federal institutions that are only indistinguishable from prisons by the orderlies’ willingness to be even more inhumane than the average screw.

It’s clear Trump prefers the indefinite discomfort of the unhoused to the momentary “disorder and fear” he claims routinely bother citizens who actually have houses and acceptable levels of substance abuse. It’s unclear where all of these unhoused people will be forcibly housed because the man who laid the groundwork for this hateful brand of conservatism basically burned that system to the ground during his eight years in office.

(Trust me, there are also a lot of eugenics enthusiasts behind this resurrection of forcible commitment because throwing “subpar” humans into inhumane circumstances has always put the lead in their pencil. This administration has no shortage of people with a head full of bad wiring willing to push people out the Overton window for the next four years, knowing there’s a pardon in their future if they happen to go a bit too Special-K during this particular purge.)

First against the wall en route to the padded room:

(i)    enforce prohibitions on open illicit drug use;

(ii)   enforce prohibitions on urban camping and loitering;

(iii)  enforce prohibitions on urban squatting;

Legalize weed all you want but it’s still a federal crime, so get used to being abused, pot smokers who look possibly unable to pay rent. As to anyone else not fortunate enough to have a roof over your head, you’ll soon have one, even though it won’t actually be anyplace anyone would willingly call “home.”

This is just ground work, which is ghastly considering how awful it already is. There’s an undercurrent that suggests anyone not living in the way the Trump government wants them to probably has mental health issues. Nothing in this order suggests the erection of affordable multi-family housing might reduce homelessness. Nothing in the order suggests expanding the social service safety net might prevent more people from becoming homeless. That vacuum is instead filled with presumptions about the inherent dangerousness of homeless people, which allows the administration to justify them being detained en masse and tossed into whatever federal institution is still semi-operable.

The only mention of funds being allocated are directed solely towards”removal” efforts targeting homeless people. The only mention of addressing mental health issues is a series of restrictions that threaten to remove even more funding from existing social programs if they can’t demonstrate (using getting-set-up-for-failure metrics) what they do actually reduces homelessness.

Most specifically, the administration says there will be no additional funds allocated for actually providing housing for people currently without homes.

These actions shall include, to the extent permitted by law, ending support for “housing first” policies that deprioritize accountability and fail to promote treatment, recovery, and self-sufficiency.

“Pull yourself up by your bootstraps,” says the Trump administration, which first takes your boots because you’re probably just using them to stash drugs and then your bootstraps because you might try to hang yourself with them.

Now that Trump has decided it’s okay to lock up the homeless for being homeless while pretending it’s all about providing (forcibly applied) mental health care, it’s only a matter of time before he moves on to the rest of the people he thinks are sick in the head, ranging from transgender people seeking psychiatric assistance to political opponents he routinely publicly disparages as insane, stupid, or otherwise mentally deficient.

This is undiluted evil from an administration that’s no longer even willing to pretend its ultimate goal is to secure their existence and a future for whatever children are considered white enough to be given an opportunity to thrive in the former Land of the Free — a downhill slope greased with the blood of the less fortunate, overseen by an administration that is nothing more than a bunch of greasy, overfed thumbs pressing down on the scales of justice.

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Anonymous Coward says:

We have so many ICE agents on the streets. I’m just going to label them all “homeless” (why else would they be out there making our cities unsafe, and causing fear.). Now lets take them all to a nice place where they can get the “assistance” they surely need.

/s

Does not quite fit the situation, but surprisingly close.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Hell yeah, we’re bringing back involuntary commitment!

Did it ever really go away? Some court cases said it couldn’t be done for people who weren’t a danger to themselves or others; but, as far as I know, those who are a danger can still be committed. (I assume the Trump regime will ignore those court cases when committing non-dangerous people, and that this will cost many times more than simply giving homeless people homes they’re allowed to leave.)

(Maybe the draft will be next!)

I’m not American, but I was under the impression that males were still required to register for it—and to report for involuntary servitude if ordered to. It traumatized an entire generation around 1970, and is a continuing cause of homelessless.

hcunn (profile) says:

Re: The draft-- involuntary, but not "servitude"

involuntary servitude

The military draft is involuntary, but the drafters and ratifiers of the Thirteenth Amendment did not consider it to have the inferior status of “servitude.” Most of them supported the draft that Abraham Lincoln used to win the Civil War.

Three generations earlier, the framers of the Constitution gave Congress the power to “raise [and support] armies.” They built on the experience of States who sometimes drafted men into local militias to meet emergencies.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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not explicitly a federal crime to be homeless

Except if all homeless persons are drugs dealers, crackheads and dangerous criminals, which this executive order implies, just as all Latinos are all gang members and terrorists.
Need any proof? Just ask Fox News for it.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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As long as it’s not explicitly a federal crime to be homeless, not sure how any institution can act on any of this (legally).

There’s a book called “Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent”. Even if it’s not a crime per se to be homeless, homeless people probably do commit crimes unintentionally. Disobeying a “no camping” sign in a public park could technically be trespassing. Dumpster diving is, apparently, considered larceny is some states. Panhandling in a public roadway is probably an OSHA violation, and could be classified as a person being a danger to themself (thereby meeting the standard for involuntary commitment).

Anomalous Cowherd says:

This again?

I’m so old that I remember when Reagan defunded assisted-living programs for people with significant issues who required support to work and manage their own lives with dignity. Over the next three to five years we saw the prison population increase by roughly the same numbers. I doubt that this will work out differently- take away support from people struggling to live and you create another problem.

Unconscience (profile) says:

Giving homeless people shelter and food is literally socialism...

Feeding and sheltering the homeless on the public dime is literally socialism. Trying to criminalize them will swamp the court system to death and be ineffective.

Trump is purely transactional, so my guess is the privatized prison lobby bribed him so they can take taxpayer money to fund this.

GOP – Pinko commies when we wanna be!

Anonymous Coward says:

Of course, don’t fund the perpetually underfunded assistance programs, or even suggest North American zoning laws (and our subservience to our automotive overlords) might be part of the problem. Nope, we’ll imprison people at 10 times the cost in a carcereal system where they will fare even worse.

Yeah this is just more 1930s US or German behavior we all love so much.

That One Guy (profile) says:

'We need a lasting solution to the homeless problem. A final solution if you will...'

With how empathy is considered a ‘weakness’/’sin’ by these ghouls I’ve no doubt that collecting a bunch of homeless and anyone that looks homeless at the time they’re grabbed(because the regime isn’t great at accuracy or caring about it) has nothing to do with ‘fixing’ the homeless problem and everything to do with getting a nice bunch of people together to torment and/or use as slave labor.

bobqoq says:

This is prepping for the next phase of America. After the tariffs and funding cuts to safety net programs kick in, more people will be homeless.

To prevent that from becoming a problem. The trump admin is going remove the poor from view and mind. Now they can say, “Look how great we are doing. There are no more homeless thanks to my policies.”

Just like he wanted to stop testing so that the number of covid cases would decrease.

His admin doesn’t want to address the hard problems, he wants to sweep it under a rug and say it doesnt exist anymore.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

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Beyond all your bullshit, you’re also ignoring that Trump is going far beyond what you’re advocating for. He’s talking about imprisoning them and not getting them rehab. He’s talking about brutalizing them with masked federal officers who will abduct them and deny them due process and hold them against their will despite a lack of warrants or convictions. He’s talking about embracing fascism and you pretend it’s just an innocent bit of nimbyism as cover. Thank you, Lord Haw Haw. Your services aren’t needed.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re:

On a long enough timeline, Trump⁠—at the urging of eugenicist assholes like Stephen Miller and RFK Jr.⁠—will direct “his people” to start executing the homeless as a means of culling the “surplus population” and getting rid of “lazy eaters”. It’s far less a matter of “if” and far more a matter of “when” at this point.

And people like Koby will cheer it on without a hint of irony because that’s what unfeeling, uncaring, heartless sociopathic assholes do.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Here’s the article you cherry-picked to push your bigotry:

SACRAMENTO — As part of California’s ambitious push to tackle the nationwide homelessness crisis head-on, Governor Gavin Newsom released a model ordinance for cities and counties to address unhealthy and dangerous encampments. The Governor is calling on every local government to adopt and implement local policies without delay, backed by billions in state funding and authority affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court last year. The model ordinance follows and builds on the Governor’s 2024 executive order, which urged all local jurisdictions to quickly address encampments and use state and local funding to connect people experiencing homelessness with the care and support they need.

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Anonymous Coward says:

True story: I was chatting with an acquaintance at a bar and they said they didn’t like seeing that homeless opiate addicted vet while she walked through NYC. That they made her uncomfortable.

I said “yeah ‘K’, its awful to see. You know he probably lost his legs after signing up to defend freedom fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan right? And the opiate addiction he has was prescribed by his superior officers and the VA, backed by big pharmaceutical vis a vis the Sacklers, right? Only to cut him off after hooking him on extra strength heroin, and how much does a closet apartment cost in NYC again? right? What a way to treat a veteran; its disgusting.”

She spoke like none of it had ever occurred to her before…

Homelessness issues are ENDEMIC of larger societal problems. They are a symptom not a disease.

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Koby (profile) says:

Even San Francisco has become NIMBY after hopping over needles and turds on the sidewalk for the past ten years.

It is not compassionate to leave these people out on the street. Hardcore drugs are too addicting and too debilitating, such that the users prefer to remain homeless so that they can continue to shoot up, rather than choose to be in a shelter without drugs and with treatment. Involuntary rehab is not inhumane for those who can’t take care of themselves at a basic level.

ECA (profile) says:

Where is the problem?

“The number of individuals living on the streets in the United States on a single night during the last year of the previous administration — 274,224 ”

Lets do REAL basic math here. Most of what is said is a STATE problem, Not Federal. And the Fun part of this, is 2 states Found a solution. LOW income housing, to get them OFF the streets, and then Monitor those persons.
Place a person in Jail and its Costs, Min $40,000 per year. Give them money and you dont know where its going and the paper work is HELL. Give them a Place to sleep and eat, and CLEAN up.. And most of them DO.

With State and Fed Low income housing(PROPERLY MANAGED) and not costing the State $1000 per month per room/home/? Even at $1000 per month Rent/food/water/electric, $12,000 per year? Is still Cheaper then In Prison or JAIL, as they are Private companies MAKING TONS of money.

Anonymous Coward says:

Can always count on the press to be way behind the curve.

This was already happening for decades, even centuries in your “land of the free” kids.

But you didn’t want to acknowledge it until the leader of that “land of the free” became a mentally incompetent, raging narcissistic shitbird and you stopped watching the “we’re number one” propaganda because his spray-tan shit-smeared face is plastered all of it now.

The real question is are you going to stay awake when he’s finally gone? Or will it be back to “god’s in his heaven — all’s right with the country” like usual?

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

Ninja wants to call it the 4th Reich (which I wouldn’t be opposed to personally) but I don’t see you all up in their ass about it

Just like I’ve mentioned referring to the concentration camp in Florida as the Dade-Collier Concentration Camp (which I’ve also done several times) instead of its actual name or its well-known nickname, Ninja isn’t demanding that other people use “the Fourth Reich” in reference to the Trump administration/regime/clown show. But the asshole in the OP of this particular thread has been doing this “I’m right and you’re wrong and you need to use my terminology” schtick to Tim Cushing⁠—and only Tim Cushing⁠—for weeks. That bit of parasocial weirdness aside: Demanding other people use your preferred terminology because you deem your terminology to be objectively “correct”, regardless of whether you have the power to back up that demand, reeks of unearned self-importance. To quote one of Tim’s own comments, which was directed to that same asshole in the OP (who I’m pretty sure is also you, the AC to whom I’m replying right now): GTFO with your personal bitchassness.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Just like I’ve mentioned referring to the concentration camp in Florida as the Dade-Collier Concentration Camp (which I’ve also done several times) instead of its actual name or its well-known nickname, Ninja isn’t demanding that other people use “the Fourth Reich” in reference to the Trump administration/regime/clown show.

But you do insist that no one call the new “detention center” “Alligator Auschwitz” either despite it being in line with your preferred name for it. You’re not exactly in any position to point out the redness of others’ eyes if you won’t sort the conjunctivitis in your own.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

But you do insist that no one call the new “detention center” “Alligator Auschwitz” either

No, I don’t. While I believe using that name is a bad idea because it plays into the hands of the fascists who came up with it, I’m not out here demanding that people refer to the Dade-Collier Concentration Camp only by that specific name. I suggested once that people use “Dade-Collier Concentration Camp” as a more appropriate (and accurate) term. I’ve used that particular name in several comments since then. But not once did I ever demand that anyone else use that name, and not once have I ever acted like my preference is an objective truth to which all must adhere.

The asshole in this thread’s OP, on the other hand, has been demanding over and over that Tim Cushing (and only Tim Cushing, obviously for weird-ass parasocial reasons) use “regime” when referring to the Trump administration. They flat-out said that their terminology is “correct”, which implies that their preference is objective truth. And they’ve done this for weeks, obviously with the goal of annoying Tim into changing his verbiage for the comfort of that one weirdo.

Next time you talk about glass houses and stones, maybe consider that I’ve taken great pains not to do what assholes like the OP does because I don’t want to be that much of an asshole. Like, there are limits to my bitchassness, and demanding people write/talk the way I want them to talk is a line I try not to cross. I’ll suggest better terminology and proper spelling/pronounciation, and I’ll rail against deadnaming all the live-long day, but I have neither the power, the authority, nor the will to force anyone to write/talk like I want them to. Hell, I know people who pronounce the word “genre” like it has a “d” in the middle, but I don’t correct them because they’re close enough to the actual pronounciation and I don’t want to come off as an “I’m better than you because I can pronounce that word correctly” kind of asshole.

If you want to refer to the Trump administration as a regime or a circus, that’s your call. If you want to refer to the Dade-Collier Concentration Camp as “Alligator Alcatraz”, still your call. But having a preference doesn’t give you the right to force that preference onto anyone else. I can understand that and live with that. Why can’t the weird-ass OP do the same?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

I see you’re still too eager to reply and declaim how right you are that you aren’t bothering to read the words people are putting down, and this is twice now you have made this specific reading error.

Let me highlight this for you so it is unmistakable even to you:

“Auschwitz” and “Alcatraz” are two different words.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

I’m well aware of that. My point still stands: Referring to the Dade-Collier Concentration Camp as “Alligator [Anything]” plays into the hands of the fascists who gave it the original nickname, which is why I prefer to use the name “Dade-Collier Concentration Camp” and encourage others to do the same. Nobody else is obligated to follow my preference, and I have no power to make anyone follow my preference. Alls I can do is explain why I use the phrasing I use, encourage others to do the same, and hope other people see things my way. And that’s exactly what I’ve done. Do you see me replying only with “Dade-Collier Concentration Camp.” on any comment or article that uses “Alligator Alcatraz”, “Alligator Auschwitz”, or any other variant thereof as if the person who used that name must use my preferred language? Because I haven’t done that and I have no plans to do that.

Now explain to me why Tim Cushing should⁠—nay, must!⁠—use the word “regime” in reference to the Trump administration and what possible consequences await him if he continues to refuse that demand. I’LL FUCKING WAIT.

Anonymous Coward says:

Jail, not bail: let them lock up every homeless the way they tried to with every civil rights protestor. Gets very expensive very fast.

BTW, if a homeless person presents to an ER as suicidal they have to care for them. Not sure how homelessness is a “disease” requiring “treatment” or what to do when someone is old and sick or just poor but hey we all need to kick down somewhere.

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Astrochicken says:

Property ownership

I think you need to point out the elephant in the room here. Housing prices in the U.S. are high because the system allows private landlords to buy everything up. If you want to fix housing prices, ban private landlords. Otherwise, no matter what you do to build more affordable housing, they’ll just buy up property at the same speed, and the same problem will continue.

Bobson Dugnutt (profile) says:

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Public landlords will be their own kind of awful. We have housing projects in the U.S. and their butcher’s bills.

Or, take Singapore, where 85% of property is publicly owned. It’s extremely land constrained, and to get some of that publicly owned housing requires entering a long waitlist and be subject to a heavyhanded paternalism most Westerners have no patience for.

The U.S. is kind of emulating Singapore by slouching toward Gilead. The places in the U.S. that lead with population growth and new-home purchases are largely in the South and Texas. These are also the places with the most restrictions on abortions, and the Dobbs decision is just the start to restrictions on family planning, and now porn, and in due time interracial and non-man+woman marriage.

High population growth is also making these areas more Republican, so many Americans who move to the Sunbelt are trading their reproductive freedoms for property ownership.

As a postscript, I don’t write this to justify Republican orthodoxy. One of them will bound to come along and make this same argument as a sincere intent of their belief.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Or, take Singapore, where 85% of property is publicly owned. It’s extremely land constrained, and to get some of that publicly owned housing requires entering a long waitlist and be subject to a heavyhanded paternalism most Westerners have no patience for.

At least I can eat curry in Singapore. Over here, curries frequently contain milk, but I’m dairy intolerant, whereas dishes such as beef rendang contain coconut milk instead.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Your understanding of the world is so poor I have to ask, are you a literal child?

Because you seem to think that landlords just buy up properties to sit on them. When in reality by definition they rent them out. You act like renters flat out don’t exist. Just like somebody who has only lived in cushy parent owned housing and been insulated from the realities of real estate and affording a downpayment calling for large savings they may not even have. Not to mention the pathetic supply and demand denialist handwave that assumes private landlords have infinite wealth and first dibs on all property. Which also forgets that private investment is literally why most houses are built in the first place! Bespoke housing directly built for the end homeowner is more expensive, like all decommoditizations.

Banning private landlords would just lock people in place because they lack credit or capital to buy a home outright.

post script says:

Extract every penny they can from the poorest people in the country since the billionaires don’t own every last cent yet. Ensure there’s a precariat to push into poverty and homelessness. Criminalize homelessness, throw them into slave labor concentration camps and make them work for free.
Ensure themselves a healthy profit while destroying citizens.

Bobson Dugnutt (profile) says:

Re:

The hitch in that plan is that the vaunted American work ethic is vastly overrated.

Even the Trump-aligned factory owner who hired the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio, wanted immigration policy changed so that he could hire more Haitians because they do the work.

In Springfield, Haitians are laying pipe while Americans are smoking pipe.

Molson Hart, yes that’s his real name and he’s owned factories, said this about why America’s goal of making manufacturing great again is quixotic:

Chinese manufacturing labor isn’t just cheaper. It’s better.
In China, there are no people who are too fat to work. The workers don’t storm off midshift, never to return to their job. You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.
Chinese workers are much less likely to physically attack each other and their manager. They don’t take 30 minute bathroom breaks on company time. They don’t often quit because their out-of-state mother of their children discovered their new job and now receives 60% of their wages as child support. They don’t disappear because they’ve gone on meth benders. And they don’t fall asleep on a box midshift because their pay from yesterday got converted into pills.
And they can do their times tables. To manufacture, you need to be able to consistently and accurately multiply 7 times 9 and read in English, and a disturbingly large portion of the American workforce cannot do that.

An American factory owner talking about America’s working class.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

“You don’t have people who insist on being paid in cash so that they can keep their disability payments, while they do acrobatics on the factory floor that the non-disabled workers cannot do.”

Because autism and ADHD aren’t disabilities that don’t impact able-bodiedness, right? That factory owner’s a fucking bigot.

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