US Marines Witnessed Detaining A US Citizen In Los Angeles
from the kicking-out-the-glass-in-the-Overton-Window dept
As Mike Masnick noted late last week while covering yet another extremely disturbing development in the ongoing horror show that is our current government, the Trump Administration isn’t fucking around. It wants to destroy America so it can have the only kind of America it’s willing to put up with: one it can rule, rather than lead.
When a federal official can announce that military forces will remain in American cities until democratically elected leaders are removed, then violently detain a Senator for asking questions about it, constitutional government has effectively ended. This isn’t creeping authoritarianism—it’s the active dismantling of democratic institutions in real time.
That federal official was DHS Secretary Kristi Noem. The democratically elected person who was violently detained for daring to interrupt Noem’s self-glorifying press conference was Senator Alex Padilla from California, who is the ranking member of a Senate subcommittee that directly oversees the DHS.
The authoritarianism isn’t creeping. It’s everywhere. But its primary focus right now is California.
First, Trump violated the law by commandeering National Guard forces that are supposed to be left to the discretion of the state they serve. In this case, 2,000 California National Guard members were sent to Los Angeles for extremely vague reasons. Unlike the massive rioting that occurred in 1992, the anti-mass deportation protests in California have been mostly peaceful with anything resembling a riot contained to a very small part of downtown Los Angeles.
Despite the lack of widespread violence and destruction, the Defense Department added 700 Marines to the mix, escalating this past the illegal hijacking of California’s National Guard (without the permission or request of the state of California) to the direct deployment of the US soldiers to help police protests that local law enforcement appeared to have pretty much fully contained without outside intervention.
That extra step is hugely problematic, especially if Marines start pitching in with law enforcement work — something they’re explicitly forbidden from doing. And yet, here they are, doing cop work for cops, something captured on video and (unbelievably) confirmed by the Defense Department:
The official confirmation that US Marines are detaining people in Los Angeles was obtained by Reuters.
Asked about the incident, the U.S. military’s Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces “may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances.”
“Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel,” a spokesperson said.
Another photo posted at Reuters shows the man’s hands are zip-tied behind him while a Marine restrains him by holding his shoulder. The ugly irony is that the man detained by Trump’s martial law trial run is an Army veteran who obtained his US citizenship via military service and was only trying to access services at the local Department of Veterans Affairs office.
Sure, this may seem like a small thing. But only if this is the only thing you see. Trump and DoD head Pete Hegseth have sent military members to the streets of Los Angeles. Administration officials have affirmatively stated there’s no end date for this mini-occupation and have actually said OUT LOUD that the ultimate goal is to remove elected leaders that disagree with them and their efforts.
This is a direct quote of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, taken from the press conference where she stood idly by as a US senator was grabbed by armed officers and thrown to the ground:
We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into this city.
Sure, there may be a bit of performative hyperbole thrown in there. And, given that this is coming from a person who doesn’t know the definition of habeas corpus, there’s also the possibility Noem doesn’t understand some of the larger words she used during this press conference.
But make no mistake about it: if the Trump Administration thinks it can get away with a full military occupation of Los Angeles, it definitely will attempt to do it. What’s happening now is the administration testing the waters while manufacturing the provocations it needs to move forward with the next step. Shrug this isolated instance off if you dare. It’s not going to remain an anomaly for long, not when most of the Republican party is actively cheering on the use of military force against their fellow citizens.
Filed Under: dhs, donald trump, fascism, ice, marines, martial law, mass deportation, national guard


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Still Standing
Update: Today 6/20 a three judge panel of the Ninth Circuit court of appeals unanimously voted to leave control of the National Guard in federal hands, including one judge appointed by Biden.
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Do you not have anything better to do with your time?
I have an idea, why don’t you fuck off into the Sun.
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You’re lying again, Koward. They ruled to extend the pause on the previous Breyer ruling while Newsom proceeds with his lawsuit against the administration.
Moreover, they said that the ruling is specifically regarding whether Trump acted within his authority. So Newsom can still challenge how the troops are being used.
And while the ruling was unanimous, it’s not as rock-solid as you make it sound:
Trump probably acted within his authority, the panel said, adding that his administration probably complied with the requirement to coordinate with Governor Gavin Newsom, and even if it did not, he had no authority to veto Trump’s directive.
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The law sets out three conditions by which a president can federalize state National Guard forces, including an invasion, a “rebellion or danger of a rebellion” against the government or a situation in which the U.S. government is unable with regular forces to execute the country’s laws.
The appeals court said the final condition had probably been met because protesters hurled items at immigration authorities’ vehicles, used trash dumpster as battering rams, threw Molotov cocktails and vandalized property, frustrating law enforcement.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-court-lets-trump-retain-control-california-national-guard-now-2025-06-20/
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Yes, and it seems the “danger of a rebellion against the government” (i.e. against ICE) is the one the government want to go for.
As for Gavin Newsom, as you’ve stated, it’s yet another story.
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Oh so obviously everything is perfectly fine.
Go fuck yourself, bootlicker. Since you magats hate America so much why don’t you leave and leave us alone?
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We’re aware the judiciary has been compromised, thanks.
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You should pop into the Salt Typhoon thread to remind everyone you voted to turn over our infrastructure to adversaries.
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All three branches of government being illegitimate isn’t the win you think it is. It just means we have to start looking outside the legal system if we want justice.
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Please keep in mind that Koby is here to troll. Koby does not engage in good faith.
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It’s highly telling that you came here to say “it’s not been ruled illegal yet” instead of decrying the behavior itself, which is horrific regardless of whether a corrupted justice system has failed to stop it or not.
“It wasn’t illegal to turn Anne Frank over to the Nazis…”
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Let’s be honest here. If Koby were to time travel to the 1940s, it would be so that he could personally turn Anne Frank over to the Nazis.
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He’s probably even done the research to find out exactly where the building is just so he can tell a Nazi soldier, “There’s k***s hiding in the attic in there!”
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I hope you one day watch your family get raped and boot stomped by soldiers you dumb fuck
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Your name is Toby
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Your dads are never going to get back together.
Wanna know how this gets worse? Apparently, Kristi Noem is getting her marching orders from Fox News.
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Bluesky is too JS riddled to be legible, However it that because it’s the only source she’s able to “understand?
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Absurd
The appeals court upheld the deployment of the National Guard.
President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law in 2011. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision and allows for the detention of US citizens under certain circumstances. Temporarily detaining a US citizen for turnover to law enforcement under these circumstances is fine.
There is no VA office in that Federal building. It is primarily HUD and USCIS (immigration). The detained person was definitely not there for the reasons stated.
There was not one truthful word in this article.
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No, they extended a pause on a previous ruling. That’s not the same thing.
Those circumstances being:
the power to detain […] any person who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners”, and anyone who commits a “belligerent act” against the United States or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, “without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF]”.
None of that applies here, and if you think it does, you’re as constitutionally psychotic as Kristi Noem.
The website of the US General Services Administration says that you’re lying:
Primary tenants
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Veterans Affairs
U.S. Passport Agency
Sort out your own lying before accusing anyone else.
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Thank you for your facts that are disinfectant to Koward’s daily lies. I don’t even bother to check what lies he’s spewing lately, so I commend you for always fact checking him.
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If you cum rags didn’t lie in the most obvious way possible, it’s likely that someone, somewhere would respect you. Instead, the very people wearing the boot you’re deep throating despise you more than I do.
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I see that you have been stuck under a rock for the last two years. Perhaps it’s time you headed back.
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Do we get a free WhataboutObama with every proof of purchase or is like a points thing?
“Small thing” Yeah it’s still a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. Doesn’t matter how temporary; detaining a civilian (especially to hand them over to law enforcement) is a clear violation of the PCA.
'I was just following orders', take two
As always as monstrous as the regime is being do not give the military a pass here.
All the illegal orders in the world mean nothing if the military refused to comply with them, yet so far the US military both national guard and marines seem to be quite willing to occupy a US city under the direction of someone who has openly declared the regime’s intent to ‘liberate’ it from it’s current democratically elected officials, leaving them just as guilty and responsible for what has, is and will happen as the regime.
Re: just a little shade of gray
Unfortunately it is not as clear cut as we wish it would be.
As detailed in this youtube video, unless the order is very clearly illegal the soldier (and even a commissioned officier) doesn’t have much recourse but to follow the order or they take a lot of risk upon themselves.
Unfortunately trump is acting in an area that is still a little more gray than most people believe it should be. Personally, I look and see a pretty cut and dried matter that what trump is doing is illegal. But legally it isn’t at this moment cut and dry because the courts might still go either way based on whatever lies the executive branch says in court.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA&pp=ygUKbGVnYWxlYWdsZQ%3D%3D
Re: Re: 'Yes we are literally occupying a US city, and our boss said to 'liberate' it but...'
Yeah I don’t hold any respect for the last group of soldiers who prioritized their jobs and personal well-being over the law or the public, that doesn’t change just because they’re US soldiers ‘just following orders’ this time around.
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To be clear, I believe there is a big difference in culpability and discretion to disobey orders between those at the top of the chain and those lower.
Hey soliders. If you are obeying these orders. I sincerely hope you get to watch your children murdered by other soliders when everything goes wrong.
Go fucking die you disgraceful anti american traitors.
Regime, not administration, Cushing. Stop softening your language.
None of you are going to even try to make them stop, so they’re allowed to do it.
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Whelp better get off that high horse and start doing shit bro.
1984
where’s the general that is suppose to over see the marine’s? he should be protesting the orders as a violation of the constitution! not putting on trump knee pads!
THERES ENOUGH TRESON GOING ON THAT WE WILL NEED TO CLEAR OUIT A FEW PRISONS OR BUILD MORE!
standard tort claim, does qualified immunity apply
Restraining and moving the person probably fit pretty well within standard intentional tort claims. On the face of it, if the disgraceful Marines can be identified, they should have some liability exposure both in tort and under S:1983.
I do not know of QI being extended to military fighting statecide against citizens, and Marines are supposedly trained
* not to commit tortious acts against civilians
* not to carry out war against the US
* to uphold the Constitution
The violation would seem clear cut enough that extending QI to cover the military on these facts might be a bit of a stretch.