Trump’s Anti-Deep State FBI Pick Kash Patel Got Swept Up By… Trump’s Deep State

from the licking-the-boots-that-are-stamping-on-their-faces dept

As a non-fan, non-supporter of Donald Trump, I don’t have much left after discovering a disturbing number of my fellow Americans prefer fascism to liberty. But I still have these things I will forever hold near and dear to my heart: schadenfreude and irony.

And, if you’re like me, you get both of these things here. Kash Patel — a man who managed to ascend the government ladder with alacrity thanks to his undying support of Donald Trump during his last presidential term — is currently Trump’s pick to head the FBI.

Not only is Patel a loyalist, he’s also one of those guys who thinks anything bad said about Trump by government officials must be the result of a pernicious “deep state” conspiracy. Here’s some recent reporting on Patel’s “deep state” hallucinations from the Washington Post.

Next week, Cassidy Hutchinson will turn 28. The New Jersey native graduated from Christopher Newport University in Virginia five years ago. She interned briefly on Capitol Hill before taking a job at the White House, earning a write-up in the college newspaper. She worked in the Trump administration for a little over two years.

This, according to Kash Patel, earns Hutchinson a spot as one of 60 “Members of the Executive Branch Deep State.” Should he be confirmed to run the FBI, as President-elect Donald Trump desires, Hutchinson and those 59 others could find that their stints as government employees, however brief, earned them federal criminal investigations. Not because they compromised the public trust, but because they ran afoul of Trump — or Patel.

Sixty people! All Deep Statists! Allegedly! Astoundingly, many of the people populating Patel’s “deep state” list worked for Trump during his first term but made the mistake of questioning moves made by Trump or (far more importantly) Patel during his meteoric rise through the government ranks thanks to his willingness to bend a knee, kiss the ring, lick the boot… whatever was needed to make Trump feel good and make Patel feel better about his future employment opportunities.

Not that this will change anything, as I’m sure both Patel and Trump will find some way to talk around this, but Patel was targeted by the “deep state” headed by Trump when Trump told the DOJ to go after journalists and their sources following a long string of unflattering leaks.

Targeting journalists and their sources was obviously a constitutional problem. But trying to locate the sources of leaks meant targeting government employees and officials too. And that meant Kash Patel was targeted, despite his constant obsequiousness.

An apparent leak investigation years ago that swept up Patel’s Google account information fueled some of his anger toward the Justice Department and FBI in recent years.

Last fall, Patel sued Trump’s prior top DOJ and FBI appointees, including Director Christopher Wray, for unfairly obtaining his data in 2017.

Subpoena paperwork that Patel made public in the lawsuit indicate Justice Department prosecutors working with a federal grand jury in Washington, DC, sought Patel’s Google and Google Voice records from an almost 20-month period in 2016 and 2017.

In his complaint, he says he learned five years after the subpoena that the Justice Department had sought his communications from Google.

Somehow, this act didn’t prevent Trump from picking Patel to head the FBI. And, also (somehow), it didn’t prevent Patel from accepting this offer, despite his apparent antipathy towards the FBI and DOJ. Maybe Patel thinks he can clean it up by heading it up. But that doesn’t explain why he feels no animosity towards the man who made this all happen: Donald Trump.

Trump and Patel aside, the more disturbing fact is what the Inspector General uncovered during the office’s investigation of these leak investigations. More damage was done to trust in the federal government and the First Amendment rights of journalists than to Kash Patel’s career hopes. This is from the summary of the IG’s report [PDF]:

[We] found that the Department complied with some but not all of the then applicable provisions of the News Media Policy in the compulsory process it issued. Specifically, as detailed above, we found that the Department failed to convene the News Media Review Committee to consider the authorization requests in the three investigations; the Department did not obtain the required DNI certification in one investigation and we were unable to determine whether the Department provided the DNI certification it obtained in another investigation to the Attorney General for his consideration; and the Department did not obtain the Attorney General’s express authorization for the NDOs in any of the three investigations.

Given the important interests at stake, we were troubled that these failures occurred, particularly given that only a few years had elapsed since the Department substantially overhauled its News Media Policy in 2014 and 2015 following serious criticisms concerning the Department’s efforts to obtain communications records of members of the news media. In our judgment, the Department’s deviation from its own requirements indicates a troubling disparity between, on the one hand, the regard expressed in Department policy for the role of the news media in American democracy and, on the other hand, the Department’s commitment to complying with the limits and requirements that it intended to safeguard that very role.

In other words, the DOJ promised to make changes after being caught doing this sort of thing during the Obama Administration. And changes were made, but no one in the FBI or DOJ felt compelled to respect the new rules. So, the same thing happened again, only under a president with a much more antagonistic relationship with the press, as well as a far more limited tolerance for leaks that generated negative press.

Everything old was new again. With Trump taking office again and the DOJ still having done little to right the wrongs of the past, it seems unlikely the next four years won’t generate more questionable investigations that threaten the rights and freedoms of journalists. And, if Trump gets his way, the FBI will be headed by someone who has shrugged off his own targeting by Trump’s DOJ (give or take a lawsuit) apparently in hopes of being hired by the same man who once considered him a threat to his presidency. And there’s no better loyalty that the loyalty of someone who’s already been under the thumb of the person he plans to serve. That person — Kash Patel — knows his place. And he knows exactly what he needs to do to use these same powers against anyone he or his ultimate employer feel just aren’t loyal enough.

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Nathan F (profile) says:

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What influence? My one vote that gets washed out in a sea of propagandized useful idiots and gerrymandering? I know, I’ll just make a multi-million dollar donation to the right politicians, as soon as I win the lottery…

I was speaking of Patel using his influence to change the laws if he was upset about them being used as they were written.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Have you considered:
* Writing to each of your government representatives on the issue? Your various local news reporters?
* Creating a web site, and publicizing it?
* Looking up, then participating in, a (non-violent) political action group?
* Talking to your friends and neighbors, asking them to do similar things?

Or is it all “FREEM!” for you?
… that’s “freedom”, without the “do”.

Anonymous Coward says:

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My representatives already know about the issues. I don’t have influence over every other representative who would need to care and vote the right way. Making one more website on the topic that won’t reach a large audience is a waste of effort. Political action without leverage is generally useless. I’m an introvert and I’m not interested in evangelizing to others. Money is what drives political action. I don’t have a lot.

Phoenix84 (profile) says:

Not Black & White

As a non-fan, non-supporter of Donald Trump, I don’t have much left after discovering a disturbing number of my fellow Americans prefer fascism to liberty

I’m not a fan of Trump either, and didn’t vote for him. However one thing I learned post-election is: I understand why people voted for him.

People aren’t voting for fascism, they are voting for someone who “gets” them. He’s promising to (or depending on how you look at it, has delivered on) fixing the issues that his demographic relate to: economy, immigration.

The democrats, nor most of the media, don’t get that. They never have, and that’s the problem.

The people went to someone who understands them (or at least appears to).

They don’t see (or care) about the rampant corruption his administration brings, they just see the results (or dream) he’s promised them. That’s good enough for them.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong. — H. L. Mencken

And too many voters will vote for the ‘neat’ and ‘plausible’, given in an authoritative tone, without bothering to consider the ‘wrong’.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yeah, Hitler “got” the German people in the 1930s also. They wanted an authoritarian leader who promised to hurt other people for their benefit. Ask all the dead German soldiers and the citizens of Dresden how that worked out. Ask all the Jewish people, gay people, and communists if they think they just didn’t understand the people who voted for fascism enough.

We understand Trump voters. But there’s a breaking point where you can’t appeal to them without engaging in false narratives and morally corrupt approaches. If “understanding” them means becoming like Trump, I’d rather lose.

Phoenix84 (profile) says:

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If “understanding” them means becoming like Trump, I’d rather lose.

And that’s why we’re in the predicament we’re in. I never said you had to become like him. I’m talking about learning the heart of the issues on the other side.
Attacking the people (as opposed to the politicians) doesn’t help anyone.

Immigration: The issue as I see it is there is far too much immigration allowed. Sure, I have no doubt there’s racism behind that, but what is clear is that the immigration level has significantly increased in the last 10 or so years. I’ve seen it in my own neighborhood.

We also have a housing problem. I don’t think we’d have as much of a housing problem if we had the same level of immigration we had 10+ years ago. Housing problems means more large parcel land is taken effectively by force (eminent domain) and used to build multi-family complexes on that same space. The right sees that as “immigrants are taking my property” since most of those land parcels are owned by conservative leaning people.

Economy: Trump gave tax breaks to middle class. Even if you don’t believe it, I’ve seen it on my own tax returns. Now with inflation being so bad, they want someone who has addressed that previously to fix it again.

Both sides make the argument “devil you know” or “lesser of two evils” – from their perspective.

So yeah, I get it. I don’t condone it, but I get it. Address those issues, and the democrats would get more support/votes.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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“Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man. You take a step toward him. He takes a step back. Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.” — A.R. Moxon

So, uh…

I never said you had to become like him. I’m talking about learning the heart of the issues on the other side.

…what is there left to learn? Republicans promise to inflict pain and suffering upon Repugnant Cultural Others; conservative voters elect Republicans based on the idea that such pain and suffering will never affect said voters on a personal level. This mindset is summed up in a single quote from a Trump supporter who was personally affected by the government shutdown in 2019: “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

The problems faced by conservative voters are, far more often than not, the same problems faced by liberal voters: high prices on consumer goods, systemic issues such as the shitty U.S. healthcare system, that sort of thing. The details may differ, but the broad strokes look alike. So what is there to understand about why people voted for Trump other than his promises to hurt undocumented immigrants, Democrat lawmakers, media outlets he doesn’t like, trans people, and “the Deep State” (among others) as the way to “Make America Great Again”? Because from where I sit, his fascistic promises are all he has.

A good chunk of people in this country don’t want to engage in governance⁠. They want to be ruled. I mean, how many conservatives use their Christianity, which is built on the myth of a singular almighty entity that is the ultimate arbiter of who deserves to live, as a way to justify shit like banning abortions or attacking trans people or trying to force their religion down everyone else’s throats? They want a God figure to rule them, to make all the tough calls, to decide everything above their pay grade so they don’t have to think⁠—and, most importantly, to decide who deserves to live and to die.

Trump voters want fascism. Even if they can’t (or won’t) articulate that position, the proof of their desire is in their vote. So tell me what I still need to understand about them.

Then tell me why they don’t need to the ones bridging divides with the people they believe Trump is “supposed to be hurting”.

Anonymous Coward says:

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The “heart of the issues on the other side” are simply racism and other xenophobia.

The RNC has never once offered any plan to help people afford housing. Their followers are motivated entirely by hatred of people who don’t look as much like them, not by fear of not having a place to live.

Your hippie bullshit here is exactly the the same thing democrats kept saying for years, insisting that we’d all “just get along” and “heal the soul of the nation.”

The only way your kind can so reliably repeat the same insanely idiotic mistakes is because you are actively trying to lose to the fascists.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Immigration: The issue as I see it is there is far too much immigration allowed.

The problem with immigration is that the wealthy use immigrants against others. The immigrants aren’t the problem there. It’s the wealthy. Reducing immigration won’t make the wealthy value you more or give you a bigger slice of their profits. They’ll just find another way to fuck you over. And you only hear about immigration being a problem from media sources that are funded by the wealthy who want to make you think the immigrants are the problem. They create the appearance of a problem and then use it as an excuse.

We also have a housing problem.

We have a wealthy people buying up all the excess housing and raising rent for renters and housing costs for buyers because housing is seen as investment and not a human right. You’re not going to see a relief of that under a conservative government. You’re going to see an expansion of that. You might even see a government subsidy of that.

Trump gave tax breaks to middle class.

Trump gave bigger, permanent tax cuts to the wealthy. And the middle class tax cuts are about to expire. That small bump you saw got absorbed with higher prices.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Kinda sounds like you latched onto propaganda as much as anything. Immigration is a red herring and pretty much always has been. A boogieman to scare the squares. The vast majority of people whining about open borders live nowhere near the border and have never seen an immigrant, illegal or otherwise. 8 strongly suspect even your “I’ve seen it in my own neighborhood” to be an exaggeration.

Further, we absolutely don’t have a housing problem. We have a home ownership problem. Thousands upon thousands of houses sit empty in this country.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: 'Yes my candidate promises to put puppies in blenders but he GETS me!'

People aren’t voting for fascism, they are voting for someone who “gets” them. He’s promising to (or depending on how you look at it, has delivered on) fixing the issues that his demographic relate to: economy, immigration.

Even if I believed that, and I don’t, his fascism wasn’t a deal breaker for them so ultimately they’re no different than those that voted for him because of the fascism.

That One Guy (profile) says:

They have ONE job

To be fair if convicted felon Trump limited his picks to only people who had expertise in the job and hadn’t faced legal troubles of one sort or another in the past that would probably disqualify most if not all of them.

All he cares about is if they know their place and understand that it’s to support and praise him no-matter what, anything else is just useless fluff.

David says:

What is the "Deep State"?

Trump’s obsession with the “Deep State” are state actors not under his control. You know, things that were called “checks and balances”, “separation of power” and similar in the days before Newspeak. Stuff that the Founding Fathers and their successors built into the system to make it robust against power grabs rather than having a “shallow state” under thorough control of a single person or faction.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Has anyone ever compiled a list of all the words rightwingers have drained of all nuance, context, and meaning– except meaning “my enemy”?
It’s almost like hating The Other is crucial to the ideology…

What’s the expression?
‘Progressives can live without conservatives,
but conservativism can’t live without progressives?’

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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What’s the expression? ‘Progressives can live without conservatives, but conservativism can’t live without progressives?’

I dunno if that’s an expression I’ve ever heard. But given how right-wingers keep throwing shitfits on Twitter over being effectively ignored on Bluesky, it’s not wrong.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Patel is going to clean house

Yes he hates the FBI, that’s why he was picked.

FBI is not only corrupt now, it’s been corrupt the whole time, ever since Hoover. (disgustingly, he never renamed the building)

A wholllle buncha agents are gonna be fired. Some of them are gonna go to jail. The Hoover building will be razed.

I enjoy your tears.

David says:

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FBI is not only corrupt now, it’s been corrupt the whole time, ever since Hoover. (disgustingly, he never renamed the building)

There has been and always be some corruption in all levels of government. And Trump will make a big difference here in that the corruption will become organized, pervasive, and on a scale hitherto unknown.

And there will so many butwhatabouts both with and without a grain of truth to them that it will make your head spin.

Anonymous Coward says:

“As a non-fan, non-supporter of Donald Trump, I don’t have much left after discovering a disturbing number of my fellow Americans prefer fascism to liberty.”

Actually, I think you will find that the election was stolen, and that most Americans did not vote for Emperor Nero. Of course, that discovery depends on the Democrats actually looking into election fraud in four years, and of course, that The United States of America still exists in 4 years. After all, Trump is going to need a big war somewhere (Muslim) in order to steal the next election if there is one.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I think you will find that the election was stolen, and that most Americans did not vote for Emperor Nero.

You’re right on one count: Most Americans didn’t vote for Trump. The final vote count showed that Trump got 77,284,118 votes, which was 49.8% of the votes cast for president⁠—neither a majority of the voters nor a majority of the U.S. population (his vote count represents approximately 22% of the total U.S. population). As for the “election was stolen” thing, I’m gonna tell you the same thing I’d tell everyone who claims the 2020 election was stolen: Show me hard evidence that it was stolen or fuck off with that bullshit.

Trump is going to need a big war somewhere (Muslim) in order to steal the next election

Hey, so, Trump can’t run again. He is constitutionally barred from having a third term. He could certainly help whoever is going to run for the 2028 election by endorsing and campaigning with the eventual candidate, sure. But he can’t run for a third term, no matter what his idiot supporters want to believe.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Well, see, ya gotta work from the data to the conclusion, not the other way around. So, you did state that as an hypothesis (intentionally or not), but precluded any evidence-gathering to ‘if Democrats win a functional majority in the federal government in four years’, which is hardly necessary for looking at data, but would be necessary for “doing something”, something probably showy and stupid and ineffective, and also probably not involving solid evidence, either. But there is no good reason to run with that particular hypothesis in the first place, so meh.

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