Lies, Damned Lies, And Elon Musk
from the we-used-to-believe-in-reality dept
What do you do when the misinformation is coming from inside the house?
In the recent book Character Limit, about Musk’s takeover of Twitter, there’s an anecdote that is in the introduction. A data scientist who worked at the company (and had survived the early purge), who was horrified at how Musk had fallen for a blatantly obvious made up conspiracy theory, decided that he’d take the opportunity Musk had offered to talk to anyone personally to explain just how gullible Musk seemed:
Musk’s assistant peeked back the muttered and said he had another meeting. “Do you have any final thoughts?” she asked.
“Yes, I want to say one thing.” the data scientist said. He took a deep breath and turned to Musk.
“I’m resigning today. I was feeling excited about the takeover, but I was really disappointed by your Paul Pelosi tweet. It’s really such obvious partisan misinformation and it makes me worry about you and what kind of friends you’re getting information from. It’s only really like the tenth percentile of the adult population who’d be gullible enough to fall for this.”
The color drained from Musk’s already pale face. He leaned forward in his chair. No one spoke to him like this. And no one, least of all someone who worked for him, would dare to question his intellect or his tweets. His darting eyes focused for a second directly on the data scientist.
“Fuck you!” Musk growled.
This is a pattern. Musk has all the money in the world. He has the ability to be one of the best informed people in the world. And he’s built for himself a snowglobe of confirmation bias, making sure that a randomly floating combination of grifters and morons continue to feed him the dumbest shit imaginable, rather than take the slightest effort to actually inform himself of reality.
We just recently had a post contrasting how science educator Hank Green approached some possibly damning information about voting, compared to how Elon Musk handled it. Green was concerned, but spent the time researching it, and realized his original concerns were misplaced, and the institutions had actually done things in a smart way. Elon does no research, and assumes the worst, and simply will retweet any nonsense he comes across so long as it confirms his (very, very confused) biases.
This keeps playing out day after day on ExTwitter, the website that Elon owns. Just recently, I saw Elon post a tweet that was so egregiously wrong, it got Community Noted twice, not that Elon ever acknowledged it was false. As I write this a few days later, the tweet is still up:

That’s a quote tweet from Elon Musk saying “They are literally foaming at their mouth” in response to a tweet from some rando saying “Completely insane story in The Atlantic today” with a faked screenshot of an Atlantic piece with the false headline “Trump is Literally Hitler.” Both the original tweet and Elon’s tweet have a Community Note on it saying “this is not a real article.”
But millions of people saw the original, without the Community Note, and seem to think it’s true.
The original tweeter later admitted that he faked the headline. But because Elon wanted to believe it was true and had to retweet it, giving it a bunch of attention, even The Atlantic was forced to put out a statement noting they never published any such article.

The Atlantic concludes that statement with the following rather straightforward point:
Anyone encountering these images can quickly verify whether something is real––or not––by visiting The Atlantic and searching our site.
The bare minimum effort, which Elon couldn’t be bothered with.
Amusingly, the same day my piece comparing how Green and Musk deal with such information came out, Green released another video, this time talking about how he looked at one day’s worth of Elon tweets and was shocked to see how blatantly and easily Musk publishes easily disproven false information with the implication that Musk believes it’s true. Green found six outright lies posted in just 24 hours.
Again, this is not a one-off thing. Recently, the NY Times looked at five days’ worth of Elon’s tweets and found almost one-third of them “were false, misleading, or missing vital context.”
Nearly a third of his posts last week were false, misleading or missing vital context. They included misleading posts claiming Democrats were making memes “illegal” and falsehoods that they want to “open the border” to gain votes from illegal immigrants. His misleading posts were seen more than 800 million times on X, underscoring Mr. Musk’s unique role as the platform’s most-followed account and a significant source of its misleading content.
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His most-viewed post, seen more than 100 million times, was a misleading projection of the presidential race that showed Mr. Trump winning most battleground states. The data was based on an outdated forecast from Nate Silver, an election modeler. By the time Mr. Musk shared the data, Mr. Silver’s forecast had shifted, suggesting instead that Vice President Kamala Harris was faring better than Mr. Trump. Some users quickly noted that the data was wrong, but Mr. Musk did not remove the post or make a correction.
It wasn’t just one bad week. Bloomberg just came out with an even bigger report, looking at all of Elon Musk’s tweets from 2011 through this week. It’s a really fascinating piece of data-based journalism, showing how he was a pretty ordinary tweeter in the early days, but obviously things changed after he took over Twitter.
As the report notes, in recent weeks, Musk has become obsessed with false and disproven conspiracy theories about the election and immigration.
Musk’s posts about immigration primarily promote misleading narratives: that the election will be unfair because of migrants; that migrants are dangerous, and flooding unchecked into the country; that the vast majority of immigrants have not settled into the US in the “right” way; that migrants have gotten unreasonable, special treatment from the government; and that Democrats are responsible for ushering in large numbers of migrants who go on to commit crimes in the US.
Bloomberg ran a machine learning model on the posts to identify subjects that Musk most often discusses on X, and found that about 1,300 of Musk’s posts in 2024 revolved around immigration and voter fraud. Reporters then manually reviewed hundreds of them to ensure they were properly categorized. Posts were provided by researchers at Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub and the data platform Bright Data.
Musk’s commentary on noncitizens voting is based on a “weak to non-existent” understanding of election law, said David Schultz, a professor of political science at Hamline University in St. Paul, Minnesota. Federal law bars non-US citizens from voting in presidential elections, and voters must legally swear, under penalty of criminal prosecution, that they’re eligible to cast a ballot.
In order to become a US citizen and vote, undocumented immigrants have only a few viable paths, some which take years, such as securing asylum or successfully challenging a deportation order. Meanwhile, state-led investigations by both Republican and Democratic officials have repeatedly found that noncitizen voting is extraordinarily rare — and it’s never been shown to affect the outcome of any election. “Given what we know about how infrequently voter fraud has occurred over the last two or three elections in the US, the odds of drawing a random ballot, and that ballot being fraudulent, approach that of winning the Powerball,” Schultz said.
It also appears that there’s some element of “audience capture” going on. Musk appears to track closely what sort of response his posts get (which is partly why he ordered the company to make his tweets get more attention) and then responds accordingly:
Any time Musk talks about immigration on X, the reposts, replies and views reliably roll in. Though Musk has written about immigration and voter fraud issues in 2024 with about the same frequency as he’s written about Tesla, the automaker he is chief executive of, his immigration-related posts have amassed more than six times the number of reposts.
The article includes a lot more, like the reporters talking to some Trump supporters who are praising Musk while repeating the easily debunked nonsense that he regularly tweets, retweets, or engages with.
There is nothing illegal in what he’s doing, though presenting potentially harmful misinformation about elections, specifically around where and how to vote, can cross the line. But it’s quite striking how Musk, driven by his insatiable desire to be “liked” on his own platform, has shown that he has zero interest in actual truth, and is happy to push any lie that works for his current support for Donald Trump’s campaign.
It’s not new that greedy, disconnected billionaires will often use the media to push lies to support their favored candidates. Yellow journalism is a thing that existed throughout American history. However, it’s pretty shocking just how frequently and how often Elon will directly promote baseless claims or outright falsehoods, never ever taking responsibility or admitting to having promoted bullshit.
This is why, though, it’s important to call it out and for people to recognize what’s happening. Musk is actively miseducating people. And people are believing what he’s posting.
People can argue over why he’s doing this. Some say that he knows he’s spreading lies to idiots and cultists who follow him, because he knows he can get away with it. However, I don’t think that’s true. Having followed the guy and his statements for a while, I honestly think he believes the shit he’s tweeting, and believes the likes and the cultists cheering him on prove that he’s correct.
That he could easily find out the truth is not particularly important to him. It’s not about the truth. It’s about the truthiness of the world he wants to inhabit, where he is the only person who matters.
Whether or not this actually has an impact on the election or other important events in the future is impossible to predict. But it hardly seems like a good state of affairs.
Filed Under: disinformation, donald trump, elon musk, hank green, lies, misinformation, propaganda
Companies: twitter, x




Comments on “Lies, Damned Lies, And Elon Musk”
Truth does another hit piece on Musk.
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More anti-liar hate speech from TruthDirt.
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See a doctor about your Elon Derangement Syndrome, ma’am.
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Only cure is getting him out of our lives by prosecuting him for his blatant and ongoing violations of law.
Criticizing people in power, whether it’s political or financial power, is the patriotic duty of all citizens in a supposedly free country.
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Why do you seek to criminalize Africans, Miss?
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You tried so hard for that bro.
You have yet to learn, however, that effort doesn’t mean effectual.
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Musk has American citizenship. He’s violating American laws. He deserves due process in an American court system.
Why do you think deflecting with non sequiturs does anything other than make you look stupid and desperate?
“Oh no! Someone called out daddy Leon. I have to swoop in and save the billionaire from mean, if factually accurate words!”
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false. non citizen.
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Stop trying the make fetch happen
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Anti Liar. And we hate the liars..
Now go ask you Uncle about this joke.
He found his safe space and he's entrenched himself in it
People can argue over why he’s doing this. Some say that he knows he’s spreading lies to idiots and cultists who follow him, because he knows he can get away with it. However, I don’t think that’s true. Having followed the guy and his statements for a while, I honestly think he believes the shit he’s tweeting, and believes the likes and the cultists cheering him on prove that he’s correct.
Option 3: Whether or not what he’s saying is true is completely and utterly irrelevant to him, in true US conservative fashion all he cares about is what makes him feel better and gets him more attention.
If the truth did the trick then he’d focus on posting the truth, but given his audience he knows full well by now that the more disconnected from reality his posts are the more praise he’ll get for them, so that’s what he’s going with.
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Turns out conservatism has actually been about feels this whole time.
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Shrug. Conservatism is about wanting to keep using the same approaches to the world that worked in the past and makes only sense if the world doesn’t change. However, humans have an effect and so keeping the same approaches that worked in the past acerbates those effects, changes the world, and makes those past approaches work worse.
An obvious solution to that is to deny that the world is changing. That makes conservatives comparatively susceptible to denialism.
And that explains how a serial liar with no convictions of his own could become the figurehead of the more conservative party. He is willing to sell them whatever they are buying.
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Accurate Satire
I like how they keep parroting “The headline!”, implying that the rest of it is accurate. It turns out that the image WAS published by the Atlantic, and so the headline is primarily a “There, I fixed it for you” style job by the satirist. An excellent job that exposes what the Atlantic actually believes, even if they didn’t directly come out and say it.
Folks aren’t that interested in double checking the publisher’s site, considering how low the credibility of the media has fallen. The real outrage is that the satire is beginning to eclipse the reach of the publisher.
Re: Koby: Facts Don't Matter, Only My Feelings
“There, fixed it for you”
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Koby’s stupidity knows no bounds.
That picture was not published by the Atlantic, instead it was published last year by the WaPo:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/20/godwins-law-trump-hitler-comparisons/
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One must conclude at some point that the only reason you say the things that you do is that you enjoy self humiliation.
The amount of energy required to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude greater than to produce it.
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Similarly, Harris must be perfect at all times while Donald is excused from each and every stupid idiot move he makes.
The bullshit is too damn deep!
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To paraphrase: “Farts happen.” (no extra energy required, verbal or otherwise)
It’s getting to be about time to revoke Musk’s naturalization, nationalize his holdings, and deport his sorry ass back to South Africa.
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South Africans have already suffered a lot. Maybe another location would more appropriate. Is there not a free cell in Guantanamo Bay?
Musk has already written his own obituary
It may be many years until it’s published, but he’ll forever be known as a pathetic, weak, insecure little manbaby who closeted himself in a bubble full of sycophants because he couldn’t handle the real world. Instead of using his enormous wealth to make the world better — he could end child hunger in the US tomorrow if he so chose — he’s spending it to prop up his bloated ego, to defend it from the sad reality that he’s a third-rate loser with no talent, no intelligence, no insight, nothing.
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“Instead of using his enormous wealth to make the world better — he could end child hunger in the US tomorrow if he so chose — he’s spending it to prop up his bloated ego, to defend it from the sad reality that he’s a third-rate loser with no talent, no intelligence, no insight, nothing.”
He could’ve been Batman, now he is more like the Penguin.
Same guy who claims to be working on “maximum truth-seeking AI” BTW.
And yes, i also think he’s dumb enough to believe in at least a half of the nonsense he’s peddling.
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Yes — he’s absolutely that dumb.
There’s a reason why the intelligent, literate, educated people of the world are overwhelmingly liberal: it appeals to the superior people. And there’s a reason why the stupid, illiterate, uneducated people of the world are overwhelmingly conservative: it appeals to the inferior people. [1]
Musk is obviously in the latter group; hell, he’s leading the parade.
[1] There are rare exceptions: William F. Buckley Jr. was a vile, horrible man, but he was wonderfully educated and exceptionally literate. On the other side, Tulsi Gabbard is a deranged Froot Loop.
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Wow, sweet jesus in a bucket with a hat on, what the fuck?
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If Musk ever does succeed in creating a “maximum truth-seeking AI”, he’ll junk it immediately, as just another failure — and classify the approach that produced it as clearly an unproductive path.
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‘This thing is broken, it keeps flagging my brilliants tweets as filled with nothing but laughably wrong claims and then further noting that whoever wrote them must be the most gullible or attention-starved moron on the planet!’
Paraphrased from Ed Neidermeyer on Bluesky:
Elon Musk meme’ed his way into being one of the richest men on Earth. You can’t expect him to understand how the world works.
“They are literally foaming at their mouth”
Wow, ok – did these people receive medical attention?
Foaming at the mouth can indicate a serious condition and should receive immediate medical.
It is possible that Leon was exaggerating and the word literally now can mean figuratively … in MAGAworld.
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Literally Literally means figuratively in the dictionary now.
Thanks 1990’s and 2000’s!
And don’t even get me started on “disorientated”.
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Thank instead the real problem, an abysmal education system courtesy of conservative politicians.
TV spots have been repeating the same shit 100 times daily for months on end, so yeah.
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ps the Kansas Reflector has a good article about some of these stupid FUD memes.
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I wouldn’t blame conservatives for this one. The same thing happened to “really” and “very”, where it became used for emphasis rather than meaning “truly”.
To quote Nick Catoggio…
“One of the important things we’ve learned about America from this campaign is that its richest citizen is in fact a colossal dipsh–, and a far more malevolent one than anyone knew.”
https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/boilingfrogs/with-friends-like-these
This is Your Brain on Fame/Power
I won’t deny being pleased when a post of mine on Bluesky or in a comments section gets a like, but this talk of audience capture is leaving me wondering if maybe it’s for the best that I’m a nobody. I can tell myself now that I wouldn’t be swayed by a pattern of certain posts getting a whole mess of likes, but I also have the advantage of not being a big name, so I don’t really have any way of proving that I’m above the temptation of turning my social media presence into a show for my followers.
Granted, Musk isn’t being a jerk and posting right-wing propaganda exclusively for likes, but I can’t help but suspect that the audience feedback is nevertheless a factor in his behavior. It gets even worse when the abundance of bots on the site enter the equation. How many of those likes are even from humans? I’m reminded of what I call the Yes-Man Problem: If someone I have power over laughed at a joke I made, is it because they truly found the joke funny or because they desire my favor and/or fear my wrath? Musk’s basically surrounded himself with people whose humanity he can’t always be sure of and who might only be pretending to like him because they want something from him.
The nice thing about being a nobody is that if someone laughs at my jokes, I can be pretty confident it’s because the jokes are funny.
I used to think Elon Musk was a bit on the spectrum. Now, I’m certain he’s fucking retarded. If I was being nice I would call him obtuse, which would be an insult to obtuse people.
He's almost right
To be fair he’s right about most of that as it applies to one particular South African migrant. Presumably he’s just generalizing from his own experience.
What?
I’ve no idea what this means unless it’s some hitherto unknown (to me) ubernerd techbro speak.
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Too much AI and not enough AI
Artificial vs Actual
The Elmo Principle
Just because you’re rich,
Doesn’t mean you’re smart.
https://bsky.app/profile/thatac.bsky.social/post/3l7a7qqg7e62x
Elmo is getting off on being worshiped by an adoring crowd who think he is awesome, it is a powerful drug & well the psychos he is courting require a stream of speculation and lies.
Its just a pity even USGov has bought into his bullshit as he is in secret communications with the leader of a nation who is our enemy & keeps doing favors for that dictator.
But much like stealing classified documents, its only a crime if you are poor.
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“Elmo is getting off on being worshiped by an adoring crowd…”
I don’t think it being adored. I think some people love a good train wreck, and Elmo’s rich and stupid enough to have a few.
The whole point of buying Twitter was so he could do exactly this, but not just him, all the right wing nut jobs who have flocked to x now that Musk has control.
A con man doesn’t get you to play Three Card Monte because he thinks the game is fair. Jimmy McGill didn’t sell that coin because he was an idiot who didn’t know what a normal silver dollar looks like. They’re grifters – they benefit from a person thinking things are that way, and so they will swear up and down that it is so.
Much of right-wing politics is based around doing what is deemed beneficial (that is, what is beneficial to the politicians and their paid sponsors). They try to put themselves at an advantage by doing everything in their power to convince people that the only right thing to do is what they want, even if they have to convince you that God Himself will come down and smite you and your poor old mother will be kidnapped by evil gangs of terrorist immigrants if you oppose them. It doesn’t MATTER that it’s not true – it matters that it’s doing its job.
To presume that such people are spreading misinformation because they’remistaken and just need to learn the truth misses the point – they aren’t doing this out of ignorance, but because it serves their interests personally.
They think it’s funny when they are called hypocrites, because to them that’s the point – in their eyes, what kind of stupid, weak politician would just tell the truth and limit themselves to what helps their actual constituency, and ignore the opportunity to become a powerful overlord among overlords?
some truth tho
It is true though that Hitler was indicted for insurrection – just like Trump
meidas touch is saying now that elon might be a russian spy now
This is a pattern. Musk has all the money in the world. He has the ability to be one of the best informed people in the world. And he’s built for himself a snowglobe of confirmation bias, making sure that a randomly floating combination of grifters and morons continue to feed him the dumbest shit imaginable, rather than take the slightest effort to actually inform himself of reality.
Uh… I have bad news for you about human nature, including and especially all of your political allies. This is what everyone is doing all the time.
I hope at the very least you don’t think it’s limited to conservatives; a LOT of left-wing popular understanding of economics is an absolutely deranged conspiracy fantasy and none of the people who do know things like “no, a single billionaire could not cure hunger and poverty in the US; no, we could not actually move all of the homeless people to empty houses in Detroit; no, the eight hour work day is not a plot to keep people too exhausted to overthrow capitalism” seem to care about correcting these misconceptions. The left says “moral clarity” instead of “truthiness” but the principle is the same: people don’t care about the truth, they care about telling flattering stories to themselves.
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Totally agree. But, as loony as their understanding of economics is, they’re not running campaigns for a Presidential candidate. And most of the people who have any legitimate chance of being in a Harris administration know enough not to believe in the worst kinds of economic nonsense on that side of the aisle.
The main difference is that this kind of ignorant confirmation basis is the entirety of the right wing universe at this moment. It’s still fringe on the left.
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“It is absolutely impossible for the right to be right about anything, ever,” is a bold statement.
So is the unprovable claim that almost anyone working for Harris’ campaign must be smart and sensible.
There’s plenty of high-profile left-wing accounts that reblog nonsense regularly. Many support Harris.
Also, you’re trying to move goalposts to the actual Presidential campaigns, when this article is about Elon’s “wrong” tweets in gneral.
You don’t “totally agree”. Not even close.
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Elon has reached the level of “f***k you money”. So this is what happens at that level.
He is trolling. And your article shows you took the bait.
If you want Elon to go nuts, just act as if he doesn’t exist. Never reproduce nor link nor reproduce one of his tweets. Purge him from your reality.
Otherwise, you are just feeding the troll. And thus, you get what you deserve.
Musk
He is acting like the evil dwarf of the 3rd Reich. He knows he is spreading lies