UK Once Again Denies A Passport Over Applicant’s Name Due To Intellectual Property Concerns
from the papers-please dept
I can’t believe this, but it happened again. Almost exactly a decade ago, Tim Cushing wrote about a bonkers story out of the UK in which a passport applicant who’s middle name was “Skywalker” was denied the passport due to purported trademark or copyright concerns. The question that ought to immediately leap to mind should be: wait, nothing about a name or its appearance on a passport amounts to either creative expression being copied, nor use in commerce, meaning that neither copyright nor trademark law ought to apply in the slightest.
And you would have thought that coming out of that whole episode, proper guidance would have been given to the UK’s passport office so that this kind of stupidity doesn’t happen again. Unfortunately, it did happen again. A UK woman attempted to get a passport for her daughter, who she named Khaleesi, only to have it refused over the trademark for the Game of Thrones character that held the same fictional title.
Lucy, 39, from Swindon in Wiltshire, said the Passport Office initially refused the application for Khaleesi, six.
Officials said they were unable to issue a passport unless Warner Brothers gave permission because it owned the name’s trademark. But the authority has since apologised for the error.
“I was absolutely devastated, we were so looking forward to our first holiday together,” Lucy said.
While any intellectual property concerns over a passport are absolutely silly, I would argue that trademark law makes even less sense here than copyright would. Again, trademark law is designed specifically to protect the public from being confused as to the source of a good or service in commerce. There is no good or service nor commerce here. Lucy would simply like to take her own child across national borders. That’s it. Lucy had to consult with an attorney due to this insanity, which didn’t initially yield the proper result.
After seeking legal advice, her solicitors discovered that while there is a trademark for Game of Thrones, it is for goods and services – but not for a person’s name.
“That information was sent to the Passport Office who said I would need a letter from Warner Brothers to confirm my daughter is able to use that name,” she said.
This amounts to a restriction on the rights and freedoms of a child in a free country as a result of the choice their parent’s made about their name. Whatever your thoughts on IP laws in general, that simply cannot be the aim of literally any of them.
Now, once the media got a hold of all of this, the Passport Office eventually relented, said it made an error in denying the passport, and has put the application through. But even the government’s explanation doesn’t fully make sense.
Official explained there had been a misunderstanding and the guidance staff had originally given applies only to people changing their names.
“He advised me that they should be able to process my daughter’s passport now, ” she said.
Why would the changing of a name be any different? My name is my name, not a creative expression, nor a use in commerce. If I elect to change my name from “Timothy Geigner” to “Timothy Mickey Mouse Geigner”, none of that equates to an infringement of Disney’s rights, copyright nor trademark. It’s just my name. It would only be if I attempted to use my new name in commerce or as part of an expression that I might run afoul of either trademark or copyright law.
What this really is is the pervasive cancer that is ownership culture. It’s only with ownership culture that you get a passport official somehow thinking that Warner Bros. production of a fantasy show means a six year old can’t get a passport.
Filed Under: khaleesi, names, passport office, passports, trademark, uk
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Comments on “UK Once Again Denies A Passport Over Applicant’s Name Due To Intellectual Property Concerns”
If the UK Government can give a birth certificate for a person named Khaleesi (they don’t see any trademark issue at that point in time), then surely they can give another official government identification document (passport) for the same person…
Passports are documents of privilege
https://overcast.fm/+AAHuuvKz-7k
“in her book Airplane Mode, the reluctant travel writer Shahnaz Habib warns of recklessly embracing what she calls “passport privilege,” — and how that can skew peoples’ images of what the world is and who it belongs to.”
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Is there a point in there somewhere?
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Literally spam.
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You care about this, not BLATANT FREE SPEECH VIOLATIONS?
They literally are sending out police over facebook posts, right now. Like, mostly people upset that an immigrant stabbed 3 little girls to death (and severely injured like a dozen others). How dare they be upset about that, amiright? (yes btw, morons, “hate speech”, whatever you think that is free speech too)
Police have even declared that they consider sharing video of the protests (i.e. basic journalism) to be “Inciting violence”
Don’t get me wrong, UK objecting to TM names is fucked, but it’s important to understand that the UK has become a weird soviet state. It literally arrested more people over internet posts than Russia did this year. UK gives no shits about free speech. TM names on passpowers is such a small part of the picture…who gives a fuuck?
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Really? And in what way is a man born in Wales who stabbed three girls in England (both countries of the UK) in any way an immigrant? Enquiring minds would like to know.
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“BLATANT FREE SPEECH VIOLATIONS”
Please excuse my ignorance, but what does the above mean?
A governing body may decide to declare certain rights that are bestowed upon the populace and these rights can be violated, but how does one perform these blatant free speech violations? Do you spit upon the bill of rights?
side note: soviet state? lol
more like infiltrated by soviet provocateurs.
You literally are in need of data to backup your claims.
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They care about both. Just because they don’t cover every single story about them doesn’t mean they don’t care.
Not that I don’t believe you, but do you have a citation?
Assuming I’m correct on what you’re referring to, the culprit wasn’t an immigrant. I believe he’s from Wales, which is part of the UK.
Being upset is fine. I think this issue was that they came to incorrect conclusions and spread them online. I don’t think that merits criminal charges or the police, but at least recognize what the actual issue is here.
Agreed.
I agree that that’s nonsense. Likely TD would agree as well. It just has nothing to do with this article.
In other words, your objection has nothing to do with this article.
I don’t think you understand what a “Soviet state” is. Hint: It’s not just any left-leaning country that censors people.
I’m curious as to where you got that data from.
I mean, it gives at least some more protection for free speech than, say, China, but I get the point, and I agree for the most part.
Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean no one cares, let alone that it’s not worth covering. And just because someone doesn’t cover it doesn’t mean they don’t care at all.
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Yeah I think I’ll ignore everything that came after this BS.
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The fuuucking damage it takes to make that argument. Wat, it’s not repression if it affects people that are too well off?
Jesus wept.
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lol – wut?
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Hey chumley, drank your ivermectin today?
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Finally, it’s learning.
The funny part about all this is that you actually think someone is going to reward you for your frantic 1-percenter shilling.
Where’s Monty Python when you need ’em?
'We're sorry, that name is already taken': Not just for games any more
“That information was sent to the Passport Office who said I would need a letter from Warner Brothers to confirm my daughter is able to use that name,” she said.
Well that’s not a horrifying response from the government at all. ‘Sorry but a large company called dibs on that name for any and all use, if you want to use it to get a passport you’ll need to ask their permission.’
I do wonder if anyone pointed out the inadvertently admitted own goal, because if the name is actually locked up that tightly then it sure seems like the UK should be on the hook for ‘letting’ her give her daughter an infringing name in the first place.
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So, is this why we never know where Waldo is?
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Why Warner Brothers, anyway? George R.R. Martin used the name long before HBO/Warner got involved. And what happens if one tries to name one’s kid “George R.R. Martin”?
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Ideally, the famous one would be extremely flattered. Like how Rhianna Pratchett is extremely flattered when she meets children named after her father.
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Ideally. But, will the Passport Office demand to see proof of that?
A better question is: is making your own “George R.R. Martin” and raising them to be a writer the fastest way of having George R.R. Martin finish the book series?
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I highly doubt that the man who knows literally fuck all about how copyright is supposed to work or what fanfiction is would be flattered. He’s more likely to attempt to sue for ‘copyright infringement’ of his name.
Twice in a decade! Truly, copyright law is crushing the life out of this country.
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It only happens once in a while, no worries then – good day!
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Two people being mildly inconvenienced a decade apart is trivial bullshit. Pretending it matters is demeaning to both the chatGPT in a skinsuit that typed this up, and to any of us unfortunate to have read it.
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Is it mild inconvenience, though? When anything that is remotely related to intellectual property is fought over by some of the most litigious plaintiffs in legal history?
IP apologists cannot be expected or trusted to exercise restraint in their inconveniencing of others.
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Yes. Yes it is a mild inconvenience.
It’s not even at the IP holder’s behest.
UK Governmemt: please take this legal document seriously
Tim: IP holders want to keep you barricaded in your bedroom!!!1!
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“Two people being mildly inconvenienced a decade apart is trivial bullshit.”
Yes, apparently so – to those who do not give a shit about anyone but themselves.
But omg .. when it is you that are inconvenienced it is the end of the world, amirite? I’ve seen your type on airplanes complaining about how poorly you were treated as they kicked you off the plane.
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It must be great being psychic. What are next week’s lottery numbers? Where is the Maltese Flacon?
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Meanwhile copyright infringement was supposed to kill the entertainment industry decades ago – and continues to do a pretty shit job of it.
name change
When Joe lycett changed his name to Hugo boss I bet he didn’t have to get permission from them so the Po’s reason just doesn’t stack up but they have always been crap.
How would Warner Bros have any legal standing to sue a passport office for copyright or trademark infringement over assigning a passport under a person’s name, that just so happens to have a very similar or exact name as one of the Warner Bros’ trademarks.
Imagine what would happen if some company sues any legal entities for performing their duties under a person’s name. That would get their claims (mostly) tossed out of court and laughed!
This happens because civil servants think copyright overrules any law or regulation because it’s presumed big media company’s have more rights than any person and in America a corporation has the rights of a person
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This didn’t happen in America.
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To be fair the US has been pushing its version of copyright on everyone…
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“civil servants think ”
How many civil servants did you ask?
What percentage of all civil servants are represented in your sample size?
How is this then statistically applicable to all civil servants?
“it’s presumed big media company’s have more rights than any person”
By whom, civil servants? Why? Did you ask any of them?
“it’s presumed big media company’s have more rights than any person”
It is a fact, corporations have more rights than the average individual. I do not feel the need to provide proof of this as it is rather self evident.
Money == rights.
In related news, people with the last name “Warner” are now prohibited from having more than one son.
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Well done… of course, it would be utterly trivial to prove that said brothers (via their great-great grandfather or thereabouts) had been using Warner longer than the corporation. It would be great if this nuttiness meant that WBD had to argue for why their mark shouldn’t be canceled.
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And I hope someone doesn’t want to use the name “John” since it’s owned by Disney (“John Carter”) and Warner Bros (“John Wick”).
Maybe they were just worried she’d return across the sea, at the head of 10,000 dothraki screamers?
Nah. That child is clearly out to harm the good and great corporate entity. They should behead her for her crimes.
International borders, actually. The whole point of a passport is for it to have a visa allowing entry into another country, not to allow travel across state (or county) borders within the one country.
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A country has national borders. It’s only if you cross those borders that you go international.
E.G.: You do international travel by crossing national borders. You dig?
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Things are weirder in the U.K., which itself contains four countries/nations—among which people can travel without passports.
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I’m sure this comment sounded pretty clever in your head…
While we’re being pedantic, I guess, why are state borders around a state but national borders apparently are not around a nation?
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We park on driveways
and drive on parkways.
Somewhere a lawyer was feeling very excited having gotten the UK government to add yet another IP feather to his cap… and right now he is screaming that people know about it.
Its the UK, whats the over under on them expanding this new system to birth records?
We’re sorry you can’t name your child that, there is a trademark somewhere attached to it so we need a letter from the Pope, the current rightsholder, the current rights licensee, & god himself before you can name your son Donald.
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If it stops people doing inane shit like calling their kid “khaleesi”, I’m all for it
Skywalker is a common name around here
Skywalker is a common name for people with plains Cree Indian heritage, at least around here.
Three quarters of the people on a reserve not far from here are named Skywalker, Daywalker or just plain Walker.
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Which is likely where Disney got the name. They are well known for plundering the collective consciiousness of other cultures.*
*Yeah, yeah. I know that it was actually George Lucas who used the name and Disney bought out his company decades later.
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For some reason, I don’t think Laura Elizabeth Skywalker Matthews of Southend, Essex, who added Skywalker to her name for “a bit of a laugh” is an enrolled member of the Cree nation.
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Well, I guess that proves ’em wrong eh?
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Not wrong, just irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
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No, it’s extremely relevant. It shows how nonsensical the objection was in the first place.
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The woman changed her name for a laugh.
The UK passport office does not issue passports for frivilously assumed names, which include but are not limited to copyrighted characters, presumably because the Foreign Office has better things to do than get Obi-Wan Kenobi or Coca Cola PizzaHut out of detention in Dubai for travelling on an apparently false passport.
Therefore the UK Passport office did not issue a passport to Laura Skywalker Matthews. (Also because she signed the form asking for a passport for L Matthews as L Skywalker.)
The traditional names of a group on the other side of the planet, under a different legal jurisdiction, are not relevant as they were not adopted frivilously in the UK.
Should a member of the Cree nation named Skywalker apply for a UK passport, they would be able to demonstrated that they were not named that as a joke with their friends and thus would not have an issue.
Unless you can find instances of Cree people named Skywalker (or other people with traditional names coopted by media) being denied passports on the basis of their traditional names being copyrighted, you’re just using them as set dressing in your weird paranoid fantasies.
I can’t wait for the dark future where everyone’s name is a unique 64-character string of jumbled alphanumeric characters because every conceivable combination of 1-50 character names has been tied up forever in a sprawling oeuvre of AI-generated “literature”. With all normal words copyrighted and trademarked, language itself can move on to being something rented out.
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Yes, I too had friends whose parents were paranoid Christians in the ’90s who were convinced that bar codes were the mark of the antichrist. It’s weird that the idea that mental illness breeds creativity persists when everyone’s persecution complexes are so similarly tedious.
X is my middle name
So I hope Musk doesn’t come after me because ‘X’ is my middle name…
🤷🏻♂️
J.M. Barrie’s estate has just sent out C & D orders to everybody named Wendy.
Lawsuits to follow in 30 days.