This Week In Techdirt History: May 5th – 11th

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Five Years Ago

This week in 2019, there was a legal fight over whether it’s protected speech to flash your headlights to warn of hidden cops. We looked at how little the FCC had done to police wireless location data scandals, and how it was doubling down on bogus claims about broadband availability, as well as hiding details about fake net neutrality comments, and ignoring phone companies ripping people off. Apple was engaging in some more silly trademark aggression, this time over a bicycle path in Germany, while a motorcycle rally was continuing to assert trademarks that had been invalidated. And a broad coalition of people were calling on Congress to bring back to Office of Technology Assessment.

Ten Years Ago

This week in 2014, what was Congress voting against? Well… bringing back the Office of Technology Assessment. Meanwhile, we looked at the ways broadband companies were killing net neutrality without actually violating it and trying to make the internet more like the old, broken phone system. Congress was also looking at competing NSA reform bills, the better of which had already been watered down, and the two sides eventually reached a compromise. And we wrote about how easy it is to casually violate copyright and how the world of copyright policymaking seems allergic to facts (as quickly demonstrated by an industry report on the dangers of pirate sites that didn’t include any data).

Fifteen Years Ago

This week in 2009, we discussed what (if anything) the Wolverine leak cost the movie at the box office. A popular video was demonstrating the beauty of remixes, while 20th Century Fox was taking down entries in its own mashup contest. California was considering a troubling photo removal law for social media, the UK was looking to wildly increase the fines for copyright infringement, Italy was taking a troubling view of the internet, and there were legal questions about Facebook blocking links to The Pirate Bay. This was also the week when the LA Times dug up and spread the funny little story of why SMS text messages are limited to 160 characters.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Weimar-era German leaders like Gustav Stresemann, Heinrich Brüning, and Friedrich Ebert were all responsible German statesmen, and were working to revise Versailles in a manner that would not threaten the peace of Europe.

But they were undermined by the inability and unwillingness of Britain and France to cooperate. In fact, one could reasonably argue that Britain, France, Italy, and Czechoslovakia all indirectly assisted Hitler’s rise to power in 1933.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I doubt they’re actually as racist as they claim to be. Their trolling is a mix of right-wing lunacy and what they imagine “extreme” left-wingers sound like because they keep doing the same schtick with the same writing style over and over without expecting anyone to connect the dots between their “I’m so fascist that I got a swatsika tattooed on my forehead” act and their “I’m such an extreme left-winger that I think everyone should undergo forced gender transitions” act. They’re after attention because they’re so unloved in their actual life that the only dopamine rush they can get nowadays is to troll a tech blog with extremist rhetoric and pray someone actually replies to their bullshit instead of just hiding it outright.

And yes, I’m guilty of replying to their bullshit and giving them the attention they so desperately deserve. I’m not saying I’m perfect. But at least I wear my anti-conservative bias on my sleeve, as opposed to the jackass who thinks he can get away with being a Neo-Nazi and a “left-wing fascist” in the same comments section without anyone being the wiser to his schtick because he posts anonymously.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Stone, it’s undeniable that 1) Hitler did not want a war with Britain, and 2) Britain should not have declared war in 1939 on an Anglophile Hitler who wanted to ally the Reich with the United Kingdom against their common enemy the Soviet Union.

Given how Russia meddled in recent Western elections, and how they’re trying to kill/enslave every last democracy-loving Ukraine person, it clearly would’ve been better for free people everywhere if Stalin had been defeated and Germany allowed to liquidate all Bolsheviks and their supporters.

MrWilson (profile) says:

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it’s undeniable that 1) Hitler did not want a war with Britain,

Who cares if he wanted it or not? He took actions that caused it. He knew those consequences were likely. Sure, he probably would have liked more nations to continue appeasing him rather than him having to focus military resources on Britain. That doesn’t mean Britain would have been better off allying with him or appeasing him more than it already did. And it doesn’t mean the rest of Europe would have been better off for it either.

Britain should not have declared war in 1939 on an Anglophile Hitler who wanted to ally the Reich with the United Kingdom

Hitler knew who Britain was allied with. He knew what would happen when he invaded Poland. You’re saying Britain should not have upheld its diplomatic obligations to defend a sovereign nation from imperialist, genocidal invasion (more on this in a moment). You’d have been better off arguing that Hitler shouldn’t have invaded Poland or the Sudatenland or remilitarized the Rhineland or even come to power in the first place!

their common enemy the Soviet Union.

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact would like a word with your history lessons.

Given how Russia meddled in recent Western elections,

Are you talking about 1930s Soviet Russia or current day Russia? Current day Russia has more in common with Nazi Germany than Soviet Russia.

and how they’re trying to kill/enslave every last democracy-loving Ukraine person

Yeah, you don’t get to carry water for the poster child for systematic genocide and then pretend you’re opposed to similar atrocities conducted by someone else.

it clearly would’ve been better for free people everywhere if Stalin had been defeated

Free people like Jewish people, gay people, socialists in Europe?

liquidate all Bolsheviks and their supporters.

Not just a call for genocide, but a likely antisemitic dog whistle too! That’s a tightly packed bundle of evil you’re handing out.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Assume that anyone who believes in an imaginary sky friend is a child molester. Find these individuals in your community, and submit their personal details to child protection services. Where possible, ask that they be given to homosexual couples seeking to have children but are not capable of doing so. You’d be doing the world a favor.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Assume that anyone who believes men can have babies is a child molester. Find these individuals in your community, and submit their personal details to child protection services. Where possible, ask that they be given to homosexual couples seeking to have children but are not capable of doing so. You’d be doing the world a favor.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Assume that anyone who believes men can have babies is a child molester.

Given the lack of reports about significant numbers of transgender people (and their allies) molesting children, the prior suggestion about reporting people who believe in God as potential child molesters⁠—ridiculous and overreaching and narrow-minded as it is⁠—makes far more sense than yours.

This isn’t to say trans people/their allies can’t be child molesters. But if you want someone to believe people from those two groups are molesting children at rates that are comparable to, say, religious clergy? You must present evidence to back that claim, not basic-ass bigotry that is a mere step away from advocating for the annihilation of an entire class of people⁠—for no reason other than “they exist”, no less!⁠—by the kind of fascist leader who would likely kill you if you looked at him the wrong way.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Do you know why people rob banks? That is where the money is.

Do you think some people aspire to positions where they are in contact with children on purpose(Teachers, clergy, scout leaders)?

Are trans people on the rise? Are they wanting access to children? The answer to both questions is yes.

I stick by my assertion.

But I appreciate your respectful tone

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Are trans people on the rise? Are they wanting access to children?

Three things.

  1. The number of transgender people in the population of the United States is, by all practical estimates, around 1% (a little over 2 million people).
  2. The phrase “on the rise” doesn’t mean anything here because it lacks context: Are they “on the rise” in numbers, political power, or some other factor?
  3. The phrase “wanting access to children” is meant to imply in this context that trans people want “access to children” for the purposes of molestation⁠—but such an implication carries no evidence, and that besides, trans people wanting to live in society without being burdened by such accusations only because of who they are, including holding down jobs in education, isn’t really “wanting access to children” for the purposes you’re implying.

I appreciate your respectful tone

I respect you as much as I respect any rank-ass bigot: not one damn bit.

Anonymous Coward says:

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More millennials and GenZs identify as trans and nonbinary. Why wouldn’t they? There exists no more promise in the cisgender, conservative, nuclear family unit for them. If anything, your team fucked things up for your children. Now they eschew your aspirations, they mock your empires, they scream at you in the face, “No, fuck YOU, dad!” Righteous comeuppance for your cruelty and abuse, masquerading as “tough love” and “discipline” and “character building”.

We got gay marriage approved in this country. You tried to render us extinct, but I tell you the truth, you will not prevent our access to the younger generations. They will weed your poison out of this earth. They will dismantle your bastions of hate, your fortresses of bigotry. Women today realize that when they get lost in the woods, between a man or a bear, they’d rather take chances with the bear. At least the bear isn’t going to rape them and get uppity about reputational damage. Rightly so. Your kind have pushed the heterosexual family unit on society at the expense of everyone else.

You will not stop us. You managed to stack the deck to get Roe vs. Wade repealed. I promise you, we won’t be making that sort of tolerant mistake again. In order to be tolerant, we must not tolerate intolerance. I know for a fact that other esteemed named users here have cited Popper’s Paradox multiple times.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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If I remember correctly, both you and TAC are gay men?

How would you feel today if someone had told you as a child that you weren’t gay but really a woman and convinced you to chop off body parts and take hormone blockers and whatnot? Assuming you are still alive ten years + later.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I fully support GAC because it’s likely to lead to the mutilation and sterilization of all those sick fuck gay men and autistic women, hastening the removal of their defective DNA from the gene pool.

In fact, I’ve never been more pro-gender than now, especially since GAC’s been irrefutably proven not to reduce suicidality.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Anti-trans bigots have exactly two jokes: the “attack helicopter” joke and the pronouns joke. They’re never funny, they’re always the same punchline, and they’re the only anti-trans jokes those assholes ever tell because conservative-minded assholes are rarely as creative as the far, far, far better artists that said assholes try to copy.

And despite that, every time they tell those same two jokes, they’re still edgier than you.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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If I remember correctly, both you and TAC are gay men?

I am bisexual, but that isn’t really relevant.

How would you feel today if someone had told you as a child that you weren’t gay but really a woman and convinced you to chop off body parts and take hormone blockers and whatnot?

I can’t know that because (1) I didn’t figure out I was bi until early adulthood and (2) I have never had any gender dysphoria. Speculation of this kind is meaningless besides.

If someone is trying to “convince” children that they’re transgender when those children aren’t, that someone is an asshole. But by and large, such “convincing” is largely the realm of bigoted fantasies where the bigot who imagines such things going on personally enacts a righteous (and most likely violent) form of “justice” against a Repugnant Cultural Other.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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It shows a clear bias to [trans people]

Queer cisgender people can be bigoted towards trans people. I’m not. That’s partly because of my own queerness and partly because I believe trans people deserve the same rights and freedoms⁠—including the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness⁠—as cisgender people. Why wouldn’t they? Trans people are people regardless of whether you accept that fact.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Transwomen are women. Transwomen qualify for women’s sports, except for that annoying percentage of foolish scientists and women who think that we’re encroaching on their “rights”, the same rights that they once so valiantly fought for us. A triviality that will be dealt with.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I said they’d be dealt with. If you decided that had violent suggestions, I think that’s an observation on your end, not mine.

The term “dealt with”, per the context in which you used it, has far more violent implications than non-violent ones.

We can continue being fabulous.

Go back to being a right-wing troll. Your attempts to sound like a queer person are embarassing for everyone (but especially for you).

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Your attempts to sound like a queer person are embarassing for everyone

That is not possible. Queer people are never embarrassing.

The shame we experience is from straight normies holding us down and trying to make us look dumb. If anything, straight people are at fault. Not me.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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You’re trying so hard to make everyone think you’re an ultra-leftist queer and you’re failing so badly that even I, a noted dumbass, can see through your bullshit. For the record: Using all-or-nothing binary logic (e.g., “queer people are never embarrassing”, “if anything, straight people are at fault”) doesn’t do you any favors.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Male pregnancy is an evolutionary inevitability. Gay men will want to have children of their own and more and more Gen Z women are realizing that they want nothing to do with men.

You cannot stop progress. Why do you think we evolved the prostrate which feels really really good when a thick cock slams into it? You tried to wipe us out, and generation after generation, you continue to fail to do so.

Your time is coming, Hyman. All you boomer trash will have to die sometime.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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If the demand didn’t exist, there wouldn’t be the content for it.

Even if a demand for male pregnancy beyond the fetishistic nature of the idea actually exists, cisgender men can’t get pregnant.

The idea that we are violent is a lie

Two things.

  1. Queer people can be plenty violent when they want to be.
  2. You don’t speak for any actual queer person, and your attempts to act like you’re queer so you can paint queer people as extremists (violent or otherwise) aren’t getting you anything but call-outs for the transparent bullshit you’re trying (and failing) to sell.

Again: Go back to being the right-wing extremist; your attempts to paint queer people as radically violent left-wing extremists won’t work here.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Even if a demand for male pregnancy beyond the fetishistic nature of the idea actually exists, cisgender men can’t get pregnant.

Well, not with that sort of defeatist attitude.

You don’t speak for any actual queer person, and your attempts to act like you’re queer so you can paint queer people as extremists (violent or otherwise) aren’t getting you anything but call-outs for the transparent bullshit you’re trying (and failing) to sell.

So blame the straight people. That’s exactly what I’ve been doing. Either way someone straight gets the blame. Hyman, preferably, though Matthew Bennett comes at a very close second.

your attempts to paint queer people as radically violent left-wing extremists won’t work here

Nobody believes queer people are violent, left-wing extremists. What I’m saying is therefore neither violent nor extreme. And if it’s not working, realistically, you have nothing to fear.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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So blame the straight people. That’s exactly what I’ve been doing.

And that’s pretty much exactly how I know you’re a right-wing shitheel who is trying to post as an ultra-left-wing queer person: You think every queer person blames all straight people for any problems faced by any given queer person on an individual level and by queer people as a demographic, then post according to that delusional belief.

Nobody believes queer people are violent, left-wing extremists.

And yet, you keep trying to imply that they are by posting about the forced “queering” of cishet people (and the murder of cishet people who refuse to comply with non-consensual sex and/or forced gender reassignment surgery). You give away the game every time you act like you’re the queer version of a MAGA shithead because you can’t imagine a world in which queer people simply coëxist with cishet people without trying to dominate cishet people as “revenge” for the way queer people have been treated for decades (if not centuries). If I can see through your bullshit clear as day, what makes you think no one else can?

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