DeSantis Vetoes Terrible Social Media Bill… Only To Support One That’s Just As Bad

from the no,-just-kidding dept

I had thought that maybe, just maybe, now that DeSantis had dropped out of the Presidential race, maybe (just maybe?) he’d stop pushing blatantly unconstitutional laws. That’s not to say that DeSantis has any good ideas. But it felt like over the last few years, he really leaned into the nonsense culture wars in an attempt to boost his own profile for a hilariously inept Presidential run. He seemed to think that going to war with a “woke Disney” would somehow appeal to the brainwashed fools who now make up the base of his party. It didn’t work.

During the past few years, though, DeSantis passed a long list of culture war bills and watched as Florida taxpayer money was thrown away and one after another was tossed out as unconstitutional.

And there were a few signs that maybe a slightly more reasonable DeSantis was emerging. A few weeks back he talked about how he supported amending legislation that was being used to ban books in school to be more explicit in not banning books (even though he knows full well that’s the intent of the law).

And then, there’s HB 1. This is yet another new anti-social media law, which we wrote about earlier this year. The bill was from Rep. Tyler Sirois, whose website claims he is “dedicated to the principals of limited government, individual responsibility, and constitutional liberty.” (Also, fwiw, he means principles, not principals, but I think we’ve established that Tyler Sirois is not the sharpest knife in the legislative drawer).

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And his first bill of this session violated all three of those things. It’s a big government bill that removes individual liberty in a clearly unconstitutional way. So, of course, the Florida legislature passed it.

A few weeks back, DeSantis made some noise suggesting he would veto it, knowing that it was unconstitutional:

“I think that I’m not going to be supporting if I don’t think it’s going to be something that’s going to pass legal muster in the courts,” Ron DeSantis said in Cape Coral.

[….]

“What I’ve said previously, these things have huge legal hurdles. They’ve been held up in courts. I don’t want to go down the road of doing something that is not going to be going to pass muster legally,” DeSantis said.

[….]

“I don’t want to have anything where government is forcing the disclosure of folks. But when you’re talking about verifying ages, if you do that in a way that’s ham-handed, you’re going to lead to that,” DeSantis said.

That sounds almost reasonable? It sounds like someone who has had multiple laws he supported thrown out as unconstitutional and who is no longer running for President, so he doesn’t need to go “full culture war.”

But, come on, this is Ron DeSantis we’re talking about here. Did anyone think he’d actually give up on unconstitutional, censorial nonsense?

On Friday, he did, in fact, veto the bill. But, he immediately said he’d be supporting another bill that he thought was better.

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I have vetoed HB 1 because the Legislature is about to produce a different, superior bill. Protecting children from harms associated with social media is important, as is supporting parents’ rights and maintaining the ability of adults to engage in anonymous speech. I anticipate the new bill will recognize these priorities and will be signed into law soon.

So what is that “different, superior bill”? Turns out it’s HB 3. It’s not that different. It’s definitely not superior. It’s just as bad and (importantly) just as unconstitutional.

It bans social media for anyone under the age of 16 (already found to be unconstitutional elsewhere). It requires parental controls/parental consent for accounts under 16 (already found to be unconstitutional elsewhere).

Therefore, I’m going to suggest that DeSantis doesn’t really much care about whether or not he supports a clearly unconstitutional bill, or that he will be wasting more taxpayer money defending it. He just didn’t like this one unconstitutional bill and appears to prefer a different one. That’s not progress. It’s moving sideways.

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Anonymous Coward says:

If I’m reading it correctly, a big change seems to be the lack of age verification for the social media clauses, which they viewed as the easiest way for that part of the law to be found unconstitutional (they’ll argue, likely unsuccessfully, in court that the remaining restrictions are solely on minors and do not require that age verification of adults).

It also includes unconstitutional age verification requirements for adult websites, as a result of this bill being the original HB1 and the new HB3. Though they made it directly enforceable by the state so it should successfully be challenged quite quickly, unlike most other similar bills that have either been enforced solely by private action laws or were passed by states in the 5th circuit.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

You have no idea what is constitutional

You have famously claimed for a over a year now the federal government telling Social Media (and book sellers!) who to censor is just fine. You have been proved wrong at every turn, keep claiming that.

He seemed to think that going to war with a “woke Disney” would somehow appeal to the brainwashed fools who now make up the base of his party.

Yeah….tell me again how you are “completely nonpartisan”, you lying hack.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Re: Re:

He said this, 2 days ago, in response to me making fun of him not realizing Herridge worked for Fox News for many years (it was even where the lawsuit he was “reporting” on came from, so the fact she was ex Fox was a lot more relevant than being ex-CBS)

Unlike you, Matt, I don’t view things through a partisan lens, nor do I report based on partisanship.

He then goes on to say the most blatantly partisan things in his very next post.

He can’t even remember what he JUST said in order to gaslight consistently. It’s amazing.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Actually someone said “Violence” and then I said “way less than the BLM riots” An awful lot of which was done by antifa. (not all)(in fact some BLM folks are bitter about what they see as antifa hijacking and inflaming the whole situation)

So not the way I said it but every bit of that accurate. It’s really funny that you think that was a burn somehow.

Maybe you can cite a buncha case studies about “very strict liability” (not a thing) while you’re at it.

Strawb (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Actually someone said “Violence” and then I said “way less than the BLM riots”

There you go lying again.

What happened was that someone else said that Jan 6 was violent, and then you LITERALLY said “it wasn’t tho”. When you were then proven wrong(again), you changed your argument to say:

“I’m not saying that stuff is OK, but it is waaaaaaaayyyy less severe than what happened during the BLM riots.”

Considering you struggle with a spam filter, I’m not surprised that you think you can gaslight us despite there being a record of your stupidity and lies.

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