FTC Continues To Wade Into Copyright Issues In AI Without Understanding Anything

from the why-is-the-ftc-even-looking-at-this? dept

Last year we were dismayed (and somewhat annoyed) to see the FTC step way beyond its bounds and expertise by issuing a ridiculous comment to the US Copyright Office regarding questions around AI and copyright. In it, the FTC (which has no authority — or expertise — regarding copyright law) argued that fair use was somehow anticompetitive, and resulted in “unfair competition.”

This is the opposite of truth. A key part of the reason for fair use is to enable greater competition, rather than locking up content in a monopoly scenario. As we’ve highlighted time and time again, if AI systems had to license all the data they train on, it would be hugely anti-competitive in that only a few of the largest tech companies could afford such a license, effectively limiting AI innovation to those giant companies with deep pockets. Google, Meta, and Microsoft can afford these licenses. But few others can, and the end result might greatly limit the access to these technologies and competition from new (and open source) models.

It wasn’t just me who was annoyed either. Three well known copyright experts/academics, Pam Samuelson, Chris Sprigman, and Matthew Sag, called out the FTC for being fundamentally misguided on these issues.

We are concerned especially about the suggestion in the FTC’s Comments that AI training might be a Section 5 violation where it “diminishes the value of [a creator’s] existing or future works.” A hallmark of competition is that it diminishes the returns that producers are likely to garner relative to a less competitive marketplace. This is just as likely to be true in markets for creative goods, such as novels and paintings, as it is in markets for ordinary tangible goods like automobiles and groceries. AI agents that produce outputs that are not substantially similar to any work on which the AI agent was trained, and are thus not infringing on any particular copyright owner’s rights, are lawful competition for the works on which they are trained.  Surely the FTC does not plan to have Section 5 displace the judgments of copyright law on what is and what is not lawful competition?

Moreover, even if, contrary to our expectations, courts declare AI training to be infringement (because outside the protection of the Copyright Act’s fair use provision), the FTC should think long and hard before layering the prospect of Section 5 liability on top of the remedies already available under the Copyright Act.

Unfortunately, the FTC seems committed to this somewhat bonkers position.

Last month, it published an FTC “staff report” about “AI and Creative Fields,” based on a roundtable they held with a ridiculously one-sided panel of folks from the creative industries, who more or less all agreed that everyone should be forced to give them money at every opportunity.

Given the entirely one-sided nature of the panel, it’s no surprise that the participants insisted that training on their works was a horrible infringement of their rights (something that has still not been determined by any court, and would be a disaster for creativity should it be found to be accurate).

But, seriously, what the fuck is the FTC doing endorsing many of these bonkers points without pushing back on why they are, themselves, anti-competitive and problematic? Instead, the FTC again endorses the untested idea that all training data must be licensed (which would, again, further concentrate the power of the largest AI companies). It also argues that “style mimcry” is a concern, when that’s kind of the basis of almost all creators learning and building their own styles.

While the conclusion of the report finally admits that many of these issues are beyond the FTC’s jurisdiction, it does not explain why they still feel the need to weigh in on these issues with a wholly one-sided approach, with repeated explicit endorsements of anti-competitive copyright monopolies, which will lead to greater concentrations of wealth and power.

All of that seems to go against the FTC’s stated charter to encourage more competition. I miss the days when the FTC actually used to recognize the anti-competitive nature of modern copyright and patent law.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The copyright industry has found a new commission to go bat on their behalf.

So what? When have you ever done anything derivative with a work in your life, or offered insightful commentary or criticism that would’ve otherwise been stifled by productive tax-paying companies and the noble government servants who regulate them?

Anonymous Coward says:

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Hey John Smith, good to see that you’re hitting the ground running early in the new year.

Just in case you’ve forgotten, which we all know you wish you’d be able to, here’s a reminder: Section 230 doesn’t enable defamation, Shiva Ayyadurai didn’t invent email, and Paul Hansmeier isn’t going to win his appeal.

Happy New Year to you too, you piece of shit.

Anonymous Coward says:

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So what?

When the copyright industry continues buying government agency after agency at significant cost, it starts to raise questions in the minds of the general public. You know, the same general public that purchases content and media, the people who you’ve been preaching prophecies of doom if copyright were to ever be disrespected. It starts prompting them to ask questions. Why do artists not get a bigger cut of the money that was supposedly stolen from them? Why is the money being used to buy politicians and government agencies not being used to actually pay the artists who were allegedly stolen from?

See, the public has grown weary of the narrative from the copyright industry. They’re tired of being told that they’re thieves for having a popular song as their ringtone. They’re annoyed from decades of being told that Home Taping is Killing Music, and yet seeing that the industry shows no signs of even a slow demise. They’re tired of being told that they’re the cause of musicians being screwed over by labels despite paying full price for content.

It didn’t need to be this way. But in the same way that nobody gives a flying fuck about a couple hundred people taken over the Gaza border, the industry made themselves wholly unsympathetic.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Pointing out that nobody cares about the hostages taken on October 7 is not being a Nazi. Against the backdrop of what Israel’s doing and the situation in the Gaza Strip right now, at best only the hostages’ immediately families care about them returning.

Not even Israel’s general public approves of the conflict as far as it’s developed, or that the Prime Minister should stay in power. The attention is absolutely on the shit that the Palestinians are in, not the hostages that even the army can’t be bothered to rescue properly.

Just ask Stephen T Stone.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'Anti-what now? We've got more important things to focus on!'

It’s a good thing that all the other problems the FTC might actually have expertise and jurisdiction over are solved and don’t need any attention otherwise this sure would seem to be them butting into a field where they clearly have no gorram clue what they’re talking about while ignoring work they could and should be doing.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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This is the question asked by every industry. Workers do what they do because at a bare minimum, they’d prefer not to starve.

On the other hand, when they realize that expected milestones like home ownership, a functioning retirement and building a family are increasingly out of reach, we’re due for another Great Wave of Resignation soon.

And frankly it cannot come sooner enough. You see so many CEOs desperate to see asses back in office seats again, chomping at the bit to get Amazon warehouse workers and drivers to pee in a bottle, to get numbers back up to pre-pandemic levels.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Quick question: If I learned how to read and/or write from reading a crapton of books how much should I be obligated to pay the publishers for that skill?

Follow up question, if I use that skill to make money does and to what extent would that change the above answer?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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It IS a valid argument, and thinking it isn’t just because your hatred of procedural content generators (or more importantly, the NDT shills pushing this half-baked technology onto the masses for the sake of making that fucking line go up) blinds you to the very fucking obvious doesn’t invalidate their argument.

People DO learn from reading and writing. Do we have to pay the publishers for the privilege of learning basic fucking literacy?

If you can answer this question without frothing at the mouth, then we can move on to the second argument.

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