Carmakers Push Forward With Plans To Make Basic Features Subscription Services, Despite Widespread Backlash

from the breathing-clean-air-will-now-cost-extra dept

Automakers are increasingly obsessed with turning everything into a subscription service in a bid to boost quarterly returns. We’ve noted how BMW has embraced making heated seats and other features already in your car a subscription service, and Mercedes has been making better gas and EV engine performance something you have to pay extra for — even if your existing engine already technically supports it.

And despite widespread backlash (BMW had to backtrack on many of its plans), the auto industry shows absolutely no indication they’re going to back away from their plan, with numerous automakers currently working on efforts to “subscriptionize” basic functions and features. And now they’re apparently trying to pretend that this shift is necessary to finance the shift to EVs:

Alistair Weaver, editor-in-chief at Edmunds, says automakers are counting on the new revenue stream to pay for the expensive transition to electric cars.

“So if your car payment is 600 bucks a month, it’s now $675,” Weaver said.

There are several problems here. One, most of the tech they want to charge a recurring fee to use is already embedded in the car you own. And its cost is already rolled into the retail cost you’ve paid. They’re effectively disabling technology you already own, then charging you a recurring additional monthly fee just to re-enable it. It’s a Cory Doctorow nightmare dressed up as innovation.

The other problem: nobody genuinely wants this shit. Surveys have already shown how consumers widely despise paying their car maker a subscription fee for pretty much anything, whether that’s an in-car 5G hotspot or movie rentals via your car’s screen. Other studies indicate that consumers are generally opposed to making functions subscription based, unless they wind up paying less overall:

Alix Partners, a global consulting firm, found that more than 60% of consumers are willing to consider subscribing for enhanced safety and convenience features as long they don’t feel like they are being charged for something they already paid for.

“A lot of people in the auto industry certainly use Apple as a shining light on the hill,” said Mark Wakefield, Alix Partners CEO.

“The car has to be cheaper, plus this option of subscribing,” Wakefield added.

But there’s zero chance that consumers will ever pay less. I’ve often seen carmakers like BMW try to pretend that turning heated seats and other features into recurring subscriptions lowers the vehicle retail cost, but I’ve not seen any evidence to indicate that’s actually true.

The entire point of integrating subscription systems like these is to please Wall Street’s insatiable, often myopic desire for consistent, upwardly scaling, improved quarterly returns. Once implemented, the subscription costs will inevitably be jacked steadily skyward to please Wall Street. It’s simply how these things work. The end result is higher overall costs, and annoying new subscription systems to manage.

There’s a whole bunch of additional unintentional consequences of this kind of shift. Right to repair folks will be keen on breaking down these phony barriers, and automakers (already busy fighting tooth and nail against right to repair reform) will increasingly respond by doing things like making enabling tech you already own and paid for a warranty violation.

The shift toward endless subscriptions for basic functions may not annoy folks with endless piles of disposable income, but for the majority of Americans that struggle to even afford new vehicle costs already, it’s hard to not see this impacting new car sales — or driving more users to older, used cars with dumber tech.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Relax guys. Hackers will fix this.

Strawman response: but, but we’re required to have cars in the US…

You mean to tell me that if you:
1.buy a used car without this crap instead
2.tell the car dealership(s) why you refuse to buy this car-as-a-$ubscription (CAA$) foolishness
3.also tell you local congressional critter why you won’t stand for this, and demand that they get up and do something about this if they want to be re-elected
nothing will change?

Please, take off the victim hats and get real. If we, the consumers, allow this CAA$ crap to take hold, then we get what we deserve.

mick says:

Re: Re:

You seem to believe that communicating this to the dealer would be meaningful, and somehow reported to the car company.

Why do you believe this? Have you never had a job? Did you care why customers were buying one thing instead of another, to the point of communicating customer preferences to the manufacturer?

What I’m saying is that the dealer is irrelevant here. There’s exactly one thing consumers can do, and it’s to not buy cars with this shit. Everything else is meaningless.

Narcissus (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

As a person who is currently the lucky haver of a job with a company that produces stuff (not cars though):

Yes, if we get consistent feedback from our sales that customers don’t like a certain feature and buy something else because of it, we change that feature. We even involve customers when designing new products and ask their opinion before bringing something to the market. Revolutionary I know!

If your top line is dependent on selling stuff, you try to make sure your customer likes your stuff.

Maybe car manufacturers can ignore their customer’s preferences a bit. Some people have very emotional connections with car brands and would buy a certain brand whatever (BMW might actually pull that off to an extent). That is however not the mass market and pissing off loyal customers is not a long term viable strategy.

That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

And with the righties convinced the new booze detection requirement in the law is going to be used to shut off peoples cars for wrongthink, the value of used cars will end up being high enough that people might need to pursue the apple car model.

You want to pay for the transition to EV, crazy idea…
How about you only pay the CEO 400% more than the average worker instead of 1000% more.

Addicted says:

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There’s no comparison between a treadmill which is an optional nice to have and a personal car, which in 95% of the U.S. is a prerequisite to exist and live life.

That being said, I do agree that this is not unexpected and is the direction of the world, and should be ok as long as basic essential functions are not impacted.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

I think I have one of the treadmills in question. I can still just hit the manual button and use it as a treadmill. I’m only missing out of most of the personal trainer stuff that I don’t want anyway.

If I cared enough, I could put in the special code and install netflix or really any android software I really wanted to.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I think I have one of the treadmills in question. I can still just hit the manual button and use it as a treadmill. I’m only missing out of most of the personal trainer stuff that I don’t want anyway.

That makes more sense. I was afraid that there might be treadmills which don’t let you use them manually without a subscription.

Regardless, when you bought the treadmill you almost certainly paid a retail price that took into account the extra time and money the company needed to restrict what the software can do. So a small portion of what you paid for the treadmill went toward dead weight.

Anonymous Coward says:

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“Just because you already paid for the hardware doesn’t mean you should get to use it for free going forward.”

That’s exactly what it means actually. Through a legal transaction, I became the owner of a car to with as I want, and the first sale doctrine means the manufacturer should have no say or control after that point.

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Anonymous Coward says:

How it really started

Once they allowed software (like Windows, Adobe, etc.) that you BOUGHT to be considered a license or subscription, it was only a matter of time before other industries realized they could do it also.

There is no reason, aside from bought politicians, that this situation cannot be remedied.

Ninja says:

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You see, at the very least when you get a software subscription you actually get value for it (disregarding if the amount charged is fair or not considering the value). You get up to date versions, you often get storage and other perks. Of course there are the greedy imbeciles like Autodesk or Adobe that charge a limb and possibly a Kidney for it so ordinary people that don’t earn anything remotely enough to afford the subscription and buy food and pay for their subsistence will mostly pirate it.

That said, you get absolutely zero benefit for subscriptions that limit what you can do with what you already have in your car and won’t be upgraded ever like heated seats. Not to mention it’s an environmental disaster since if people decide they won’t pay for this BS (and it seems they won’t) then the parts will be just waste in the end, never used.

I say Wall Street needs collective moralizing kicks in the gonads for this fuckery. And the ones in the manufacturers that decided this is a good idea need that and moralizing punches in the face for the audacity.

Enshitification is beautiful. And it kills the planet faster.

Anonymous Coward says:

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You see, at the very least when you get a software subscription you actually get value for it…….you often get storage and other perks.

And trapped into maintaining the subscription to keep access to your data where the file formats are proprietary, or it is stored in that storage. Also, where a free, or cheap version is made available, what features are enables can be changed, causing problems in continuing with a project without rework or finding a different tool to meet your needs.

Anonymous Coward says:

Computer cars are crappy.

As long as people can’t access or change the code on the silicon controlling their modern cars, crap like this can, and will very likely, keep cropping up.

Even though the idea of electric vehicles is very cool. I’d rather ride a horse or bicycle than be forced to drive these always-online nightmares.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Depends of what people can change, either software or hardware parts, of their cars. Fixing the heating or air conditioning, or even the stereo system or the color of the dashboard light, that’s pretty much okay (and it used to be popular and known as “car tuning” not so long ago) but what about these “enhanced safety” devices, I won’t feel safe if I know that my neighbor love to mess with some cables in my car just because he watched a random tutorial on internet.

Anon says:

Re: My Thought too...

Why would I pay for something my phone already does. It also does a hotspot if I want to use an iPad.

OTOH $100/month is cheaper than thousands of dollars for FSD, especially if I only activate it when I want to go on extended trips. A susbscription makes sense financially if… it makes sense financially. I bouht FSD back when it was cheaper, I own it no strings attached on my Model 3 until it dies.

Heated seats? I got by for decades without them, and the last 4 cars had that included. Why would I pay an ongoing fee if that’s what my next car takes? I can suffer.

Maps? My 2014 BMW still shows me driving through empty fields. I will survive this indignity. Garage door opener? My BMW has all sorts of tricks and computer shit, but no door opener and no adaptive cruise control. Those too should be built in, not pay-as-you-go

If it’s a basic function then why buy the car if it doesn’t work with the purchase price? After all, especially with cheap Detroit shit, sooner or later the subscriptions per year will total more than the value of the vehicle… WTF?

Ninja says:

I love new tech, I really do. But I’m being driven away from it more and more because of this kind of fuckery. I refuse to buy anything that requires a connection to function.

FFs, I just wanted a DUMB TV these days but it’s virtually impossible to find one. I ended up getting a big PC monitor and I’m using it as a TV. If I need anything bigger I”m going for a laser projector.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Don’t ever have any open wifi connections.

But if you do have one… what? You should move? Install wi-fi-blocking paint? Active jamming would be a very bad idea, in terms of legality.

I’m not aware of any verifiable claim of a TV model that does this, though. I’m worried they will, but so far, people have just claimed it, and disappeared when asked to name a specific model.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

coming out-of-the-box with an array of exploits they can target whatever WiFi router they see

No need for that. It’ll be billed as a partnership with Comcast or whoever (who, by the way, leave the ISP-provided routers open for use by their other customers), or the TVs will include cellular modems like the cars do. It’s surprisingly cheap for a manufacturer to get a “permanent” (till the modem becomes obsolete) very-low-usage plan; by offering to share data-revenue with the carrier, one might even get it for free.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

“While jamming data does not break fcc rules”

The Communications Act of 1934, as amended, prohibits the operation, manufacture, importation, marketing, and sale of equipment designed to jam or otherwise interfere with authorized radio communications, such as radar, global positioning system (GPS), and cell phone communications. These jamming devices pose significant risks to public safety and potentially compromise other radio communications services.

https://www.fcc.gov/enforcement/areas/jammers

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Because cellular data is not on the same wavelengths than voice

As of “4G”, voice data uses the “Voice over LTE” (VoLTE) protocol. That’s based on Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), which means all voice traffic is indistinguishable from data at the radio level. When 2G and 3G are shut down, as is happening worldwide (which is why people are having to throw out their old phones), all cellular voice traffic will be internet-protocol data.

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Strawb (profile) says:

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At the end of the day, they’re private companies and can do what they like.

Don’t like it? Make your own car.

Oh yes, trying to create a suitable replacement. The only solution to greedy business fuckery, as we all know.

Apart from, you know, just not giving in to the greedy business fuckery in the first place.

Anonymous Coward says:

I could see shops in Mexico making money by it scjomg cars to circumvent that

The same thing with the government “kill switch’ staring in 2026 and the speed limiters to.kepp.you from going over the speed limit

First, the DMCA does not apply in Mexico, so a shop in Mexico to that did that could not be prosecuted in.the United states.

Second, the anti circumventtion.provisions of dmca do not apply to end user because it is not necessary mg done for financial gain because you are not making money. Financial gain means making money

I would not be surprised if some police departments take their cars to Mexico and get the electronic speed limitees deleted. Ford limits their police vehicles to 140 and Chrysler to 150.

They would be breaking no laws going to Mexico and getting speed limomiters deleted so they can catch suspects that would otherwise “dust” the

nasch (profile) says:

Re: Re:

And remember, the diva does not apply to personal use, as it is not for financial gain, making money.

I think what you’re trying to say is that the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA only apply to commercial activities. If so, that is false. There is no exception for personal non-commercial activity.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

There’s nothing stopping you from removing or swapping out a component though. Want adaptive cruse? Best buy. A heated seat that closely matches the interior? Ebay or Amazon or the local custom furniture store.
Gos and auto start? Walmart.
Serius xm wants me to pay to tempts start my car. A $30 part works just as well, has no subscription, and is safer with rolling key codes. Platforms like tile and HomeKit with AirTags make tracking, finding, and securing a vehicle easy. One time fee.

I’m not sure what these companies think is going to happen, but it’s not going to go the way they hope.

LostInLoDOS (profile) says:

Bubye dealership service

This isn’t going to work. Though the tinker and tune idea in. This country has been regulated to small scenes, racers, classics, imports, it’s still huge combined.
The idea of a little rewiring or swapping out a seat or dash panel is far from dead.
Finding a shoppe to do the work and then service the car moving forward, wouldn’t be difficult. There’s nothing the dealerships can do except refuse service and it’s not like you can’t get the same or better service elsewhere. And warranty work, doesn’t require an authorised dealer despite what they say. Going 3rd party makes getting it paid for harder, but not impossible.

The idea of making us pay for something we already have isn’t going to work in this country.

Jamie says:

Where is the meat in this article?

This has to be one of the worst articles I’ve seen here in a long time. It goes off on a long tirade about how vehicle manufacturers are turning to subscription fees, while simultaneously only giving a single example: BMW’s heated seats, which was a failure and they’re backing away from.

If you’re going to write about this subject, there are different categories that you need to acknowledge.

The most insidious is the most recent: replacing commonly-expected functionality with always-online versions that require a subscription fee. The most obvious example of this is GM/Ultium moving to Android Automotive (the one that’s built into the car) and disabling Android Auto (the one that’s on your phone) and Apple CarPlay. A monthly subscription is required for things like navigation to work at all.

The next category is functionality that’s present in the vehicle, but which requires requires a subscription or activation fee to use. For example:
* BMW and heated seats.
* BMW and Apple CarPlay in the early-mid 2010s.
* Mercedes Acceleration Increase, an annual subscription that remove artificial performance limits in their EQ range of EVs.
* Tesla disabling Autopilot or Full Self Driving when their cars are sold to a new owner.

These are obvious money grabs. The functionality is present and useable, and the only thing stopping it from being used is a paywall. It’s bullshit, but at least these feature are optional.

The last category are quality of life services that have an ongoing cost to provide. For example:
* The car having its own mobile connection for online services.
* Online search for destinations.
* Rerouting navigation based on live traffic updates.
* A mobile app for remotely monitoring the vehicle.

It would be nice if it was just included with the cost of the vehicle, and should it be for the first few years. But after this period, it seems reasonable to charge a small fee to cover the ongoing cost of providing these services.

And if someone doesn’t want to pay, the loss of functionality should either be a very minor inconvenience (mobile app) or replaceable (Apple CarPlay or Android Auto).

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