Hey Ricky Schroder: Porn Is Protected By The 1st Amendment
from the only-in-the-Fifth-Circuit dept
Do you all remember Ricky Schroder? He is a former child actor who became prominent thanks to TV series like Silver Spoons and NYPD Blue. While I could reminisce about old TV for hours, it is worth noting that Ricky Schroder has become a darling for the far-right. You might remember him from his greatest hits of yelling at a Costco worker in Los Angeles for refusing him access to the store in 2021 for not wearing a facemask, per the local mask requirements created to protect against the spread of COVID-19. In recent months, Schroder entered right-wing political advocacy and lobbying by establishing the so-called ‘Council on Pornography Reform.’ Conservative news outlet The Western Journal was the most recent media to cover Schroder’s work to “protect the kids” and push legal textualism.
Without really noticing at the time (my bad), the Council on Pornography Reform and a coalition of other terrible far-right and anti-pornography groups filed an amicus brief with the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals at the end of September. Currently, adult industry companies and the industry’s advocacy organization, the Free Speech Coalition, are fighting an appeal brought by the state of Texas dealing with the state’s age verification and porn labeling law, House Bill (HB) 1181. The plaintiffs, made up of the parent companies of the largest pornography brands in the world, were able to convince Senior U.S. District Judge David Alan Ezra of the Western District of Texas to block HB 1181 before it entered into force on September 1. Mike Masnick, Ari Cohn, Corbin K. Barthold, others, and myself have written for Techdirt and other outlets (Cohn’s column on the Ezra ruling at The Daily Beast), all commenting that Judge Ezra’s decision that corresponds to existing case law and the intent of Justice William J. Brennan Jr.’s interpretation of the First Amendment to cover a broad “freedom of expression.” Pornography is included. However, the Fifth Circuit, the appeals court equivalent of the short bus, issued an administrative stay on the preliminary injunction Ezra produced, allowing House Bill 1181 to be enforced while litigation plays out. The administrative stay was granted after then-acting Texas Attorney General Angela Colmenero appealed the Fifth Circuit to hear arguments about overturning the Ezra injunction.
The appeal was granted, and oral arguments were heard on October 4. A decision from the court has yet to be handed down. According to PACER, two amicus briefs were filed. The brief I first noticed was, naturally, the amicus submitted by famed First Amendment counsel Robert Corn-Revere on behalf of the American Civil Liberties Union, TechFreedom, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Foundation for Individual Rights & Expression, Center for Democracy & Technology, and Media Coalition Foundation. These groups urged the three-judge panel to uphold the lower court’s injunction and to affirm that House Bill 1181 violates the First Amendment of adult entertainment websites and adult users of these sites logging on from Texas IP addresses. But the second amicus brief was filed by counsel representing Schroder’s group, the Council on Pornography Reform, and a slate of other far-right astroturfing groups. These groups include Michael Flynn’s America’s Future, the Public Advocate of the United States, and a few conservative textualist groups with terrible or no websites. Note that Public Advocate, founded by Eugene Delgaudio, has been classified as a hate group by the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center for general and anti-LGBTQ+ hate.
The Western Journal reported on October 16 that the amicus brief is a step to “protect children” from pornography and what these groups view as obscene. Central to their argument is saying that the U.S. Constitution, let alone the First Amendment, only protects “political speech.” This is an obnoxious argument used by conservatives for decades to try and limit interpretations of the First Amendment to cover forms of expression that are literally outlined in the amendment and do not protect what they would argue are implied rights of expression. To wit, the amicus brief refers to Justice Brennan’s definition of “freedom of expression” as “devoid of meaning.” They also apply an antiquated definition of obscenity that predates the Miller test to guide the analysis of the Fifth Circuit. Counsel for the anti-porn groups literally makes up terms to refer to utilizing a less-nuanced textualist review of the law. The call for the Fifth Circuit to overturn Ezra’s ruling and apply a so-called “textually faithful” analysis of the law. But what’s more disconcerting is a reliance on case law and previous decisions affirming a right to expression, implied or not, as a protected element of the First Amendment. As long as no law has been broken, the standard for classifying something as illegal or even “obscene” is entirely subjective. Obscenity case law is by no means simple or consistent. Nevertheless, U.S. courts in recent decades have decided that obscenity applies primarily to content that is classified as child sexual abuse material, other types of content depicting the exploitation of real-life human children, non-consensual intimate images (NCII; also known as ‘revenge porn’), and other depictions of sexual violence and exploitation.
The Miller test is the standard used in most obscenity cases, in part, because it requires a judge or jury to determine whether specific material meets the threshold of being obscene. Obscenity is in the eye of the beholder. Since First Amendment concerns for the vast majority of people often do supersede the concerns of a tiny minority, obscenity in any interpretation of the First Amendment has to be legitimately illegal, heinous content. Why do you think the obscenity provisions built into laws like the Communications Decency Act, the Child Online Protection Act, and the Child Pornography Prevention Act were all struck down by the Supreme Court for First Amendment violations? These statutes infringed on the First Amendment rights of the vast majority of users of the internet. At that, it is worth reminding you all that the court found that CPPA was broadly violating the First Amendment rights of adult performers and producers who create virtual taboo and fetish material. The Supreme Court in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition affirmed this view.
Beyond the obvious ideological undertones of the anti-pornography groups (they reference the Holy Bible in the amicus brief), it shows a willful ignorance of First Amendment case law that anyone–an 8th-grade civics student, a first-year law student, a doctor, a bus driver–could beat in a court of law. You’d hope that an actor who once played a cop on TV could figure that out. I implore the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals to not fall for these flawed arguments.
Michael McGrady covers the tech side of the online porn business, among other things. He is the contributing editor for politics and legal at AVN.com.
Filed Under: 1st amendment, 5th circuit, adult content, free expression, free speech, porn, ricky schroder
Companies: council on pornography reform, free speech coalition


Comments on “Hey Ricky Schroder: Porn Is Protected By The 1st Amendment”
Do we have to?
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Amen.
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lol – have to laugh every time TD publishes content from a literal degenerate like Michael McGrady of AVN, a parasitic group of perverts who make their money lauding the rape and abuse characteristic of so much porn production.
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Yeah right wingers and Christians are the worst.
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a parasitic group of perverts
At least we know where all the priests and nuns are going, as their churches’ memberships plummet.
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So. Now we know just where you spend your time when not proving your idiocy here on TD. The fact that you think a minority of porn is the “vast majority” is telling, very telling.
Or should we be asking a more pertinent question: Just how do “know” so much about porn that you can give an approximate breakdown of the types of porn being produced, eh? Or at least the type that seems to offend you?
Next time, before spouting off, you might take a moment and ask yourself a question: If I post this, am I going to get a reply on the order of Every accusation a confession?
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Your favorite Hamas-supporter and fellow traveler told me:
“[Porn] corporations prey on callow young women and trap them legally into contracts when they’re vulnerable.” (source: “Why are people silent about the abuses and exploitation in porn?”; by Yomi Adegoke; The Guardian; Thu 15 Aug 2019)
Also, the Regent University Center for Global Justice explained, “The pornography industry is complicit in the exploitation of victims and users of pornography, especially young children who are exploited through pornography exposure on their websites.” (source: “Pornography Exploits Everyone”; by Lauren Moustakas; Regents University Center for Global Justice; April 2020)
#BelieveWomen
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hi jhon
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Okay, first source I’ll give props for. Granted, article overall pulled from the testimony of only one person and is in need of other corroborating testimony it’s still good starting attempt at an argument.
Second Source… That’s where things get noticeably off
Regents University Center for Global Justice…
So the law department of a Christian University, which itself sprung from a Television Network with a focus on evangelical programing.
The law department who’s literal mission statement is geared toward “Christian advocates”.
Granted, they apparently help victims of human trafficking which is admirable. Yet is a rather biased sample for the ‘all porn is bad’ argument.
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Stop being fair and nuanced. It hurts my brain!
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With the first source, fair, but it only pulls from a single source and needs corroboration. It also doesn’t explain why porn, not just some corporations that produce porn, is bad, evil, exploitative, and horrible. Still, at least the source doesn’t appear to be biased, and the content is at least relevant and in line with your claim.
With the second source, though… That’s a religious group, explicitly so, so they necessarily have a bias. Sure, they do seem to be helping deal with human trafficking, which is laudable, but hardly a neutral source.
My biggest issue, though, may be the “quote” you started off with. I was immediately suspicious when I saw that the only part of the quote that was not in brackets (indicating a deviation from a verbatim quote) was the question mark at the end. How is it even a quote at that point?
Still, it would have been fine if you were just paraphrasing. Unfortunately, that doesn’t appear to be the case.
The actual questions are:
They were asked in response to this quote:
So, in other words, a better paraphrase would be:
At least try to incorporate some of the original words when quoting something in this sort of context. Or don’t present it as a quote at all.
I also object to you referring to either Yomi Adegoke or the Guardian (it’s not clear which) as “your favorite Hamas-supporter and fellow traveler”. I mean, for one thing, it’s well-poisoning. For another, you know nothing about this AC’s position on the Israel-Hamas conflict or whether or not they travel.
Finally, why didn’t you post any URLs? Sure, you did give enough information for us to find the original sources, but I feel like a URL would’ve been better. That’s just a minor nitpick, though.
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The fact that you think a minority of porn is the “vast majority” is telling, very telling.
But it is the vast majority. The vast majority of what ‘Evil Matthew Bennett Ramsey’ watches, that is.
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There’s definitely some issues with porn production, yes.
Sexual abuse (sometimes), not upholding contracts, being unable to perform on-call…
Good thing porn unions exist. At least in the USA.
Your silly little diatribe would have SOME effect in Japan, where it’s rumored that the porn industry is simply another front for organized crime. Sadly, McGrady covers the AMERICAN SCENE.
I’m free to be corrected, though, as long as you bring actual facts.
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Wow.
Amazing. One of MM’s TD readers describes advocating for protecting potential victims from exploitation in the porn industry as going on a “…silly little diatribe.”
That’s the mindset of many TD readers – exploit the weak and vulnerable for their own depraved satisfaction, and laugh about it to those who object.
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Again, porn unions exist. I’d suggest any pornstar to join those.
They’ll do more to protect pornstars than fascist grandstanding that’s actually a red herring for them to control people and their bodies.
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…hallucinated nobody mentally competent, ever.
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It is people seeing through your protect the actors to the real intent destroy the pron industry.
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The point is that what you have a problem with may well not be indicative of the US porn industry as a whole.
Seriously, do you have an actual argument? They didn’t just dismiss it as a “silly little diatribe”; they said it might be a real issue that’d make a meaningful difference in Japan, but that there are factors present in the US that suggest it’s not as big of a problem here, to the extent there is a problem.
Like, I’m sure that there are victims in the porn industry; every other segment of the entertainment industry has had such a problem. Yes, we should deal with these issues. Where I begin to disagree is that this is somehow particular to the porn industry, at least demonstrably so, in the US, or how that justifies harsher restrictions on viewing porn rather than on producing porn. There is also the question of what role—if any—the government should play in all this.
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It’s always interesting that when you make this sort of claim, you never provide evidence. Not a hint of an attempt of trying to oppose what’s said in the article itself, but plenty of wild accusations against the character of the author, with zero reason why the casual reader should accept your claims.
Why is that?
I’ll listen to right wingers and Christians when they get rid of all the pedos in their ranks.
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I’ll listen to Christians when they prove that their God exists.
Age verification online allows the tracking of individuals use of the web.Client side scanning mandates spyware on users devices. Both ideas are being pushed by those who control society. Anybody else see a pattern?
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No, it’s not the rich guys (the ones who actually control society through puppets), they don’t give a fuck about us peons. It’s the ego-centric pricks with a particular imaginary friend (and his imaginary son) that want to control the rest of us… for our own good, of course.
Not on my watch they don’t get to do that.
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Who is being funded by some of those rich fucks who hate progressiveness.
Koch Industries, News Corp, the crazy pillow guy, the telecom monopolies, Sinclair Broadcasting…
So uh.
I’d take them more seriously if they shared their browsing histories before they threw away the tissues and cleared it.
But this, though, is the 5th circuit!
The solution to all of this is for porn sites to start actively using Xshitter to advertise/distribute their content.
The advertising dollars would be something Musk can’t turn down since X is hemorrhaging money the same as his Cybertruck.
The conservatives who can barely shit with the sticks so far up their asses would have to both advocate for censorship and non-censorship simultaneously. Including Musk, which I’m certain would handle it just as well as he handled the rest of anything that required him to open his mouth in public.
Same conservatives would then be pressed to censor Twatter in states where the Puritans continue to deny human biology, which would cause their heads to explode, given that banning Twatter would deprive them both porn, and their favorite nazi shows.
Late-night comedians would continue to have material to make fun of these idiots for the foreseeable future.
Prove me wrong.
These people spend more time focused on other peoples’ privates than someone who watches porn. Unreal, man.
Child stars...
Screech’s penis has entered the chat…
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Well thats a unique pointer for an Ouija board.
You’d hope that an actor who once played a cop on TV could figure that out.
Just like their real-life counterparts, tv cops aren’t expected to actually know the laws they are tasked to enforce!
Reading through it, this filing hardly limits itself to concerns about porn, it effectively argues that aside from “political speech”, state and local governments should be allowed to censor any content as they wish as nearly nothing has what we think of as first amendment protections and that legislating morality is an acceptable government goal so such censorship would be a compelling government interest. Such arguments if ever taken up by the legal system could potentially expand drastically into mainstream content produced over the past century. It effectively argues that it would be acceptable to have Chinese style censorship outside of a small “political” exemption.
Porn Is Protected By The 1st Amendment -- So What?
None of the political advocacy groups really give a damn about the constitution. Or, at best, only care when it supports their position.
He’s got his points to make, and he’s going to make them, and assume (with some justification) that most of his listeners are as uninterested in the 1st amendment as he is.
As I see it, there really is no downside in this for him. At worst, the 5th circuit will ignore him. So what!
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The ACLU, which (as noted in the article) was represented in one of the amicus briefs, once stood up for Nazis in regards to the First Amendment. Few people/organizations would be willing to publicly side with Nazis on anything, including their right to speak freely in public. If the ACLU is willing to stick its neck out like that, it must care about the Constitution far more than you would ever care to admit.
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You just answered your rhetorical question.
It is the 5th Circuit that’s consciously trying to ignore the 1st Amendment, nit the ACLU or any of thenpeople opposing this fascist grandstanding bullshit.
As usual...
The only right that Republicans really worry about is the right to bear arms. And a lot of that is just pandering to lobbyists, anyway. Speech, unreasonable search and seizure, religion… those are all just optional.
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Well, not entirely, I suspect that if a nationwide campaign to arm minorities for self-defense was put together suddenly republicans would be all for restrictions on gun ownership, as I believe happened during the civil rights era though I can’t remember any specific details.
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You’re thinking of the Mulford Act and how it was enacted to disarm the Black Panthers.
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Ah yes, that does seem to be what I was thinking of, thanks for pinpointing the specifics based on my general remembrance.
Unrelated, but Ricks daughters Faith and Cambria have both modeled lingerie on their Instagram accounts in the past.
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Possibly not unrelated, then.