Techdirt Podcast Episode 338: Scrutinizing “The Twitter Files”
from the not-much-there dept
Last Friday evening, Elon Musk and Matt Taibbi dropped a non-bombshell on everyone, with the revelation of internal Twitter documents about the content moderation around Hunter Biden’s laptop that showed… nothing particularly unusual or notable happened, and there’s no evidence of government interference. Over the weekend, Mike was interviewed by Justin Hendrix for the Tech Policy Press podcast for a closer look at just what was contained in “the Twitter Files”, and we’ve got the whole conversation for you here on this week’s episode.
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Twitter can’t censor the internet, but they can sway their own platform, though most involved are already swayed.
Bring USENET back if you want free speech.
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What about Mastodon?
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Or IRC?
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You utter fucking cowards
It reveals that the US government (FBI, specifically) as well the as the DNC put their fingers on the scale, suppressed information they didn’t like. It reveals Gadde was just as bad as everyone (but you and the left) claimed, and that you’re utter lying turd-burgers.
And you have the nerve to claim it’s…..nothing. Well, I guess when you can’t admit you’re wrong, just double down, eh?
Jesus christ you’re corrupt.
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The files literally say that there’s no evidence of government interference at Twitter regarding the laptop story. Why are you claiming that there is?
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Yeol Roth’s sworn testimony to the FEC says otherwise.
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Ready for your weekly hissy fit crybabby?
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No, it doesn’t. According to his testimony, no government agencies told them what to do; only what to be on the lookout for. This is standard operating procedure for large social media companies, and probably part of the reason why he and Dorsey felt that they mishandled it.
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Re: Re: Re:2 Jawboning
Thats called Jawbowning you ignorant fuck. Its as unconstitutional as a direct threat.
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Then I think you should go ahead and sue the government for abusing their power, since you apparently have it on record that they did.
On the other hand, you are delusional, so your lawsuit would probably be laughed out of court.
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Please do explain to the class how in the fuck the DNC, a group so spineless and pathetic they fucking allow the Republicans to perform a fucking insurrection and call for the suspension of the Constitution, engaged in censorship?
Especially when Russian tool Matt Tabibi has revealed nothing of the sort? And that the removed tweets were literally REVENGE PORN?
Are you saying we should start engaging in revenge porn as well? Or worse?
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Yeah, all that suppression meant nobody heard about the Hunter Biden laptop story until the reveal of the “Twitter Files”~. It was never in the news at all until a few days ago~.
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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but it really kinda wasn’t. It hasn’t been covered with any of the deph it deserves.
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Except it was. That it didn’t get wall-to-wall 24/7 coverage for months on CNN or Fox News doesn’t mean the story wasn’t in the news—or that the then-Trump-controlled federal government somehow convinced every news outlet that wasn’t the New York Post and every social media service to suppress the story.
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Since the FBI (at the time) and the DNC were ostensibly on opposite sides of that scale, it doesn’t really sound like something to get this frothy about.
I’m curious to know why you’re so upset about being denied access to Hunter’s nudes. You a fan?
Actually you were only denied access to a link on one social media platform to a website that was freely available at all times. If you weren’t prepared to make the minimal effort to go to the website yourself, maybe you’re not such a big fan after all.
Every accusation an admission.
So, To Sum Up
Al Capone’s “vault” redux. For those that don’t get that: nothing burger with fries.
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How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that’s the case? Twitter literally engaged in more “election interference” in 2020 than Russia did in 2016. THERE IS LITERAL PROOF.
You want that to be true. It is not true.
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You mean the proof that says “There’s no evidence of any government involvement in the laptop story”. That proof?
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“In a declaration submitted with Twitter’s Response, the head of Twitter’s Site Integrity Team attests that Twitter received official warnings throughout 2020 from federal law enforcement that “malign state actors” might hack and release materials associated with political campaigns and that Hunter Biden might be a target of one such operation.”
https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7827/7827_12.pdf
Did Yoel Roth lie to the FEC?
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No, because tipoffs are not collusion, and Twitter still has the right to ignore these tips.
But then again, you don’t seem to want to discuss the ethics of the state informing internet service operators about threats to their operations.
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Bantam Books v. Sullivan 1963, not legal you moron.
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That has to do with ruling books obscene, not with government officials giving private entities a warning about things said entities may want to watch out for—a warning, I remind you, that those entities aren’t obligated to act on. And I should note that at the time of the warnings, Donald Trump was the sitting president of the United States, not Joe Biden.
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Jawboning is jawboning
Your interpretation of scotus precedence would mean Brown v. Board of Education only applied to public schools.
Luckily you are a fucking moron.
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…says Mr. Public House-ing.
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All Chozen has provided evidence for is that we can add “under color of law” to the extensive library of legal concepts far beyond his extremely limited comprehension.
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Sullivan 1963 didn’t involve law enforcement. It was simply a government commission. I think you are one of those special stupid fucks who believe that Sullivan only applies if there is a direct threat of government force.
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And you are so stupid that anything that happens that you do mot like must be a conspiracy against you.
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“Sullivan 1963 didn’t involve law enforcement. It was simply a government commission. I think you are one of those special stupid fucks who believe that Sullivan only applies if there is a direct threat of government force.”
“And you are so stupid that anything that happens that you do mot like must be a conspiracy against you.”
How the fuck does that even follow? How fucking dumb are you.
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You mean where they took things down and banned people at the request of the DNC? Including the laptop.
Jesus fuck wghat a strawman.
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… said nobody not on hallucinogens, ever.
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Please provide evidence that they took things down and banned people at the request of the DNC.
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Like having white supremacists intimidate voters at the ballot box under the lie of “protecting the vote”?
Like having important politicians being inside a voting center during voting day to “interact” with the voters?
Like suppressing legal voters through gerrymandering, obfuscating the voting process, hire ahoddy electronic, hackable voting machines and us8ng dead people to vote?
Like starting a fucking insurrection to “stop the steal”?
Tipoffs are not collusion. Stop lying, polluting and spreading uncertainty.
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Add:
The Cochise county board of supervisors would not approve election results handing democrats wins until a judge ordered them to.
Trump calls to kill the Constitution,
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NetChoice
I’m really interested to hear Mike’s take in NetChoice’s involvement in all of this. Mike’s non-profit front group the Copia Institute has worked hand in glove with NetChoice in its legal battles but now it looks like NetChoice was serving as the go-between for democratic law makers illegal jawboning and BigTech.
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How’s that Shiva Ayyadurai fund coming along bro?
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How’s Mike’s little information non-profit the Copia Institute that stood to make a lot of money from the DHS secrete propaganda program coming along.
“Geoff Hale, the director of the Election Security Initiative at CISA, recommended the use of third-party information-sharing nonprofits as a “clearing house for information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.”
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23175380-dhs-cybersecurity-disinformation-meeting-minutes
What’s the COPAI institute again? Funny how Mike didn’t mention this part of the story in his retort. I wonder why? His silence was deafening. Was mikes COPAI Institute going to be one of these little government propaganda machines?
Mike writes a full retort that is basically ‘this was pulbic buried on page 9 of appendix C subsection E.’ As if that somehow makes it legal or right. But where the information wasn’t public. Where the source was a confidential memo. Where it was a major sandal and crime proposing to use information nonprofits to launder government propaganda Mike says absolutely nothing. Oh and Mike just happens to own and run an ‘information-sharing nonprofit.’
Makes you wonder doesn’t it?
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About you reasoning abilities for sure.
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I tagged Mike as a person would would do anything for a buck pretty easily. Research proved that most of his peers know him to be the exact same. Not stupid but also not too bright and will do absolutely anything for money is how his peers see him.
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” Not stupid but also not too bright and will do absolutely anything for money is how his peers see him.”
Hey crybabby you should worry more about how your peers see you.
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If that were the case, Techdirt and its content would look very different.
Are you sure you know how to research? You can’t just google “Who hates Mike Masnick?”.
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Then please actually sue him for that.
Oh wait. You don’t even know how that works, either.
So the “twitter files” are the same as the “google files” – a whole lot of empty partisan hot air believed only by the right-wing sheep programmed to.
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