Arizona Makes It Illegal To Record Cops From Less Than Eight Feet Away

from the is-that-8-cop-feet-or-8-civilian-feet? dept

Courts (with the rare exception) are in agreement: there’s a First Amendment right to film cops. With every citizen carrying a camera these days, there’s a lot more filming happening. And those recordings have often proven key when cops face criminal charges for violating rights or, you know, murdering people.

It’s little wonder cops aren’t thrilled about the recordings they can’t control. But that should be a cop problem that goes unresolved in the interest of improving accountability. Instead, the desire to curtail recordings by citizens has been taken up by legislators, who have created legislation that would criminalize this First Amendment activity if it takes place too close to cops.

One of the first such efforts was crafted by a Texas state representative, who wanted to create a 25-foot “no recording” halo around officers, ensuring the only “legal” recordings would be too far away from the action to undercut the police narrative.

Arizona legislators seem inordinately focused on violating First Amendment rights. A year after the Texas effort, a state legislator introduced a bill creating a 20-foot limit on recordings of police officers. The 2016 effort went nowhere, which should have discouraged legislators from introducing similarly stupid bills.

Instead, this encouraged state legislators. Following months of protests against police violence and the lack of accountability that allowed this violence to flourish, the same state rep (John Kavanaugh) who introduced the 2016 bill decided to try again. The only change was the length of the no recording distance, shrinking it from 20 feet to a mere 8 feet.

Because Arizona is a ass, the bill has received the governor’s approval and become law, as Lindsey Bever reports for the Washington Post.

A new Arizona law will make it illegal to film law enforcement encounters from closer than 8 feet away except in certain circumstances, such as when the person recording is the one being questioned by the authorities.

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey (R) signed the bill into law on Wednesday, which will make it a misdemeanor offense to record police activity at close range after officers have issued a verbal warning.

Apparently not satisfied with talking sympathetic legislators into passing this constitutional mess of a bill, Rep. Kavanaugh also talked AZ Central into posting his op-ed in support of his own legislation back in March, where he made some truly ridiculous supporting statements.

Opponents of the bill also claim that the videotaping of some recent high-profile police use of force incidents would not be possible under my bill. They are incorrect.

The first citizen video to expose police brutality was the Rodney King video, which was filmed from more than 100 feet away and still picked up details sufficient to be useful in court. In the more recent incident involving Freddie Gray, the video camera is clearly 8 to 10 feet away from Mr. Gray and might even be farther away because the photographer could have been using the phone’s zoom setting.

Finally, the argument that filming from 8 feet away does not allow for a proper view of the scene is ridiculous.

Good lord. What an argument. The Rodney King beating may have been caught on tape but all officers involved in the beating were acquitted. Not exactly the sort of thing that says accountability can be had if people are forced to record from a certain distance away. The Freddie Gray example is even worse, as charges against five of the six officers failed to result in a conviction. The sixth officer’s court case ended in a mistrial.

The op-ed makes it clear Kavanaugh’s real aim to hinder police accountability activists.

I agreed to run this bill because there are groups hostile to the police that follow them around to videotape police incidents, and they get dangerously close to potentially violent encounters. The Tucson police officers who asked me to run this bill said that in their area some of these people videotape from 1 to 2 feet behind them, even when they’re arresting people.

People who come this close to police officers generally don’t do it during arrests or violent interactions. But they often are confrontational when speaking to officers, whether they approach officers or the officers approach them. Many engage in what they refer to as “First Amendment audits,” seeing what the officers’ reactions are to being filmed by critics standing mere feet from them.

This is an important thing to do. Any cop can respect rights when it’s easy to do so. People standing several feet away passively recording are rarely harassed. It’s when it’s difficult to respect rights that officers tend to start violating them. Creating an 8-foot space simply makes it easier for cops to respect rights because it doesn’t challenge their ability to do so under (mild) duress.

The problem with this law is the cops get to decide what 8 feet is. And they can turn legal recordings into illegal recordings by approaching the people filming them. Sure, the recorded evidence might get a few bogus charges tossed, but the overall effect will be to chill protected speech by letting citizens know their First Amendment rights are only valid until a cop says otherwise.

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That Anonymous Coward (profile) says:

Why do they need this protection?

I mean it doesn’t seem to matter a majority of the time when there is video clearly showing the cops murdering someone, no one ends up charged & if they do magically they get off.

Its not like the videos are stopping them from violating peoples rights, its not like it leads to any changes… so the only reason to do this is to lock up the FOP giving you a good soundbite at election time about how you are making sure the cops can “protect” citizens, without any video records, right into their graves.

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Koby (profile) says:

Give Them Some Space

The Rodney King beating may have been caught on tape but all officers involved in the beating were acquitted.

The defense team turned the tables on the prosecution by using the video to their advantage. Exactly what was occurring on the video was never in question. Defense attorneys were able to justify police actions by showing that Mr. King was still attempting to stand up.

The Freddie Gray example is even worse, as charges against five of the six officers failed to result in a conviction.

The medical examination determined that all life-threatening injuries sustained by Mr. Gray occurred during transport. Video from during the arrest could not have shown the injuries in question.

In other words: from both of these circumstances, a closer vantage point would not have resulted in a different trial outcome.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

But all of the people standing next to the person who are also recording are guilty of a crime. An officer can generate criminals whenever they want by walking up to a group and asking one person a question.

In another fun scenario, if a person with ubiquitous recording renders aid to an officer during an interaction, the person rendering aid is guilty of a crime.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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Ah but you see cops are the most fragile people in existence(or the most easily distracted), where merely pointing a camera lens at them causes intense physical and mental reactions that make their jobs infinitely more difficult with the effects increasing the closer the lens is, hence why it’s so vital to keep any cameras they don’t control at a distance.

Anonymous Coward says:

So I guess this will outlaw security cameras in places cops are likely to frequent?

Does this mean Ring door cameras now how to shut off if a cop is detected (possibly within 8 feet)?

What about officers body cams? Does this mean officers now are legally prohibited to have their cams on when they are within 8 feet of an another officer talking to someone? (I’m sure they’d love that)

Sounds like all kinds of crazy.

TheDumberHalf says:

I'm semi conflicted

Part of me thinks people should give cops room to work. Who want cameras in your face when you’re working, right? Add Danger and Firearms into the mix and it can get scary and uncomfortable doing your job.

The other part of me thinks this will get abused in many unintended ways. I Haven’t read the law, but there should be a lot of exemptions here. Time within proximity, parties’ activities, Environmental constraints.

DBA Phillip Cross says:

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WTF?

there should be a lot of exemptions here. Time within proximity, parties’ activities, Environmental constraints.

And, there goes the entire purpose of the first amendment protecting the right to photograph public servants and cops.

No one can point to a case of cops actually being unable to do their jobs because, camera’s–no such cases exist.

And for the nearly mythical “rogue good cops” out there who do their jobs every day, there is no need to be concerned about cameras either–because they are not personality disordered bad cops chosen by bad police departments, and bad jurisdctions BECAUSE they are personality disordered criminals.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

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I thought you were an expat, meaning that the 1st Amendment shouldn’t matter to you

Inane gibberish from an inane troll. Neither is mutually exclusive, and I have stakes in many places, though not through your troll-vampire heart yet. Maybe others can help me flag you to troll death? Anyone?

Meanwhile, your garbage arguments are all transparent derailing:
— Ad Hominem. An ad hominem fallacy uses personal attacks rather than logic. …
— Straw Man. …
— Appeal to Ignorance. …
— False Dilemma/False Dichotomy. …
— Slippery Slope. …
— Circular Argument. …
— Hasty Generalization. …
— Red Herring. …
— Appeal to Hypocrisy. …
— Causal Fallacy. …

So, yeah–you are what any rational person will see you to be here–a coward, and a troll.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Meanwhile, your garbage arguments are all transparent derailing:
— Ad Hominem. An ad hominem fallacy uses personal attacks rather than logic. …
— Straw Man. …
— Appeal to Ignorance. …
— False Dilemma/False Dichotomy. …
— Slippery Slope. …
— Circular Argument. …
— Hasty Generalization. …
— Red Herring. …
— Appeal to Hypocrisy. …
— Causal Fallacy. …

So, yeah–you are what any rational person will see you to be here–a coward, and a troll.

That’s right. All anyone has to do to see the above fallacies is Google “DBA Phillip Cross”, proving that the rest of what you said is also true of you.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Wel, yeah– you:

If this law were at all about preventing interference, there would have been no mention at all about recording.

Please–for all of the specators– clarify that word salad? But these ne-line quips are beneath examination–you have stated basically NOTHING, so, there’s that.

Let’s try again, shall we?

If this law had any meaning whatsoever, recording the actions of police would have been declared a public right, regardless of circumstances, and in the public’s interests.

THAT is actual democracy, you police union fob. After that, you lost me at “police union watch fob, DBA Toom-something -or-other.”

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Please–for all of the specators– clarify that word salad? But these ne-line quips are beneath examination–you have stated basically NOTHING, so, there’s that.

Nobody really thinks this law is about preventing interference, even though that’s the pretext given as justification. It’s about stopping recordings.

If being within 8 feet of a police officer causes interference, then it doesn’t matter whether any recording is occurring, no law specific to cameras is needed, and the existing interference law applies. Similarly, if I can stand 4 feet away empty-handed and not be interfering, I can also be 4 feet away with a camera and not be interfering, and then the existing interference law applies.

Or to put it more simply, this law creates the crime of “possession of a camera with intent to film”

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:9

I wish it were that simple–but this AC specifically targets my posts with every classic troll ploy, and ZERO input of any substance ever.

I wish you could just IP ban it–this troll targets and attacks my posts over years of posting–and it is specifically one troll here, with others at its beck and call. The IP logs will demonstrate that.

So, letting its type win these battles of censorship-by-proxy is a loss for democracy–and as I pointed out to Catress, this thing is destroying western dialectics, by design of its deployment.

I am willing to tone it down, but seriously–it needs to be flagged as hard as Thing1 and Thing2 and their accessory trolls are hitting my posts too. They contribute ONLY derailment and conflict.

I at least try to follow the rules of discourse, and attempt to contribute knowledge–they don’t like the knowledge I attempt to contribute–all they contribute is the GIFT of endless derailment, aka The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory shows them for what THEY are , here.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:10

You never faced off against a CCP-aligned asshole before

I am pretty sure I am doing that here, right now. With Thing1 and Thing2.

On the surface, USA defending jingoism, the usual troll playbook–but on the other, the net effect is exactly as you stated-shitting up the thread.

In fairness–all intel OPs do the exact same thing. So, for example:

ADL-hasbara feigns British right wing stance on left wing board, just to create arg’s with well known left wing posters who have no idea they are being webterrogated, and don’t know enough to plant bullshit into their statements so as to dirty up the dossier.

And all of THAT so that they can then sell that dossier to Russians, Saudi’s, etc.

Iran always gives itself away with their student union b.s. though–still haven’t fixed their Croatian IP problem, etc.

But they ALL follow the exact playbook–these two AC’s are good cop bad cop, fedposters, not CCP at all.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

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Yes, I am saying that. Cops turn every exemption into an exception for their own bad behavior–US cops are sociopaths, and trained to be even more-so via Israelification and militarization.

No one can point to a case of cops actually being unable to do their jobs because, camera’s–no such cases exist

As for whatever reason cops would cite as the need for exemptions, laws are already on the books that cover those things–breach of peace, assault, interference laws are everywhere protecting cops.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

I assure you this can ALL be solved if
a) we give women the right to abortion, whereby,
b) they don’t fucking use it, whereby,
c) th state can then entrqqp men into a two-tiered society of quasi slavery, aka the “child support system,” whereby
d) women who had abortion rights, but instead opted for “easy state money, via welfare and workfare” “got ahead” of the boys, whereby
e) Roe v. Wade was overturned once such fraud was exposed, whereby,
f)here we fucking are–boys who “should have put a bag on ity” and STILL no decent male birth control options v. stupid girls who opted for state money, Catholics for the WINNNNNNNN!!!!!

Meanwhile, all of those disenfranchised fathers out there, recording cops are all the bad guys who should look elsewhwere for the win, which they will NEVER get under such a structure.

ARIZONA-and-Soon-To-Be-USA, because of that.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Imitation, the sincerest form of flattery indeed!

Or, to put it in your words

Let me return the honor!

— Ad Hominem. An ad hominem fallacy uses personal attacks rather than logic. …
— Straw Man. …
— Appeal to Ignorance. …
— False Dilemma/False Dichotomy. …
— Slippery Slope. …
— Circular Argument. …
— Hasty Generalization. …
— Red Herring. …
— Appeal to Hypocrisy. …
— Causal Fallacy. …

H/t

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:

[Citation Needed]

And: “lying and derailing” for the loss–rational people now see you for what you are, an internet stalker, harasser, and troll.

Quit looking there!…nothing from your .mil/JTRIG/NGO/hasbara/ADL/trollfarm unspecified manual will have any evidence of your claims as usual, so pick up a real book onceinawhile.

Stalker, liar, and troll is not a good look.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:3

I welcome that, actually.

“DBA Phillip Cross” is an excellent search term, dontchathink? That other guy from your troll farm is the real deal: an actual ADL-hasbara/establishment/British-Israel-JTRIG rat.

And, eager searchers might also find this list of spergpersonator confessions interesting too. Note that I am not on the list.

So, you and your pal’s Alana Boltwood, and all of these other GIFT’s with PIU disordered minds are clearly the same Dark-sider trollfarm.

The only question is, whose payroll are you on? As there is no unified fascist party that I am aware of, I can only assume you work for the New Word Order and its desire to pwnz the entire internet.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

“DBA Phillip Cross” is an excellent search term, dontchathink? That other guy from my troll farm, ROGS (the one I’m a sockpuppet of), is also the real deal: an actual ADL-hasbara/establishment/British-Israel-JTRIG rat.

FTFY. YW. BTW, what is your obsession with people pretending to be autistic? Is it because that’s something you tried and failed at in the past, making you jealous of people who’ve never tried to be anything other than what they are?

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:5

people pretending to be autistic

That’s what military/NGO/ADL-hasbara trolls do–it’s classic PSYOP and part of the training in any military influence campaign. Trollfarms routinely deploy fake mental illness claims to win the internet

See below for evidence of that. And, it always starts when the lead AC comes behind my posts with typical ADL-hasbara type slander and defamation.

For the record? The OG Phillip Cross also claimed Asperger’s as he stalked and harassed anti-war protesters and dissidents online too–and no MI issue gives anyone the right to harass others online, or off.

But oh, look! The original AC has mustered the entire troll army here now, how predictable. How typical JTRIG.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

I believe Cattress was expressing annoyance with both you and the AC, not defending the AC. Specifically here:

Could you and your little anonymous buddy go spam up some other website? You are both irritating.

(emphasis added) And I’m inclined to agree. This is whole back-and-forth between you two is basically just mudslinging that adds nothing of value to the discussion.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Thanks for that welcome criticism, and I apologize for the spamminess that is caused by TD refusing to IP ban that AC. But that is the AC’s stated goal–classic trolling by each and every metric, zero substantive input.

It all started because the AC trollfarm was calling me a commie–despite the fact that arch-neocons in the west are recognizing their failure as a society, and even Tony Blair is signalling the collapse of western civilization BECAUSE of these types of trolls being too stupid to do anything but troll, and cause division.

Unfortunately–and I ask you to watch closely in the near future–watch as I post, and then, this noxious AC troll follows behind everything I write, smearing me in classic troll fashion. This particular troll is distinctly hasbara, but it enlists others from other trollfarms too.

I ask your help in flagging it off the forum, because TD mods have so far refused to IP ban it. And this AC is an admitted troll mind you.

So, I write, it stalks and slanders. But it always starts it first.

Me staying silent–and frankly, you asking me to remain silent–is eerily similar to asking other victims of abuse to remain silent, or keep their problems to themselves, or maybe take a look at what you did to deserve it, and so on. I have gone through this since the anti-sex worker/war on peace protesters/war on “terror” etc. days of the early aughts, and it has only amplified into now–it’s a problem that does not go away, and will not go away until active measures are taken against these types of actual trollfarms.

This is the essence of the free speech in the west debate: how these AC/.mil/JTRIG/ADL-hasbara/NGO-agency fake-spergers deliberately toxify speech online, and then cause various forms of censorship-by-proxy.That’s my ENTIRE argument, and I apologize that you have to read through this troll armies garbage.

It’s how they silenced #BDS, it’s how they silenced the fact that Israel is arming and training Ukraine Nazi’s, and why the Pentagon’s bioweapons labs story was buried too– and it’s why Roe was overturned–these neocon troll farms divide and conquer exactly this way. This is it, in action.

So–yeah,, maybe flag it away like the cockroach that it is, but I will always re-spawn. I actually stand for something, it/they do not. They are the cancer at the internet switch, and the gag on the first amendment too.

Again–sorry, but even arch-globalist and GWBush ally Tony Blair echoes my own sentiments ( I never thought I would side with Blair on anything)–but these AC trolls are deliberately hacking democracy because of their cray cray political divisiveness–no common ground can be had or found when these AC’s and their Two Cents Worth armies show up anywhere.

DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Confused now \O/ are you Thing 1 or Thing 2? Regardless, both of you are Fedposter wannabe’s or something damn close–IT fanboyz infected by Infragard logical fallacies, a cesspool of

– ∞ < x < ∞

I mean–aggressive online trolls seem to have won the day here, haven’t they?

I have tried many times to simply discourse, ply, cajole, encourage, or otherwise squeeze some humanity out of you, to no avail–wall of AC’s always gets in the way, because your AC handler of course–the AC with the hatred of Palestinians, and any mention of Israelification, #BDS, or its own racism. To whit, blaming Jews for its trolling:

Failing that do try to be slightly more creative than “the Jews did it.”

I have clearly and consistently implicated the Abrahamic Trifecta of toxic New Word Order types without fail, and their censorship-by-proxy–whoever “they” may be on that day–rabid racists, Zionists, various christian NGO’s and cults who have infiltrated Silicon Valley–Ukrainian Nazi’s ferchristssake!–all useful idiots for the most part.

But all are united in censorship by proxy.

So, your fearless Troller-In-Chief, a regular guest here on the Techdirt Show (a racist, tribal, ADL-hasbarat, nonetheless) wants an exception for its own hatred and racism–go figure. Freemasonry FTW! Or not, don’t hurt your brain–it will endlessly end this way:

– ∞ < x < ∞

And this

TD so secular!!!

DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Funny, all my reports say that you died by infanticide in your mothers basement, seconds after Tony Blair announced that his weird hat reeked of Freemason scumbags, and abortions that should have been had–I think he mentioned YOU by name–regardless of which you were sadly evasive, and for some reason only known by SATAN are still here.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Mods? Please check the impersonation of my nym in that other reply to Catress?

Cattress–I apologize for this

And now here’s super Cattress jumping to it’s spergpersonator AC buddies defense. Good luck together!

I didn’t write it–its an insider/impersonator from TD’s un-flaggable mob-squad. My actual reply to you is caught somewhere in mod-land, and replaced with that somehow. Be patient.

DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Please understand that they are impersonating me and using my nym right now–look above, check the logs.

I didn’t post that–do you see now? This is how JTRIG-spergpersonators-B’Nai B’rith wins. Mods simply do not know they are doing this.

But you, here, now, have a chance to reveal it.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re: ‘Alana’s Involuntary Celibacy Project’ and the internet incel troll PSYOP

Ah, projecting facts not in evidence! And, just projecting–you are exhibiting PIU, maybe get that checked out.

SO, perhaps that whole consent thingy in the US-FVEY’s is problematic due to its contractual nature–women as state or church property–last I checked you need to sign, like a six-hundred-and-sixty-six page contract to get to third base or s/th.

Which is why I opted out of such a demented, religion-infused monstrosity of a culture. Non-Jewish-christian cultures don’t have these problems. Consent is implied by the raw meaning of the term, personal contracts are honored, and none of that women as herd animals, and objects of state and church manipulation.

You people are a mes. All sexually repressed devils. Malcolm X got the name right.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Stupid troll be stupid troll.

— Ad Hominem. 
— Straw Man. ...
— Appeal to Ignorance. ...
— False Dilemma/False Dichotomy. ...
— Slippery Slope. ...
— Circular Argument. ...
— Hasty Generalization. ...
— Red Herring. ...
— Appeal to Hypocrisy. ...
— Causal Fallacy. ...

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

But I won’t publish your photographs in flagrante delicto with said dog, ok?

A: Bestiality’s your thing, as you’ve already projected.
B: There are no images of my sexual activity online because;
C: Neither I nor my partners have ever produced any.

But you go ahead and publish whatever it is you think you’ve got because if it is sexual, it won’t be me at the prosecutor’s table in court.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:4

it won’t be me at the prosecutor’s table in court.

Obviously–you have less than the skills of the average troll, much less acumen with the law.

Oh noooes! internet AC troll gonna be suin’ folks!LOL. I would love to see THAT lawsuit, published here, highlighting your trolling, stalking, bullying, and other harassment.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Obviously–you have less than the skills of the average troll, much less acumen with the law.

Every accusation a confession. If you hack someone’s computer or device to get images to distribute online, that’s a violation of the CFAA, a Federal offense, not a civil matter.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:8

Thanks, Amber! (FTW!)

— Ad Hominem.
— Straw Man. …
— Appeal to Ignorance. …
— False Dilemma/False Dichotomy. …
— Slippery Slope. …
— Circular Argument. …
— Hasty Generalization. …
— Red Herring. …
— Appeal to Hypocrisy. …
— Causal Fallacy. …

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re:

Honey is a diminutive–why do you seek power here? Oh, right:

Control language, you control the masses

and this

you would first have to find a women willing to have sex with you

Is that the scope and depth of your concern–my (f@cking INCREDIBLE!!!) sex life, outside of the US-FVEY’s theocracies?

Seriously–get a life.

Oh, never mind, AI bots cannot have life as we know it, sorry if that hurts your AI BOT feelz!

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re:

No, actually–where I live, “getting laid” is easy–cheaper than a meal for two, and quicker than a conversation with–hold on….one, two, three, four…..an army of AC commenters (who are all the same FVEY-Israeli hasbara trollfarm) and you.

I am literally surrounded by beautiful, available women (and a few guise) as I write this. So–exactly why does my (incredible) sex life concern you-all, anyways, you putz–ah, that’s the answer your impotence brought on by the clip, clip.? And the founder of the Incel Movement, Alana Boltwood, and her Canadian Mental Health-Bronfman Crime Family-Big Pharma cabal, of course.

‘Merican’s and their Velvet Mafia, and neocon Pal’s in the FVEY’s so perverted, strangling all-the-boys-sex-drives there. Meanwhile literally ANYWHERE ELSE in the world, sex is goo-ud!

Russia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Lithuania, China, Cuba–literally ANYWHERE but in the “freedum luvin’ FVEY’s and its satellites, sex is celebrated as a natural, wonderful thing–a part of living. Not so true in your nations of constant war and death.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Is that you, Sister Mary of the Sacred Hole’s? gee if only…if only…

All you’ve got to do is fix your attitude and the way you treat others

Me, on my knees now, praying for an egg, OE, and some Jimmy Dean Pure Pork Sauasages to go with this Virgin Mary toast.

Oh, never mind–look where all the sausages went!?

(AC checks its bunghole.)

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:6

Well, at least an asshole-focused asshole like you has asshole etiquette. That will go a long way towards your later asshole-focused asshole health record as the Asshole Monitor n Chief, via Asshole Readings, Asshole Tracking, and A-rated on the Asshole scale of assholes.

Wow. I bet assholes ENVY you, and your glorious work! You win the prize! The prize?

ASSHOLE

WheeeeHeew. Sane people DO NOT WANT THAT!

Bu you….

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:6

EXACTLY, FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a look at the darling of the incel “movement.” The “creaator” of the incel “movement,” right???!

Oooops! Creating the incel “movement,” “by accident,”and then, later, targeting young boys with PSYOP online, and then, sitting on the board of Mental Health Canada, was purely a coincidence–Alana Boltwood of Mental Health Canada, and her Bronfman syndicate pals are so non-nefarious!!!LOL.

Yeah, I know, right? Mirrors! MKULTRA!!PSYOP!!!!!!!

Run for your life from these exact devils–theses devils are real indeed.

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DBA Phillip Cross says:

Re: Re: Re:4

OK, PUA, lay it out for me–I am sure your glorious history of conquests will be like

“then, I clicked the link….she unfolded herself begfore my eyes like a magazine centerfold…and one look was all it took and….”

[Power Outage]

Malaysia/Indonesia/Phillipine’s electric so unreliable!@#*^&%?!!!

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'Clearly' not

In the more recent incident involving Freddie Gray, the video camera is clearly 8 to 10 feet away from Mr. Gray and might even be farther away because the photographer could have been using the phone’s zoom setting.

That’s a range of two feet followed by musing that it might be even farther away, and when a foot can be the difference between violating the law and not using an example like that if anything just shows how easy the law will be to abuse and break.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Absurd law. If you have a right to be on a certain spot, you should have the right to use a camera to record what you see on that spot. So police in Arizona is going to back up people recording with cameras 8 feets away from a police scene while leaving the no-camera people within 8 feets alone? What are the police hiding?

DNY says:

Zoom

No. not the teleconferencing program. A feature on almost all cell-phone cameras.

Fine, you can’t stand within 8 feet of a cop and record him. I’m sure zooming in by a factor of say 1.2 from 9 feet away will get enough detail to either convict or exonerate the cop(s) in question.

Heck, zooming in by a larger factor from 25 feet out will probably work, too.

Not that these laws should not be overturned as violations of the First Amendment. Just a reminder in the meantime.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re:

One that considers the feelings and employability of police to have vastly more importance than the health or lives of anyone else.

Some random person gets beat by a cop? Meh, probably had it coming since The Police Are Never Wrong.

Cop faces public pressure, potentially even the dreaded legal consequences for beating said random person? Horror of horrors, what madness is this that would foist consequences on police officers?!

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