Pirate Parties Blocked From WIPO After US & Other Countries Complained That They Don't Support WIPO's Mission

from the but-of-course dept

A little over a year ago, the Pirate Parties International (a group representing various different local Pirate Parties) asked for permission to have “observer” status at WIPO, the UN-based World Intellectual Property Organization, an operation somewhat renowned for its generally maximalist agenda. Last year, we noted that, after complaints from Swiss, French and US delegations to WIPO, the PPI request was delayed for an entire year. Well, that year is up… and WIPO has officially rejected the request while it approved all other requests except for the Pirates and Kenya Innovation Council.

Once again, US officials were among the folks trying to block PPI from becoming an observer, expressing concerns that the Pirate Parties “don’t support the objectives” of WIPO. So who did get approved? Well, among others, there was the International Society for the Development of Intellectual Property (ADALPI). So it’s not like WIPO rejected organizations that came into things with a clearly biased perspective. It just wanted to reject organizations whose position WIPO officials don’t like. Ridiculously, as Jamie Love points out, the US State Department first talked about being able to discuss things “free from undue interference or censorship” and then went out and blocked the Pirate Parties from being able to join WIPO as observers. Hypocritical as always. And, if you’re wondering, other political parties have been allowed into other UN organizations in the past, so it’s not just because the Pirates are a political party.

Once again, we see that WIPO is not actually focused on determining the most effective intellectual property regime, but rather they’ll push for protectionism and maximalism because a few countries benefit strongly from such positions. And they’ll even go so far as to lock out organizations that have other viewpoints.

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out_of_the_blue says:

Huh. Call yourselves pirates, decent people shun you.

‘expressing concerns that the Pirate Parties “don’t support the objectives” of WIPO.’ Is that in controversy?

“rather they’ll push for protectionism and maximalism” — Umm, you can’t debate with people who don’t agree that there IS any valid intellectual property. That’s just axiomatic.

Disclaimer: almost anything with “World” in it I’m against, so just don’t assume that because I support rational copyright that I go for this globalist crap.

S. T. Stone says:

Re: Huh. Call yourselves pirates, decent people shun you.

you can’t debate with people who don’t agree that there IS any valid intellectual property

Yes, you can. You can debate over the merits of intellectual property law in a civilized and reasonable manner with someone who doesn?t believe IP law should exist. It only takes having an ounce of respect for the other party and opening your mind to an opposing viewpoint instead of writing them off as dirty filthy pirates who don?t deserve due process, civil rights, or even the remotest form of human tolerance.

CK20XX (profile) says:

Re: Huh. Call yourselves pirates, decent people shun you.

There’s actually an entire trope about the phenomenon at work here.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppropriatedAppellation

Christian, Mormon, Jew, Yankee, Pixelante, The Big Bang, Impressionism, Vigilante Taxonomist, Obamacare, and now Pirate are but a few examples of insulting names that have come to be worn with pride.

JMT says:

Re: Huh. Call yourselves pirates, decent people shun you.

“Umm, you can’t debate with people who don’t agree that there IS any valid intellectual property.”

They didn’t ask to come along and debate, they asked to observe. If you’re a such a strong supporter of copyright, why would you be afraid of having people who disagree with your position simply listen to you?

Ninja (profile) says:

Re: Huh. Call yourselves pirates, decent people shun you.

Well, there’s no evidence that IP needs to exist for things to move forward. It’s just some idiocy invented in the last century or two to protect established businesses.

If they can allow the International Society for the Development of Intellectual Property (ADALPI) who are clearly biased towards the IP extremism then why not allow the polar opposite?

As for the name, it’s clearly established internationally that the Pirate Parties are a force to reckon. Only petty trolls like you or people that don’t like them still make fun of the name. Pirate has become a symbol for freedom of speech.

Anonymous Coward says:

This is pot speaking, we are generally known to be associated with the color black.

We don’t know what this errr, group’s color is that wants to join us. It’s sort of the same color as night, sort of associated with being left in a fire, sort of associated with being the opposite of white, but it ain’t like us. We don’t want to be contaminated with it.

Anonymous Coward says:

Maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t the best idea to adopt the name “Pirate Party” when you’re hoping to participate in meetings that, in part, are focused on stopping piracy. Seriously, could these party leaders be any dumber?

It’s like the idiots that chose the name GIMP for their open source program, and then complain that no legitimate businesses want to use a program named after a slur for disabled people.

I swear, techno-fetishist’s are their own worst enemy.

John Fenderson (profile) says:

Re: Re:

then complain that no legitimate businesses want to use a program named after a slur for disabled people.

How do you know that’s what is was named after? The insulting term for disabled people is only one of the things “gimp” means. It could have been a reference to people who enjoy sex while wearing full-body latex suits, not disabled people.

Or it could just mean “GNU Image Manipulation Program”. But why go with that when it’s so much more fun to imagine that some insult was intended?

CK20XX (profile) says:

Maybe it would be worth trying a Skies of Arcadia approach? In that game, there are two factions of pirates: the Black Pirates who steal and plunder from anyone they darn well please, and the Blue Rogues, who only target the ships of the wealthy, corrupt empires, frequently battle with the Black Pirates, and are more interested in seeking challenges than getting ahead by any means. You gotta admit, the Blue Rogue Party does sound more palatable.

James Love (profile) says:

Re: Can't read German

The process at WIPO is one where countries can block applications for whatever reasons they like. Some time ago, the USA blocked CPTech (our name before KEI) from becoming an observer in WIPO advisory committee on enforcement, but changed its position at later meetings. Today WIPO is generally a very easy place to gain accreditation, compared to other UN bodies, such as the World Health Organization. In the case of the Pirate Parties International, the opposition was clearly based upon the views and values of the Pirate Parties. This was the second time the Pirates sought permanent accreditation at the WIPO General Assembly. I will suggest they make a new attempt to gain “ad hoc observer status” in one of the committees, to move things along. I don’t think Belgium, the US or Poland were that comfortable defending their actions, after the vote. The Pirates need to talk to the US and the EU before the vote, to make sure there are not further opportunities to block them over lack of information about such issues as the precedent for UN accreditation of political parties (Lots of socialist and liberal party groups have various UN accreditations now), of the relationship between the PPI and Pirate Bay.

Out_Of_Naboo says:

Problem with PPI

The problem PPI has is a lack of legitimacy. They’ve admitted they might have a bank account somewhere, but haven’t been able to access it for 3 years. They have a conference and apparantly don’t follow their own rules at it, rigging votes or excluding those they know won’t keep the ‘status quo’ (such as kicked out the Dutch pirate party based on a single email some random party member sent)

In their annual reports last year, half the board said ‘the other half are a problem, and here’s the facts to prove it’. The problem half were, however, running the voting, and ‘mysteriously’ got re-elected.

PPI, it’s a farce.

Anonymous Coward says:

The goal of WIPO, much like most of the international trade organizations made in the last of years, is to exert US dominance over foreign markets by infiltrating them with laws that the US can exploit. Much like how the US exported faulty standards, they export faulty legislation that specifically favors their companies and business. Nothing benefits more from ridiculous IP laws than the businesses that are based primarily in the United States. They want the draconian systems to become a global databank of ridiculous laws and procedures criminalizing anyone who doesn’t have the lawyers to fight it or understand it.

So of course they’re going to try to push out opposition, these aren’t people willing to debate the folds in their pockets.

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