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   pdfs

   

   Boo, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 3:32am

   
   

   Why oh why do people publish stuff online with pdf when html will do? I'm all in favour of protecting material and controling print layout in government doc's and annual reports, or even download versions of printed materials... but it's starting to go a bit mad recently!

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   Re: pdfs

   

   Donald, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 5:14am

   
   

   I must admit, I don't like opening pdf's online either. Take a look at this link on adobe's site. They will convert a pdf to html for free and allow you to view it online.
   Adobe PDF to HTML Converter
   
   Here is the converted document from the story above:
   Will Fair Use Survive
   Interesting article...

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   Chris H, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 5:51am

   
   

   C'mon guys how can you not like Adobe, the peice of software who's true purpose is to open documents and consume (currently) 116MB of space on my hard drive?

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   thirst4knowledge, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 6:12am

   
   

   PDF isn't owned by Adobe. If you want you can use many other free viewers on linux and windows. Most of them use ghostscript as a backend.
   But, I agree, if you are making a case for "open" and "fair" usability PDF is not the way to go.

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   Mousky, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 6:26am

   
   

   Wrong. PDF was invented by Adobe. Next you are going to tell us the PostScript is not owned by Adobe.

   Portable Document Format at Wikipedia

   Adobe PDF

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   Re: No Subject Given

   

   Tom, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 6:27am

   
   

   116MB? That's your complaint? Acrobat uses 116MB?
   
   Please! You waste more than then on temp files when browsing a single web site. That amount is a round off error on today's hundred-of-gigabyte hard disks.
   
   If 116MB of space on your hard drive is going to be an impact on you, spend $40 and increase your drive space by about 100 times.
   

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   Re: pdfs

   

   Ceconix, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 6:57am

   
   

   See, that's why I use Firefox. There are nifty little features that you can add in. There is this one called PDF Download that lets you decide when you click on the PDF link if it should open as a PDF, save it, or convert it to HTML.
   
   

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   Re: PDF Download

   

   giafly, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 7:43am

   
   

   NB: PDFDownload does the conversion on a server. Nothing sinister, but this is a potential security risk and it might not work with high security Websites.

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   Re: pdfs

   

   Tiresias, Dec 6th, 2005 @ 7:53am

   
   

   This document is great AND I am glad they made it available as a PDF. It looks and reads well.
   Give me a PDF of long files optimized for printing over a crappy HTML page any day. It is better for sharing than a directory of HTML pages, when done well as accessible as HTML (when it is done well), and has great features.
   File size complaints are rather lame in an era when people download 6Mb music files and 700 MB AVIs... helper applications? May as well start bitching about Windows Media Player, Flash, Real, and all the others that use their own formats as well.
   Who cares who "owned" a standard. Abobe has made the format an open standard that can be programmed around by anyone without paying a dime to Adobe... which is why it is built into OSX and used by dozens of other applications.
   So maybe we can please spare the diatribe against PDF and get onto talking about the importance of the CONTENT...
   

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    Re: pdfs

    

    duane, May 19th, 2006 @ 6:53am

    
    

    I don't care so much that Adobe Reader takes up space on my harddrive. What I do have a problem with is when it takes up so much memory that my computer slows down to a crawl and then half the time it crashes on me. Otherwise, for offline viewing I actually like pdfs.

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