Too Much Free Time

Too Much Free Time

by Mike Masnick




Play Along At Home: Where Is This Newspaper Website From?

from the the-web-is-global,-remember dept

Earlier this year we wrote about newspapers that put up websites that don't indicate the location they're based in. Thanks to various news search engines, it's increasingly common that you may end up on the website of a "local" newspaper that is anything but local to you -- but where you have no clue what "local" is. Even worse, they often include generic descriptions of places ("the valley," "the river," "the north side") which mean absolutely nothing to you. E-Media Tidbits is griping about another such site where even the webcam shot of "downtown" showing the local weather is perfectly ambiguous. So, we'll let everyone play along at home: just how many clicks does it take you to figure out what's "local" for The Truth Online.

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    Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 2:51pm
  • No Subject Given

    by pimmetje

    1 click

    Elkhart Office
    P.O. Box 487
    Elkhart, IN 46515-0487

    Goshen Office
    622 W. Lincoln Ave.
    Goshen, IN 46526

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 2:54pm
  • Number of Clicks

    by Matt H.

    Just one. If you click on the Contact Newsroom link at the bottom of the homepage you will find that they are located in Indiana (Elkhart & Goshen)

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 2:54pm
  • No Subject Given

    by Anonymous Coward

    all of half a second:
    http://www.nappanee.org/
    So it looks like an area of IN including these three areas

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:08pm
  • easy

    by Eddie

    Based on the lead story, the paper must be from the area of Nappanee. The community section would lead you to believe that local is Elkhart county.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:18pm
  • Elkhart, IN

    by Andy

    One click by following the "forecast" link.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:36pm
  • Place - Less web

    Click on the sports page , usually local sports gives away the location of the news site ~~ R.A.H.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:43pm
  • No Subject Given

    by Happy user

    Why should anyone NEED TO click at all? I believe the point that Mike was trying to make here, was that NEWS websites should present all five of the "W's" when posting NEWS stories.

    who, what, when, why and _WHERE_

    Without KNOWING all five of those "W's", the news is quite useless.

    Thanks Mike, I was wondering when someone would say something about this -- its a problem that I find all too often on the internet. A long news story may take me a few minutes to read through, and without all of the [W's] information, I feel as though I had just wasted my time.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:45pm
  • er...only one

    by the truth is out there

    scroll down...click on contact us: newsroom
    scroll down: postal address Elkhart, Illinois.

    Na na na na naaaaaaa

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:46pm
  • No Clicks On a Guess but one clcik to verify

    by Wes

    I say an article on Elkart and thought it might be Elkart, Indiana. After scrolling to the bottom and clicking the Newspaper Delivery button I discovered I was right. All it takes is a little scanning and thought. But it would be nice to have something on the front page saying what community it served.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 3:48pm
  • the truth is out there

    by Anonymous Coward

    oops.... I meant Indiana

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 4:20pm
  • no clicks

    by kinga

    Zero Clicks

    "And for Nappanee Fire Chief Tom Anglin"

    Nappanee; final answer.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 5:36pm
  • How Many Clicks?

    Well, I have to admit that "The Truth" is an example of poor web identification and moderate user friendliness.

    It only took me 3 clicks to find Elkhart Indiana, I found it after looking for the "about" and then finding the "delivery" information link. They might get more subscribers if their readers could find out how to get the news delivered. Go figure!


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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 6:44pm
  • Where is this newspaper from

    Indiana

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 7:06pm
  • No Subject Given

    by Bryon

    Another thing that's really annoying is online magazine articles that are written without the date. You do a google on a certain subject, find an article, but you have no idea as to it's relevence because there is no date! Argh!!

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 7:52pm
  • One Click -- Copyright

    by Andy

    One simple click on the "Copyright" link at the bottom of the page.

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 9:19pm
  • bothers me too...

    by justin

    1 click
    Weather
    Elkhart, IN

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 9:31pm
  • How many clicks till I knew it was from Elkart Ind

    by Daaltje

    The question was How many clicks till I knew it was from Elkart Indiana? ZERO.

    Haha, it was on the front page said Indiana and Elkart County. I clicked on Hometown Game story just to be sure and saw the header ELKART-

    You guys maybe just cant see the trees for the forest.

    LOL.. there are plenty of trees here in Washington.

    ps I have had to use an old mostly spammed email. It is not safe email is it? (hidden addy) So I had to use protection. :)

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 9:38pm
  • No Subject Given

    by Robert C Ward

    Two licks brought me to the following:Send mail to:
    Elkhart Office
    P.O. Box 487
    Elkhart, IN 46515-0487

    Goshen Office
    622 W. Lincoln Ave.
    Goshen, IN 46526

    Was this a trick question?

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 10:45pm
  • 13th Line of HTML

    by Tabooyah

    META NAME="description" CONTENT="The leading information source in Elkhart county providing news, sports, entertaiment and local information."

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  • Nov 2nd, 2005 @ 11:40pm
  • Where is this url?

    by Pat

    1 click - elckhart - Indiana

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 1:00am
  • How many clicks?

    by Mark

    Click "subscribe", if the word "Elkhary" doesn't give it away, then Google the phone number.

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 5:25am
  • No Subject Given

    by Anonymous Coward

    One click, "Contact" links are always great :)

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 6:25am
  • etruth.com

    by Chris

    Its Elkhart, Indiana if no one has said yet

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 7:00am
  • just 1 click

    by ahoy

    Under "contact" --- however maybe I am disqualified since I do this sort of thing every day with these local online papers as a journalist.

    Send mail to:

    Elkhart Office

    P.O. Box 487

    Elkhart, IN 46515-0487

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 7:00am
  • No Subject Given

    by Anonymous Coward

    Elkhart Office

    P.O. Box 487

    Elkhart, IN 46515-0487

    Goshen Office

    622 W. Lincoln Ave.

    Goshen, IN 46526

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 7:10am
  • um...

    by B

    I didn't have to click at all...

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 7:55am
  • No Subject Given

    by Leo Zelevinsky

    1 click - weather forecast :) - as I expected it gave the area it was giving the forecast for.

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 8:31am
  • No Subject Given

    by Chris H

    I just want to be redundant like everyone else and post saying that I found out where the newspaper is from.

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 10:44am
  • No Subject Given

    by Me

    1 by forcast
    2 by job search
    2 by house for sale

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    • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 12:04pm
    • Point

      by Mthorn

      You guys are missing the point. It should have taken 0 clicks. Elkhart county means nothing to me because I don't live in Indiana. The header of the page should say "eTruth, Elkhart, Indiana". You shouldn't have to scan the whole article to determine relevancy.

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      • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 12:19pm
      • Re: Point

        by treo

        Well, as true as it is, why would you be on such a small news site, and not on one that you know is local to you... I know off hand of 4 or more local news sites for me, chances are you know the sites that are local to you

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    Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 1:53pm
  • 1 click

    by walrus37

    1 click -- to the support/newspaper delivery page. Elkhart/Goshen Indiana.

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 1:55pm
  • agreed

    by doubledoh

    Alot of people are missing the point. If you go to http://www.latimes.com the city and state of the paper (despite it's fame) is in the title of the page...that's how it should be for ALL newspapers with online versions. I shouldn't have to try to deduce the locale by reading stories or clicking links...it should be obvious with a glance. Even The rather huge Mercury News (http://www.mercurynews.com) which covers "Bay Area" news forgets that someone else in the world that doesn't know or live near "the bay area" might not have any idea what bay they are talking about. The idea that professional journalists are so vague and non-specific kind of makes me wonder how professional they are after all.

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  • Nov 3rd, 2005 @ 9:31pm
  • one click

    Just clicked om weather link and saw current conditions in elkhart, indiana.

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