I believe/predict the NYSE will stop the act of raising your hand and yelling. This will devistate the auction business. You won't be able to buy a beer or hotdog at the ballpark. Rock concerts will become a thing of the past. Political speeches will never be the same. The taxi companies will be left in ruins. Depressing; I know.
I see what you are saying, and I believe you are right. I just have a hard time believing you can be a fan, but knowingly not support what you are a fan of. I'm trying to apply the CwF+RtB to this example.
I guess that my mistake is actually assuming that every fan must pay to support. So, you can still be a fan by not monetarily supporting, but maybe promoting? Maybe there are different types/categories of fans, and you need to know how to connect with each of them to get them to perform their duties. Be it a promotion fan, a paying fan, or other class of fan that has a purpose. Am I close?
"Look, you're fans of our games, let us give you the legitimate version of the game,"
I have a problem with calling people who are downloading torrents of atari games fans. The game is available in many formats for "fans" to purchase. I would think the correct way to term these people is potential fans.
In my opinion, terming them correctly will allow you to better serve your customer.
I am a fan of Zakk Wylde's (Black Label Society) music, so I buy it. Someone who downloads the torrent is a potential fan, or not a fan at all.
The military protects democracy through land, sea, and air. The next plausible threat is cyber. It only makes since to set up a command to defend this area. If you lock the front door, the back door, and the kitchen windows, but leave the bedroom windows open, guess where the attack comes from. I can't speak for how serious the threat is, or will be in the future, but better to be prepared. I will not disagree about contractors using fear to scoop profits.
To me, it seems obvious that Pomplamoose created video covers to attract attention. Once they achieved that, you were introduced to their own original works.
This is no different from an up and coming band playing covers, mixed with their original works, to attract a certain fan base. You, as the fan, associate with the cover, and then will most likely pay closer attention to the bands original works. Am I missing something?
I applaud torrenting your own game for publicity. You get your game out there how you want it to look, so you kinda control your product. Maybe I am nieve, but why would someone "crack" the game if it was already out there? Even minus the leaderboard feature. It seems like it would be too much of a pain for a little bit of bragging rights. Once you get hooked on the game and want to be on the leaderboard, you go buy it. If you don't like it, you aren't out the money, and you aren't pissed at the game company for trapping you into a crappy game. This has nothing but win written all over it.
Although I see simularity to shareware from back in the day, I would classify this different.
Dark Helmet, you are killing me! Still laughing about your "recieving" comment.
William, It isn't like opening your XBOX360 and only adding hardware that makes it a better system. These people are adding hardware which requires hacked (COPYRIGHTED) code to operate. This is defined as cheating the system. Not to be confused with legally making the system better. When did it become acceptable to do something illegal to better a product?
To MOD the XBOX 360 you will have to rework copyrighted code (That in itself is a no-no).
I have to agree that 99.99% of people MOD consoles to cheat and play copied games. Modern Warfare 2 has been deemed the biggest media release to date. So, why not catch the modded systems with a game that almost everyone will own? It isn't like MS hid the fact that they will ban you from LIVE if you MOD your system. I actually enjoy the humor in the thought of all the cheaters, excited to play MW2, put in the disc to finally play, and get banned!
The MS conspiracy theory is laughable (banning modded consoles to sell new ones). I am a LIVE customer, and don't want cheaters playing on servers with me. Thanks MS for banning these cheating scums.
People who MOD their systems should be thankful that they are only losing LIVE privelidges for that console. In my opinion, they should also lose their LIVE account, and be accountable for the reworked copyrighted code.
I noticed a tactic some networks are using. They end their show 1 minute later (for example House on Fox). How does this affect anything? Lets say you record house at 9pm then want to record two shows at 10pm. Well now you have THREE shows at 10pm (since house records till 10:01) and the DVR will not record one of the 10pm shows. Slick - huh?
Anonymous Coward: So, what gets you to buy CDsdigital downloads? What promotional tool (PT) guides you to buy, or to become a fan. Do I have to pay for this PT? Should the PT owner pay the labels even though they are getting me to buy? If I had a business and somebody was sending me customers, I wouldn't find myself trying to take money from them and cripple their ability to bring me more customers/money. What I would be doing is kicking myself for not thinking of the idea first. That's because I was sitting on my arse and riding out the "sure thing".
After I stopped laughing, I realized how serious he is being. At least he is being honest with the public. What I get from this statement is, if you are willing to subsidies our failed business model, then welcome aboard. He states "Even when it is obvious a service provides added value in promotion and sales..." That is just scarry.
Maybe I am getting too old, but in my opinion, the music isn't getting better. So how can the price of music, especially in the top 100, go up? As people's wallets are geting tighter in the current economy, how can music go up? Maybe I am wrong to bring that up since supply/demand doesn't apply. I would go as far to say the songs that are $1.29 are willing to try to make more money, than spread and promote their music. Am I too old(36)?
Could you imagine if only one software company could produce a Texas Hold 'Em app? Or only one company could produce a baseball video game? That would be silly.
What if only one company could produce a football video game? Oh yeah, Electronic Arts solely releases the same crappy football video game every year!
Video games prosper with competition, and I believe it is good. 2K Sports gave Madden a run for their money, if not eclipsing them one year. Now, after the NFL Player's INC exclusive rights were sold to EA, we are left with one crappy game.
You could easily say that 2K Sports copied Madden to get where they were and to be a competetor. So to have Mafia Wars take a model that Mob Wars had a chance to act on doesn't really bother me.
Yes, there are bundles of highly questionable mortgages, but contrary to what the media tells you, plenty of the people who possess those mortgages are still paying -- and even if they're not, the property and houses they represent still do have some value on the market -- or will someday.
I will ask a question and try not to sound like a prick, because that is not my intention. Mike, you state that plenty of those people are paying, but then immediately state "even if they're not." Do you have any facts to prove the media wrong? I am a home owner, and see a lot more home auctions than ever before.
New Style
I guess that gives a new meaning to "consoled."
Stealing
@RichBTIG We will sue, and stealing our signal will be found to be illegal in Boston, just as it will be everywhere else.
There is that word "stealing" again. You know if you use the word that actually belongs in its place, well it...doesn't sound illegal anymore.
Waste of Time
This is a total waste of time for both sides. CBS' consumer base, senior citizens, don't have computers or internet.
BS-defense-stick
If you check the manual for the "BS-defense-stick," you will see that there are better options than just drawing a line.
What the NYSE Will Stop Next
I believe/predict the NYSE will stop the act of raising your hand and yelling. This will devistate the auction business. You won't be able to buy a beer or hotdog at the ballpark. Rock concerts will become a thing of the past. Political speeches will never be the same. The taxi companies will be left in ruins. Depressing; I know.
Re: Re: Fans?
I see what you are saying, and I believe you are right. I just have a hard time believing you can be a fan, but knowingly not support what you are a fan of. I'm trying to apply the CwF+RtB to this example.
I guess that my mistake is actually assuming that every fan must pay to support. So, you can still be a fan by not monetarily supporting, but maybe promoting? Maybe there are different types/categories of fans, and you need to know how to connect with each of them to get them to perform their duties. Be it a promotion fan, a paying fan, or other class of fan that has a purpose. Am I close?
Fans?
"Look, you're fans of our games, let us give you the legitimate version of the game,"
I have a problem with calling people who are downloading torrents of atari games fans. The game is available in many formats for "fans" to purchase. I would think the correct way to term these people is potential fans.
In my opinion, terming them correctly will allow you to better serve your customer.
I am a fan of Zakk Wylde's (Black Label Society) music, so I buy it. Someone who downloads the torrent is a potential fan, or not a fan at all.
Adds in Porn?
Adds in porn? Really? Reminds me of a story from earlier this week. Did you see the gorilla?
The Skinny IMHO
The military protects democracy through land, sea, and air. The next plausible threat is cyber. It only makes since to set up a command to defend this area. If you lock the front door, the back door, and the kitchen windows, but leave the bedroom windows open, guess where the attack comes from. I can't speak for how serious the threat is, or will be in the future, but better to be prepared. I will not disagree about contractors using fear to scoop profits.
The Way I See it
To me, it seems obvious that Pomplamoose created video covers to attract attention. Once they achieved that, you were introduced to their own original works.
This is no different from an up and coming band playing covers, mixed with their original works, to attract a certain fan base. You, as the fan, associate with the cover, and then will most likely pay closer attention to the bands original works. Am I missing something?
Reply to Dest
Dest, You forgot your tags!
Smart Move
I applaud torrenting your own game for publicity. You get your game out there how you want it to look, so you kinda control your product. Maybe I am nieve, but why would someone "crack" the game if it was already out there? Even minus the leaderboard feature. It seems like it would be too much of a pain for a little bit of bragging rights. Once you get hooked on the game and want to be on the leaderboard, you go buy it. If you don't like it, you aren't out the money, and you aren't pissed at the game company for trapping you into a crappy game. This has nothing but win written all over it.
Although I see simularity to shareware from back in the day, I would classify this different.
Dark Helmet, you are killing me! Still laughing about your "recieving" comment.
Reply to William
William, It isn't like opening your XBOX360 and only adding hardware that makes it a better system. These people are adding hardware which requires hacked (COPYRIGHTED) code to operate. This is defined as cheating the system. Not to be confused with legally making the system better. When did it become acceptable to do something illegal to better a product?
I Don't Blame MS
To MOD the XBOX 360 you will have to rework copyrighted code (That in itself is a no-no).
I have to agree that 99.99% of people MOD consoles to cheat and play copied games. Modern Warfare 2 has been deemed the biggest media release to date. So, why not catch the modded systems with a game that almost everyone will own? It isn't like MS hid the fact that they will ban you from LIVE if you MOD your system. I actually enjoy the humor in the thought of all the cheaters, excited to play MW2, put in the disc to finally play, and get banned!
The MS conspiracy theory is laughable (banning modded consoles to sell new ones). I am a LIVE customer, and don't want cheaters playing on servers with me. Thanks MS for banning these cheating scums.
People who MOD their systems should be thankful that they are only losing LIVE privelidges for that console. In my opinion, they should also lose their LIVE account, and be accountable for the reworked copyrighted code.
Tactics
I noticed a tactic some networks are using. They end their show 1 minute later (for example House on Fox). How does this affect anything? Lets say you record house at 9pm then want to record two shows at 10pm. Well now you have THREE shows at 10pm (since house records till 10:01) and the DVR will not record one of the 10pm shows. Slick - huh?
Seriously
Anonymous Coward: So, what gets you to buy CDsdigital downloads? What promotional tool (PT) guides you to buy, or to become a fan. Do I have to pay for this PT? Should the PT owner pay the labels even though they are getting me to buy? If I had a business and somebody was sending me customers, I wouldn't find myself trying to take money from them and cripple their ability to bring me more customers/money. What I would be doing is kicking myself for not thinking of the idea first. That's because I was sitting on my arse and riding out the "sure thing".
Honesty
After I stopped laughing, I realized how serious he is being. At least he is being honest with the public. What I get from this statement is, if you are willing to subsidies our failed business model, then welcome aboard. He states "Even when it is obvious a service provides added value in promotion and sales..." That is just scarry.
Higher = Better?
Maybe I am getting too old, but in my opinion, the music isn't getting better. So how can the price of music, especially in the top 100, go up? As people's wallets are geting tighter in the current economy, how can music go up? Maybe I am wrong to bring that up since supply/demand doesn't apply. I would go as far to say the songs that are $1.29 are willing to try to make more money, than spread and promote their music. Am I too old(36)?
That Would be Silly
Could you imagine if only one software company could produce a Texas Hold 'Em app? Or only one company could produce a baseball video game? That would be silly.
What if only one company could produce a football video game? Oh yeah, Electronic Arts solely releases the same crappy football video game every year!
Video games prosper with competition, and I believe it is good. 2K Sports gave Madden a run for their money, if not eclipsing them one year. Now, after the NFL Player's INC exclusive rights were sold to EA, we are left with one crappy game.
You could easily say that 2K Sports copied Madden to get where they were and to be a competetor. So to have Mafia Wars take a model that Mob Wars had a chance to act on doesn't really bother me.Facts?
I will ask a question and try not to sound like a prick, because that is not my intention. Mike, you state that plenty of those people are paying, but then immediately state "even if they're not." Do you have any facts to prove the media wrong? I am a home owner, and see a lot more home auctions than ever before.