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  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:33am

    Re: Re: MIKE : In fact, we're arguing that they should do something: which is come up with a better grasp on their own business model

    explain in your Pirate Logic:

    Why?

    please.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:29am

    Even if the majority will is that the law is wrong, does not automatically mean the law not worth defending.

    EXACTLY !!

    And I repeat ,

    The U.S. Constitution's main principle is to PROTECT the Minority from Majority Tyranny.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:25am

    I disagree with the notion that all laws should be based on majority will.

    That is a very interesting point.

    It s also the core debate of Political Theory. PhDs, explore this topic and have explored this topic since people began to write. , and they will continue to explore it.

    We will not solve it here.

    But please remember ,
    The U.S. Constitution's main principle is to PROTECT the Minority from Majority Tyranny.

    We all learned that in 6th grade social studies.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:17am

    Not everyone falls into the categories of deals you mention. In fact, such arrangements are becoming less monolithic with all the online distribution models.

    I know I am going to regret this : but please explain.

    But only if you CONNOT accept CopyRight Law is a moral right , universally accepted as such ,, by all law , gov't , congressman , and Judges.

    If you do not cede that ,,

    any response will simply be Pirate Logic.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:11am

    Blurg. This is exhausting.

    Fighting for truth and justice and morals

    against Pirates

    Is never Easy.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 05:03am

    Apologies, I'm a musician, so I'm coming from a musicians' perspective. You have to do that to be signed to a major label, and if you're not on one, then good luck trying not to be exploited.

    "Apologies, I'm a musician, so I'm coming from a musicians' perspective. You have to do that to be signed to a major label, and if you're not on one, then good luck trying not to be exploited."


    I offer Apologies too ,, on behalf of all working intelligent middle class musicians and songwriters who live and pay their bills , and live life fairly , through the $$ from their CopyRight Royalties,,

    I offer Apologies for Karl , claiming to be an Artist.

    Just because you can plug you axe into your amp , and maybe make a bar chord ,, or maybe play the riff from "Smoke on the Water" ,,,

    does not mean your a musician !!!!!

    I can teach a monkey to plug in his amp.

    REAL Musicians , whether , Jazz , classical , folk , or Tibetan Throat Singing ( look it up )

    Are hard working , somewhat obsessed with their ART,,

    and as Mingus says ( paraphrase) ,,

    "The ART is my children."
    ----

    No Pirate will every mess with my children Karl.

    Please do not pretend or claim to be a musician.

    You are just a Pirate Monkey with an amp.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 04:48am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:You might as well be trying to argue that water is not wet.

    Right On !!

    slay those Pirates!!

    good posting there Memyself !

    Thanks for coming in !!

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 04:37am

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  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 03:48am

    Re: Oh, I agree that piracy is illegal by law, not so sure about immoral.

    Or Stifles your Biz model --

    Mike !!

    that too is Pirate Logic.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 03:44am

    Oh, I agree that piracy is illegal by law, not so sure about immoral.

    Oh, I agree that piracy is illegal by law,+++ not so sure about immoral. ++++

    Well get sure !!!

    Because the laws are universally accepted , by all gov'ts and legislative bodies.

    Just as Murder and Theft is illegal everywhere there is law and not anarchy,

    So too Piracy is illegal everywhere ,, AND always will be.

    Disscusion after that;;; to say copyright infringment is just , or cool.. or taking what should be free anyway ,, OR just plain "ok by me , who really cares about this sh$t " ,, OR "it is fine for kids to do at home"----


    all those arguments , that would fail any "serious academic test" , from kindergarten thru a post-PhD seminar ----


    is Pirate Logic.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 02:48am

    but as you yourself just said, artists rarely get rich by royalties. Now who's fault is that?

    You have mis-read this fundamental point.

    Art is a tough biz.

    Most Artist ,, are poor. Most musicians are poor.

    gigs in bars don't pay well.

    You got to write or perform a hit song to make $$.

    you got 4 million (or so ) guitar players .. they cannot all be famous.

    that is what i mean by , artists rarely get rich by royalties.

    "Now who's fault is that? " no ones fault. Just a fact of life.

    not everyone is Derek Jeter. not everyone is a Beatle.

    Copyright laws protect this middle class songwriters and musicians.

    the folks who are talented enough to be pro,, but just not lucky enough to really strike it big.

    COPY RIGHT PROTECT their livelihood most of all.

    Is it really that hard to understand all this ?

    It is basic common sense.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 02:35am

    "Piracy" is fundamentally about poor people accessing the same content as rich people.

    "Piracy" is fundamentally about poor people accessing the same content as rich people. "

    So is bank robbery, you idiot.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 02:33am

    : When will they learn? Instead of trying to fine and jail pirates they should turn us into paying customers (or advertising targets).?

    if your are claiming my dyslexia , is the root reason for my morals on copyright ,,

    when that is the worst Pirate Logic yet.

    Shows you ilk and mettle .

    Pirates are schmucks.

    And should be prosecuted when they break the law.

    One little Pirate Geek with a keyboard ,
    the gov't can't really stop you from using Pirate Bay,
    or your other little daily infringements.

    That is part of the "pirate cool" ,, we are breaking the law !!

    I know , that was the cool factor of smoking pot. it was against the law to smoke pot .

    BUT One day soon pot will be legal. ( see Cailf. in November elections),, how can a plant be illegal ? More and more people are now seeking that drug laws do not work. treatment for addicts, and permission for users , is the better way.

    BUT ,, SUPER big "BUT" ,,,

    ,,,Piracy will NEVER BE LEGAL.

    Never ever. It is too ingrained in Moral , Natural , and LEGAL LAW , that Piracy is WRONG.

    Live with it Mike and you pro-pirate posters !!!!

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 03 Jun, 2010 @ 02:19am

    When he was nine years old, ..... Please don't talk about it. That would be uncouth.

    EXACTLY .

    These last few comments in this sub-thread , it where you pro-pirates show your ilk and mettle .

    I is beyond even Pirate Logic , and moves into surreal bad taste.

    You pro-pirates are completely handcuffed ,, by the moral augments for fight piracy-- if you even understand them -- which i do think is passes right through your shallow minds.

    You Pirates and your "cronies want-a-be"- Pirates;

    Pirates cannot accept the fact , that not one member of the USA Congress OR ANY sitting federal Judge is even close to be for weaker copyright enforcement.

    But yet every Day ,, Mike wakes up to start his Quixotic Quest
    to destroy copy.

    MIKE : ( paraphrase mix) This law is bad ,, it stops Circumvention !! This law favors copyright holders !!! This law hurts my biz , and my friends biz. My economic needs to do biz , trump you moral right to copyright enforcement.

    ME:

    WRONG MIKE ! Your economic need is nothing against my Right to hold and defend copyrights, That is the whole point of the Copyright Clause of the Constitution. that is why the Law goes against Pirates , and the laws are getting stronger everyday

    But you will never get it ,, Mike ,, and all you Pirate-Logic-posters.

    you were too busy giggling stoned in high school social studies when normal people learned these principles.

    and if you really do get it ,, and still preach you pro-piracy rhetoric ,, well , your are truly evil and dangerous to moral society

    There is nothing cool about being a Pirate.

    Gandi was cool. Dr. King was cool, Bobby Kennedy was the coolest. They are the roles models of normal moral people,

    Not some actor in a Pirate uniform.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 10:27pm

    that this quixotic fight against The Pirate Bay

    it is a moral fight,, mike , on principles ,

    Principles that freed slaves,, granted suffrage to women ,

    and fight for justice all over the world.

    you world view on copyright and royality is extemist , bizzare ,, and immoral.

    the Law protects Artist from infringers and circumventers.

    If you do not like it.

    Use democracy to change it.

    But Mike you know you can't.

    You mike are the one chasing windmills
    in your "quixotic fight" to weaken Copy Right and Patent Law

    and

    FOR allowing and /or ignoring
    Piracy and circumvention.
    ===================================

    The Job of Artists is to chase windmills.

    The Job of government is to protect them from you Mike.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 10:15pm

    Re: Re: I recognize that most of the people who participate in this blog may have a different opinion, but I don't think they're a large percentage of the voting public.

    Just pointless Pirate Logic, again Karl .

    Why write it ?

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 10:12pm

    Just because the law benefits you doesn't make it a good law.

    "Just because the law benefits you doesn't make it a good law."

    It is more than law . It is a moral right too. that way anti-piracy in universal in the law civilized nations.

    If you do not see the moral side,, that is why we have law.

    To protect the majority who see copyright as an essentional to the functioning of soiciety .

    ---
    Example :

    Caucus Senator, Sheldon Whitehouse said,

    "International piracy of American intellectual property weakens a segment of our economy that long has supported innovation and great American jobs."


    more by Sheldon Whitehouse - May 20, 2010 - Inquirer (3 occurrences)

    http://news.google.com/news/quote?pz=1&cf=q&ned=us&hl=en&qsid=GpElr6Z8FzeO9M

    http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_3_0_a&usg=AFQjCNFoQY9LPmZ6-LGMuKOADGVe0ludkg&cid=0&ei=4DgHTJi_Es3xlAfDzN3VAw&rt=MORE_COVERAGE&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theinquirer.net%2Finquirer%2Fnews%2F1649668%2Fus-congress-lists-worst-p2p-offenders

    search and read more :

    http://news.google.com/news/more?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BH3&rlz=1R1GPMD_en___US361&resnum=0&q=%22orrin+hatch%22+and+%22pirate+bay%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=d9UOf89N58mVLrMlAA36erja98i1M&ei=bzgHTPHWA4S0lQfjoeHcDw&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&cd=1&resnum=1&ved=0CCEQqgIoADAA


    The world is united against PIRACY.

    WHY ?

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 10:01pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:People don't care they just copy and will continue to copy

    "++People don't care ++they just copy and will continue to copy"

    the law cares . the majority of People care too. your are in a bad crowd , if the only people you know are Pirates.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 09:59pm

    And completely unaffective. Exhibit A: Reality.

    "And completely unaffective. Exhibit A: Reality."


    ans : no it is very EFFECTive.

    you just do not like the AFFECT.

    copyright Laws work well,

    Many middle class musicians , writer , poets , and painters,
    eat and live because copyright is in the Law of the USA and the World.

    you just scoff at the reality,, so you can get something for nothing.

    Pirate.

  • On the post: Four Years In, How Successful Has Hollywood's Attack On The Pirate Bay Been?

    Technopolitical ( profile ), 02 Jun, 2010 @ 09:55pm

    Art is free !?!? Re: MIKE :" Then you haven't been paying much attention. There is tremendous amounts of proof that monopolies limit markets in bad ways.

    that is Pirate Logic !!

    Art is never free !

    artists are crafts-people , like any other
    honest worker.

    Art is life.

    the pinnacle of human emotional
    achievement ,

    art move society in ways $$ can't.

    the answer is blowing in the wind.

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