You purposely ignored the last part of my comment. You are arguing from a food neutral point of view. Turkey supporters are turkey supporters, not pie supporters, hence they believe that turkey is necessary to make you full.
Oh hai average_joe, long time reader, first time commenter. Since we're talking about logic here let's get a few things straight.
One, something that is not sufficient to achieve a goal may or may not be required to achieve said goal. For example, a quarter is not sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Two, something that is more than sufficient to achieve a goal is more that what is required to achieve said goal. For example, a five dollar bill is more than sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Three, something that is sufficient to achieve a goal is the bare minimum that is required to achieve said goal. For example, one dollar is sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Therefore, anyone who argues that copyright is sufficient, is also arguing that it is the bare minimum required, which means they think it is necessary. The fact that there are other ways to protect the industry is irrelevant because supporters of copyright are supporters of copyright, not those other solutions.
They made a game that allows me to pretend to kill pop stars and it's supposed to show me why downloading music is wrong? So does that mean they are suggesting that illegally downloading her music is going to kill Amy Winehouse? I've never downloaded one of her songs before, but now I really want to.
For all the "I'm not a programmer but how hard could it be..." comments out there the answer is "always harder than someone who knows nothing about programming would think."
Sorry, not trying to be a jerk but it's hard to feel bad for someone who didn't get as much free money as they thought they should. I thought Techdirt was against money for nothing business models?
perhaps people will just stop playing their games. that there is a hack and all clearly indicated people desire the games. too bad they dont desire to actually pay for them.
Too bad the people that had the desire to play the games and DID pay for them still can't play them.
I used to think UBI was one of the best game companies in the world, and considered working for them at one time. But now I know they obviously just don't get it, and never will, so I just won't bother buying or playing another one of their products. There are more than enough game companies that don't treat me like a criminal out of the gate that deserve my money far more than UBI.
In Canada (at least when I was in school) as long as you showed your work, and your logic was correct, you would get close to full marks even if your answer was wrong. If you showed no work, you got zero, even if your answer was right. Too bad that lesson was lost on the MPAA and the US gov't.
Karl is absolutely right, it's The Escapist's fault for having a flawed business model. So some users are using AdBlock to remove annoying ads and The Escapist's revenue decreases. What would happen if AdBlock didn't exist? Those users wouldn't have the option to remove annoying ads and so they would just stop visiting the site, and The Escapist's revenue would decrease.
Bob Slydel: "What you do at Initech is, you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers." Smykowski: "Yes. Y--Yes. That's-- That's right." Bob Porter: "Well, then I just have to ask, why couldn't the customers just take them directly to the-- to the software people, huh?" Smykowski: "Well, I'll tell you why. Uh, because... engineers are not good at dealing with customers." Bob Slydel: "Uh-huh. So, you physically take the specs from the customer?" Smykowski: "Well... no. M-My secretary does that, or they're faxed." Bob Slydel: "Uh-huh." Bob Porter: "So then you must physically bring them to the software people." Smykowski: "Well... no. I mean, sometimes." Bob Slydel: "What-- What would you say you do here?" Smykowski: "Well, look, I already told you. I deal with the bleepdamn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!"
I can't wait until Ubisoft diversifies into the automobile market and requires an always on internet connection to be able to drive your car. If at any time you lose connectivity, your vehicle automatically shuts down. But don't worry, the online system saves your state, so as soon as your network connection is re-established your vehicle will resume traveling in the same direction and at the same speed.
Techdirt has not posted any stories submitted by Mayor Milobar.
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You forgot the part where Apple gives you a new copy of the MP3 anyway...
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You purposely ignored the last part of my comment. You are arguing from a food neutral point of view. Turkey supporters are turkey supporters, not pie supporters, hence they believe that turkey is necessary to make you full.
Thanky.
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Oh hai average_joe, long time reader, first time commenter. Since we're talking about logic here let's get a few things straight.
One, something that is not sufficient to achieve a goal may or may not be required to achieve said goal. For example, a quarter is not sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Two, something that is more than sufficient to achieve a goal is more that what is required to achieve said goal. For example, a five dollar bill is more than sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Three, something that is sufficient to achieve a goal is the bare minimum that is required to achieve said goal. For example, one dollar is sufficient to purchase an item worth one dollar.
Therefore, anyone who argues that copyright is sufficient, is also arguing that it is the bare minimum required, which means they think it is necessary. The fact that there are other ways to protect the industry is irrelevant because supporters of copyright are supporters of copyright, not those other solutions.
Thanks, and have a lovely weekend.
Off the top of my head...
I'd say this website puts Americans at risk and should be immediately blocked:
http://www.riaa.com/
I'm sure I can find a few others...
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I believe this should be the new way ALL IP conflicts are resolved.
So let me get this straight...
They made a game that allows me to pretend to kill pop stars and it's supposed to show me why downloading music is wrong? So does that mean they are suggesting that illegally downloading her music is going to kill Amy Winehouse? I've never downloaded one of her songs before, but now I really want to.
For all the "I'm not a programmer but how hard could it be..." comments out there the answer is "always harder than someone who knows nothing about programming would think."
Sorry, not trying to be a jerk but it's hard to feel bad for someone who didn't get as much free money as they thought they should. I thought Techdirt was against money for nothing business models?
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Just watched that episode yesterday.
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Except that he spends the entire article debunking the claims made in the filing, hence Rick Carnes IS wrong. In my opinion, you are an idiot.
Too bad the people that had the desire to play the games and DID pay for them still can't play them.
I used to think UBI was one of the best game companies in the world, and considered working for them at one time. But now I know they obviously just don't get it, and never will, so I just won't bother buying or playing another one of their products. There are more than enough game companies that don't treat me like a criminal out of the gate that deserve my money far more than UBI.
In Canada (at least when I was in school) as long as you showed your work, and your logic was correct, you would get close to full marks even if your answer was wrong. If you showed no work, you got zero, even if your answer was right. Too bad that lesson was lost on the MPAA and the US gov't.
Karl is absolutely right, it's The Escapist's fault for having a flawed business model. So some users are using AdBlock to remove annoying ads and The Escapist's revenue decreases. What would happen if AdBlock didn't exist? Those users wouldn't have the option to remove annoying ads and so they would just stop visiting the site, and The Escapist's revenue would decrease.
Reminds me of Office Space
Bob Slydel: "What you do at Initech is, you take the specifications from the customers and you bring them down to the software engineers."
Smykowski: "Yes. Y--Yes. That's-- That's right."
Bob Porter: "Well, then I just have to ask, why couldn't the customers just take them directly to the-- to the software people, huh?"
Smykowski: "Well, I'll tell you why. Uh, because... engineers are not good at dealing with customers."
Bob Slydel: "Uh-huh. So, you physically take the specs from the customer?"
Smykowski: "Well... no. M-My secretary does that, or they're faxed."
Bob Slydel: "Uh-huh."
Bob Porter: "So then you must physically bring them to the software people."
Smykowski: "Well... no. I mean, sometimes."
Bob Slydel: "What-- What would you say you do here?"
Smykowski: "Well, look, I already told you. I deal with the bleepdamn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!"
How much you wanna bet...
How much you wanna bet someone's yearly bonus depends on regional distribution numbers?
correlation does not imply causation
copyright violation trolls/techdirt
Ubi-Dealership coming next year
I can't wait until Ubisoft diversifies into the automobile market and requires an always on internet connection to be able to drive your car. If at any time you lose connectivity, your vehicle automatically shuts down. But don't worry, the online system saves your state, so as soon as your network connection is re-established your vehicle will resume traveling in the same direction and at the same speed.