on this: "is not grounded in the facts, and the distortions in this debate cannot be allowed to trump sound policy"
Since when did factual background and sound policies became requirements for the USTR and USCC policy making? (don't answer, it was a rhetorical question)
It would be ironic if - after proceeding despite all the protests and objections from civil organizations - TPP were defeated by bureaucratic bs from government side.
The difference is while patent judges (maybe) were able to decide if a mechanical invention was new, non-obvious and I don't remember the third, this will go out of the window with software, as most judges are so computer illiterate, they can't use google to search for prior art.
Also, abstract ideas (algorithms) shouldn't be patentable, and individual implementations are differ so much as to be pointless to patent them.
Conclusion: either we'll get shitty overbroad abstract non-intelligible troll patents OR we get so narrow that there will be no point in patenting them.
It IS silly. Yes, it's unlimited, free, even fraudulent (just for seasoning) money, but ultimately a very small drop in the corporation's income statement.
It definitely looks like pettiness, but I can only imagine that at Warner they think (rightly I hope) if they lose, they might create a dangerous precedent.
Just like Disney holding onto their stupid PRECIOUSSSSS mouse.
So yes, this is what is really at stake, and I can only hope that they fail miserably.
Did you read my whole reply, or just the quoted parts? Did you understood what I wrote? If yes, then you're willfully misrepresent my opinion.
I started with Officially you can't(?) sell your GoG games either
you've technically been selling pirated material, and you're the reason companies implement DRM to begin with
If you honestly believe that piracy is the main reason behind DRM, then you're hopelessly näive.
As for the second part, the "..."-d part contains an "and" which should - at least somewhat - separate the two parts of the sentence. Maybe an additional "," were due, my bad.
I do like the fact that GoG charges everyone in dollars, but that can introduce bank charges
My purchase of The Witcher 3 were paid in €. They explicitly state that. https://www.gog.com/support/website_help/payments_pricing_promos 1. point.
not boycott one retailer forever I never said I boycotted steam (although I boycott Origin and anything EA related), because it wouldn't be true. Steam has some great sales and very good features (ad-hoc streaming being one of them), but nothing compares to the feeling when you download a game and can run it without any more hassle, without activating, being online or just running a pesky steam or galaxy.
Also, they included an EULA-like stuff in TW3 which I actually read through, because it were written in human readable language!
GoG lets you sell your games now? If not, why is this a dealbreaker for Steam but not for GoG?
Officially you can't(?) sell your GoG games either. The difference is GoG doesn't prevent you from giving the copy to anyone and receiving money for it with DRM, like steam does.
Why would you want to do that when that's not the exchange rate? In one direction, you're asking to take a loss, in the other you're asking the retailer to lose money on the transaction.
I think you misunderstood me. Steam, at the moment, exchange $->€ in 1:1 instead of their true exchange value. A 60$ game becomes 60€ game in Europe (the $->Ł conversion is even more ridiculous). How is this even remotely fair?
Re: The next terrorist attack...
I smell encrypted 9/11 in the morning..
Laughing hysterically
on this:
"is not grounded in the facts, and the distortions in this debate cannot be allowed to trump sound policy"
Since when did factual background and sound policies became requirements for the USTR and USCC policy making?
(don't answer, it was a rhetorical question)
Re:
Java is an island. Also a coffee. It doesn't sucks.
Re:
Ironically they see no problem when it comes to interfering in other countries sovereignty...
It would be ironic if - after proceeding despite all the protests and objections from civil organizations - TPP were defeated by bureaucratic bs from government side.
Re: NZ have no software industry anyway
The difference is while patent judges (maybe) were able to decide if a mechanical invention was new, non-obvious and I don't remember the third, this will go out of the window with software, as most judges are so computer illiterate, they can't use google to search for prior art.
Also, abstract ideas (algorithms) shouldn't be patentable, and individual implementations are differ so much as to be pointless to patent them.
Conclusion: either we'll get shitty overbroad abstract non-intelligible troll patents OR we get so narrow that there will be no point in patenting them.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Or did you miss the lack of a sarc mark on David's comment?
This kind of bullshit is why you have "Not chewing gum" labels on C4 and "Do not masturbate with it" on chainsaws.
Play dumb for the argument's sake if you like it, but then don't expect us to treat you as a smart guy.
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It IS silly. Yes, it's unlimited, free, even fraudulent (just for seasoning) money, but ultimately a very small drop in the corporation's income statement.
Re: Re: Re:
Irony is not a country of Irons.
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the petty part is Warner here
It definitely looks like pettiness, but I can only imagine that at Warner they think (rightly I hope) if they lose, they might create a dangerous precedent.
Just like Disney holding onto their stupid PRECIOUSSSSS mouse.
So yes, this is what is really at stake, and I can only hope that they fail miserably.
Re: Re: The boy who cried 'Stinger Missile'
The same tactic has been used by every superpower and not-so-superpower nation worldwide (US, china, ussr, iran, israel. you name it).
Copyright takedown?
Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't looks to me like a copyright takedown request, least of all DMCA complaint.
Re: Re:
Nope, he's still after the first key.
As good as confirmation
As we've been told: "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear"
Re: No wonder TPP talks are secret
I'd say "NO" to any agreement concluded in secret, no matter what it contains, on the principle that it were done undemocratically.
Pure and simple.
Because politicians can explain and promise all they want, there is no good reason for a trade agreement to be done in secret. None.
Re: Re: Re: PC game Demos
IDK, most games I torrented were like this:
1. download - virus scan
2. install - use key in the appended .nfo file if needed
3. copy contents of "crack" dir in game dir.
4. play
Also, if you play a game so much that you need patches etc, then buy it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Too little
Did you read my whole reply, or just the quoted parts? Did you understood what I wrote? If yes, then you're willfully misrepresent my opinion.
I started with Officially you can't(?) sell your GoG games either
you've technically been selling pirated material, and you're the reason companies implement DRM to begin with
If you honestly believe that piracy is the main reason behind DRM, then you're hopelessly näive.
As for the second part, the "..."-d part contains an "and" which should - at least somewhat - separate the two parts of the sentence. Maybe an additional "," were due, my bad.
I do like the fact that GoG charges everyone in dollars, but that can introduce bank charges
My purchase of The Witcher 3 were paid in €. They explicitly state that. https://www.gog.com/support/website_help/payments_pricing_promos
1. point.
not boycott one retailer forever
I never said I boycotted steam (although I boycott Origin and anything EA related), because it wouldn't be true. Steam has some great sales and very good features (ad-hoc streaming being one of them), but nothing compares to the feeling when you download a game and can run it without any more hassle, without activating, being online or just running a pesky steam or galaxy.
Also, they included an EULA-like stuff in TW3 which I actually read through, because it were written in human readable language!
Re: PC game Demos
We already have a great system for trial purposes - tpb
Re: Re: Too little
GoG lets you sell your games now? If not, why is this a dealbreaker for Steam but not for GoG?
Officially you can't(?) sell your GoG games either. The difference is GoG doesn't prevent you from giving the copy to anyone and receiving money for it with DRM, like steam does.
Why would you want to do that when that's not the exchange rate? In one direction, you're asking to take a loss, in the other you're asking the retailer to lose money on the transaction.
I think you misunderstood me.
Steam, at the moment, exchange $->€ in 1:1 instead of their true exchange value. A 60$ game becomes 60€ game in Europe (the $->Ł conversion is even more ridiculous).
How is this even remotely fair?
Too little
Paint me apathetic, but as long as steam doesn't let me sell my games and exchange $ to € in 1:1 ratio, I'll have as little to do with them as I can.
GoG is the way. It's just most fucktard developers haven't realized this yet.