"as a reminder, nothing about those mod tools access were changing. The claims it was was part of a whole pile of BS claims, that those mods staked their position on, and now literally can’t back down on because their egos won’t let them."
This does seem plausible. I'm way too ignorant to comment on this in technical detail, but I do know of at least three other moral panics that had dubious foundations (all pertaining to Blizzard, because that's what I've been following).
The Nostalrius incident - if you ever hear that name, you will learn that Blizzard "shut it down", while the truth is that they never did, and Nostalrius did it out of their own volition.
The Reforged incident - there is a myth that Blizzard changed the EULA to own all user maps, while that part had been there since 2002.
The Blitzchung incident - a slightly less objective case, yet it nevertheless amounted to a political and anti-Chinese statement, yet people were outraged nonetheless for its removal and punishment.
With this track record (let alone real-world examples such as QAnon or BLM), it would be safe tentatively to say that the moderators are throwing a temper tantrum, so near and dear to many Westerners, up to the destruction of their very own [online] communities. Now what I could have learned by a quick Google search, I have to bother folks on Discord with. Web 3.0 is a failure.
"One of the major issues is that a lot of moderators use phones"
So far, I have not seen any disruptions to the moderation of communities. What I have seen is a drama of immense proportions and harm to the users - stirred up by those moderators. If moderating ever became an issue, I'm sure Reddit would think of something - I doubt they would be content with, I dunno, ISIS propaganda spam in r/awww.
I know full well that it's part and parcel of the Western Christian culture to support these moral panics and mass movements (see the Blitzchung incident, Epstein, QAnon, BLM, etc.), especially the penchant for fighting against muh' "big evil corporations", but the cold harsh truth is that the users destroy their very own communities out of a sense of moral superiority.
I'm surprised the Reddit administration has allowed this to happen. They either planned this outrage (conspiracy, I know), or they are indeed so toothless as to be unable to reopen their own website (and I'm sure they would have no issue taking up millions of janitors as a replacement for the defective, revolutionary ones).
I for one have been trying to learn Japanese (yes, being a Ukrainian), and as Reddit effectively amounts to the entirety of the Internet at this point (the useful parts, at least), this tempter-tantrum/collapse has been an utter disaster. It's effectively an Internet outage. All I can do is use Google Cache after googling.
And all for what? For some "API" changes? I.e., for the sake of those forsaken phone users? How the mighty have fallen. First, they absorb every single forum in cyberspace. Then, they shut it down - after uglifying and dumbing down what remains of it, of course. And people cheer on! Utter chaos.
This has prompted me to join a Discord group, and that's a disaster, because they don't even read books, and my dumb questions look better as private google queries instead of bothering honest people.
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- The Nostalrius incident - if you ever hear that name, you will learn that Blizzard "shut it down", while the truth is that they never did, and Nostalrius did it out of their own volition.
- The Reforged incident - there is a myth that Blizzard changed the EULA to own all user maps, while that part had been there since 2002.
- The Blitzchung incident - a slightly less objective case, yet it nevertheless amounted to a political and anti-Chinese statement, yet people were outraged nonetheless for its removal and punishment.
With this track record (let alone real-world examples such as QAnon or BLM), it would be safe tentatively to say that the moderators are throwing a temper tantrum, so near and dear to many Westerners, up to the destruction of their very own [online] communities. Now what I could have learned by a quick Google search, I have to bother folks on Discord with. Web 3.0 is a failure.Moral panic revolution hurts everyone
Reddit is the Internet
I for one have been trying to learn Japanese (yes, being a Ukrainian), and as Reddit effectively amounts to the entirety of the Internet at this point (the useful parts, at least), this tempter-tantrum/collapse has been an utter disaster. It's effectively an Internet outage. All I can do is use Google Cache after googling. And all for what? For some "API" changes? I.e., for the sake of those forsaken phone users? How the mighty have fallen. First, they absorb every single forum in cyberspace. Then, they shut it down - after uglifying and dumbing down what remains of it, of course. And people cheer on! Utter chaos. This has prompted me to join a Discord group, and that's a disaster, because they don't even read books, and my dumb questions look better as private google queries instead of bothering honest people.