Techdirt Podcast Episode 105: The CES 2017 Post-Mortem

from the let's-do-it-again dept

Last year, we got a lot of positive feedback on our episode taking a look at the Consumer Electronics Show with the help of journalist Rob Pegoraro. So this year, we've brought Rob back for another look at the highs and lows of CES.

Also: we're getting ready to record our first exclusive patron-only episode for our supporters on Patreon, which means it's time for those who backed us at a level of $5/month or more to submit questions for the Q&A portion. If you're one of those patrons, you can now find a post calling for questions in our Patreon feed and submit yours in the comments. If you're not, but you want to submit a question or just get access to the episode once it's released, now's the time to support the Techdirt Podcast on Patreon.

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    Anonymous Coward, 17 Jan 2017 @ 1:22pm

    Also: we're getting ready to record our first exclusive patron-only episode for our supporters on Patreon, which means it's time for those who backed us at a level of $5/month or more to submit questions for the Q&A portion.

    Exclusive access behind a paywall?

    ROFLMAO!

    How very cutting-edge.

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      Mike Masnick (profile), 17 Jan 2017 @ 4:15pm

      Re:

      Who said being nice to people who support you is "cutting edge"? It's not. It's just doing something *extra* for people who support us. Why am I not surprised that you find doing something nice for people who support you something worth of mocking?

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        Anonymous Coward, 17 Jan 2017 @ 4:32pm

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        Exclusive offers, windowing, paywalls, etc. Funny how you resort to the very business models you mock incessantly. But, hey, you're the guy who hires people with little to no understanding of IP to write articles where they embarrassingly get the basics wrong while drawing legal conclusions. It's all good if they include the legal filing, though, right? You've got the internet down, my friend! #NerdHarder

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          Stan, 17 Jan 2017 @ 8:27pm

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          Love all those citations you provided. The examples you gave and well-reasoned refutations really changed my mind about the competency of TechDirt's writers.

          Thanks, Anonymous Coward!

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          Mike Masnick (profile), 17 Jan 2017 @ 10:38pm

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          Exclusive offers, windowing, paywalls, etc. Funny how you resort to the very business models you mock incessantly.

          If you think any of what you stated above is accurate, then it just shows you haven't been paying attention. I guess, given your regular statements around here, isn't much of a surprise.

          When will you learn that arguing against the fake strawman you setup just makes you look silly?

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            Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2017 @ 5:14am

            Re: Re: Re: Re:

            If you think any of what you stated above is accurate, then it just shows you haven't been paying attention. I guess, given your regular statements around here, isn't much of a surprise.

            When will you learn that arguing against the fake strawman you setup just makes you look silly?

            You're not making it available to everyone at the same time, a practice you condemn. You're creating artificial scarcity, a practice you condemn. You're creating deadweight loss, a practice you condemn. I can go on.

            Instead of just saying my argument is wrong, EXPLAIN why it's wrong. How are you not doing the very things you condemn? You haven't explained this because you can't. You are deflecting, not engaging.

            And don't think I didn't notice that you don't deny hiring people to reach legal conclusions about IP law that don't even know the basics. I'd be embarrassed too!

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              Anonymous Coward, 18 Jan 2017 @ 8:46am

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              Love all those citations you provided and double standards you demand enforced.

              Burden of proof is on the accuser. You've made the allegations - now substantiate them or fuck off.

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                Anonymous Coward, 19 Jan 2017 @ 5:30am

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

                I can't tell if you're serious. If you really don't know Mike's position on the economics of free, alt biz models, etc., you could start here: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=techdirt+feature

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                Meo, 22 Jan 2017 @ 10:58pm

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                I think he did provide some evidence. Aka the "you do the practices you condemn." I think it's a fair enough allegation to at least satisfy an initial burden of proof. I don't think he needs to show "exact citations" to make his point. Also, the "citations or it didn't happen," while good generally, can also be used to deflect an argument instead of engaging in it.

                I for one am genuinely curious why there is a special "members only club" that requires payment when most of the stuff on techdirt is about free things. This is what I want explained. Not with a link to something else, but a simple sentence or two. I think that is what the original commenter wants as well. Just a simple rebuttal instead of a "you clearly don't understand" response.

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              Anonymous Coward, 19 Jan 2017 @ 5:27am

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              CRICKETS.

              So predictable.

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              Leigh Beadon (profile), 20 Jan 2017 @ 5:13pm

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

              All episodes of the podcast, including the special episode and like all content published by Techdirt in all forms, is public domain. Our backers are free and indeed encouraged to share it with others.

              It aint much of a paywall when we claim no exclusive rights over the content to begin with.

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