Kim Dotcom Wins Human Rights Tribunal Case Over Kiwi Government Withholding Info

from the another-mistake-by-nz dept

It's really quite incredible how, at nearly every turn, the New Zealand government has managed to mess up the legal case against Kim Dotcom. The raid on his house was later declared to be illegal, using invalid warrants. Evidence that was seized from his home and illegally turned over to the FBI was ordered to be returned. Oh, and then there was the whole bit about conducting illegal surveillance on Dotcom, deleting evidence of that illegal spying, and ordering officials to "bury" information about that illegal surveillance to avoid embarrassing the Kiwi government.

And now we have the latest: A Human Rights Tribunal in New Zealand has declared that the New Zealand government violated Dotcom's rights in withholding information from him. Specifically, in July of 2015, Dotcom had made an information request (in New Zealand it's an "information privacy request" which appears to be a quasi-privacy/data protection-type right in New Zealand) to various officials in the government requesting whatever personal information they held on him. The recipients of the demands sent them to the Attorney General, who refused to comply with the demands, claiming they were "vexatious and included information that was trivial."

The Tribunal disagrees. It goes through, in pretty great detail, the procedural issues at play here, including an attempt to discover this information by way of his extradition case, which was denied by the court. But that still left open the information privacy request. The court then goes through the question of whether or not it was even appropriate for everyone who received the request to hand them over to the Attorney General. This is done in almost excruciating detail, which we'll save you from having to go through yourself (unless you'd like to dig in below). However, the tribunal sums up the issue by basically pointing out that the recipients of the request were not supposed to transfer those requests to the Attorney General in the first place, as they had no legitimate reason to do so under the law (the fact that Dotcom was fighting the government in an extradition case is not enough).

In these circumstances it was artificial for the Crown to argue that simply because the Attorney-General, Solicitor-General and Crown Law were the Crown’s legal advisers and conducting litigation against Mr Dotcom the transferring agencies could properly believe the information to which the requests related were more closely connected to the functions or activities of the Attorney-General, Solicitor-General or Crown Law as the providers of legal advice and representation to the Crown. If in the context of that litigation the Crown had wanted to coordinate its responses to the information requests and to the associated requests for urgency, it could have done so by giving advice to the agencies and by communicating any decision made by those agencies. No transfer under s 39 was required by the circumstances or permitted by s 39 itself

And, because of that:

As the transfers were not made in accordance with the Act the Attorney-General was not the lawful transferee under PA, s 39(b)(ii). The Attorney-General accordingly had no authority, as transferee, to refuse to disclose the requested information. In these circumstances Mr Dotcom has established that in terms of PA, s 66(2)(b) there was no proper basis for the refusal.

The next question on the docket was whether or not the requests were "vexatious," as the Attorney General had argued in refusing to release the information. The government's argument here was basically that it was "vexatious" because Dotcom had an "ulterior motive" to accessing the information, with that motive being to help him in his fight against being extradited to the US to face criminal charges. But the tribunal points out that this doesn't appear to be true:

We make the specific finding that Mr Dotcom has amply satisfied us, to the civil standard, that contrary to the assertion by the Crown, he had no ulterior motive in making the information privacy requests. The requests were entirely genuine and not intended to disrupt the extradition hearing.

Indeed, the tribunal actually notes that if anyone seemed to be focused on "disrupting" the extradition hearing, it was the New Zealand government, listing out the various things the government did, including:

  • unsuccessfully applying to revoke his bail when his then solicitors and counsel were granted leave to withdraw.
  • unsuccessfully opposing the release of restrained funds for living and legal expenses.
  • unsuccessfully opposing an adjournment of the eligibility hearing scheduled for 2 June 2015.
  • applying to register in New Zealand the USA forfeiture order obtained in that country on the basis of a fugitive disentitlement doctrine, a concept unknown to New Zealand law. If successful, this would have meant that Mr Dotcom would have no funds to live on, let alone to defend the extradition proceeding.
  • unsuccessfully opposing, and seeking to strike out, Mr Dotcom’s judicial review of the decision by the Deputy Solicitor-General (Criminal) to authorise the Commissioner of Police to register the USA forfeiture order.
  • refusing, until 23 June 2015, to respond to the legitimate concerns as to funding for New Zealand counsel raised by counsel for Mr Dotcom on 29 April 2015.
The tribunal further pointed out:

By making the information privacy requests he was not seeking to be disruptive or vexatious. Rather, based on previous unsuccessful attempts to gain access to information held by various agencies (which had been the subject of judicial review and appeals), he was trying to follow what he understood to be the process identified by the courts as available to him in the circumstances. He was also anxious to avoid the requests being delayed by drawn out litigation as the goal was to obtain the information and to use it in evidence.

The tribunal also laughs off the idea that the government could refuse to hand over the information because it was "irrelevant." As the ruling notes, how could Dotcom know if it was irrelevant until he had seen it?

There is also the point made by Mr Dotcom that without being given access to the information held by the Crown agencies, he cannot know whether the information is relevant to the extradition hearing. To require him to first establish relevance before being given access to the information turns the Privacy Act upside down and renders illusory the legal right of access to personal information held by state agencies.

There are a bunch of smaller claims made by the New Zealand government as part of this that the tribunal dismisses quickly -- often criticizing the silly arguments made by the government. Here's just one example of many:

The Crown’s submission is also difficult to accept given that not knowing what personal information was held by the agencies, Mr Dotcom could not be expected to identify information which was relevant to the stay application. As he said: “you do not know what you do not know”. The suggestion by the Solicitor-General that Mr Dotcom could be more specific was, in the circumstances, not helpful.

Given all this, the Tribunal says that the information requests should never have been passed on to the Attorney General to review, and there was no basis to refuse to disclose the information requested. In terms of remedies, the Tribunal orders the original information requests to be fulfilled, and the Attorney General needs to pay Dotcom $30,000 "for the loss of a benefit Mr Dotcom might reasonably have been expected to obtain but for the interference" and another $60,000 for "loss of dignity and injury to feelings." Dotcom can also petition the Tribunal to have his legal costs paid for by the New Zealand government, which I expect he'll do.

On Twitter, Kim Dotcom has declared that this means his extradition case is "over," though that seems to be a bit of an exaggeration:

I don't know enough about New Zealand judicial process to know how true the statement is. It will certainly be interesting to see how it does impact that case, though. I can't imagine it's a good thing for the government. In later tweets, Dotcom also suggests that government officials have destroyed the information he is requesting, but we'll see what happens when the request is finally fulfilled.

Either way, the book of examples of just how incredibly the New Zealand government has fucked up everything about this case at every single turn has now added yet another chapter.


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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 4:05am

    "The requests were entirely genuine and not intended to disrupt the extradition hearing."
    Of course having evidence or lack of evidence (from the Government destroying it as part of their continuing coverup) might have disrupted the hearing.

    How much more does the bullshit US case have to cost NZ before they consider perhaps bending over backwards & throwing out every concept of their law?

    Perhaps they worry they won't film the LOTR remake/reboot in NZ if they don't finish surrendering to what Hollywood demands, even if it screws their entire country again.

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      Wendy Cockcroft, 27 Mar 2018 @ 5:55am

      Re:

      That drag 'n' drop thing the NZ government did might well have been an effort to be seen to placate the US government, which was no doubt leaning hard on them, without actually handing Dotcom over.

      Or not.

      I like to think that their heavy-handed Keystone Kops antics were deliberate because otherwise it means they're idiots. I'm anti-authoritarian enough as it is.

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        Bergman (profile), 1 Apr 2018 @ 11:26pm

        Re: Re:

        Yeah, there's nothing quite like the realization that your government is using Police Squad as an operations handbook to remove any lingering respect you have for authority.

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 4:21am

    It's always good to escape the clutches of the Hollywood predators, even in Dotcoms case who trolled the CCC (chaos computer club) in the 90s. He's got his bad streaks, but noone should be at the mercy of the profiteers.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 4:24am

    Well, the only reason New Zealand authorities withheld information from Kim Dotcom was because there was no where to transfer all of the files to.

    In all fairness though after collecting years and years worth of legal documents it would have been a mega upload.

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    That One Guy (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 5:01am

    Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

    Where the USG and NZG demonstrate that breaking the law is bad, absolutely terrible... by breaking multiple laws in their attempts to railroad someone and make an example out of him.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 5:33am

      Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

      I honestly hope that he ends up winning big and both the NZ gov and the US one have to pay him hundreds of millions in recompense.

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        Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:10am

        Re: Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

        Even if Dotcom does win against both the NZ government and the US and it is ruled for the NZ government and US to pay him etc. The US will most likely raise their middle finger at Dotcom and say you aint getting a cent and there is nothing you can do to get us to pay you. What will Dotcom do then to get the money from the US?

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          That One Guy (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:45am

          Re: Re: Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

          "Sure you can get the monetary recompense the court ruled that you were due, but would you look at that, turns out the computers are on the fritz and can't handle a digital transfer.

          Looks like if you want the money you'll need to come pick it up. In person. In the US. Unless of course you don't want the money, in which case simply stay where you are for at least a week, after which case we'll assume you're not interested and keep it."

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          James Burkhardt (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:34am

          Re: Re: Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

          Well, in theory he wouldn't need to. Its established in the record that NZ seized and/or allowed to be seized everything and handed it over to the US. But the seizure went beyond anything necessary to establish the crime, and physical assets were seized in a manner contrary to NZ law, with illegally obtained warrants. This establishes the NZ government as the proximate cause of his deprivation of those assets, as they should have protected the rights of a NZ citizen residing in NZ. If NZ has issues with curing the violations of his rights, they could certainly attempt to recover from the US themselves.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 12:41pm

          Re: Re: Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

          All Dotcom has to do after a favorable ruling that leaves the US owing him is go to World Court. Another favorable ruling to him over what the US owes him could be settled by him having a legal right to ignore all copyright and patent rights granted in the US.

          Now wouldn't that go over well?

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 12:56pm

          Re: Re: Re: Ah copyright 'enforcement'...

          There was the one trade court case where they pissed the judge off so badly with their non-compliance that they were authorized to sell a certain retail equivalent ammount of media digitally. I don't believe they followed through in that case, but it would be hillarious poetic justice if Dotcom received authorization to pirate hundreds of millions worth of content (and not RIAA inflated figures for 3 cds to a few thousand) as punishment for their overreach.

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 5:07am

    "Either way, the book of examples of just how incredibly the New Zealand government has fucked up everything about this case at every single turn has now added yet another chapter."

    And how many more times of the NZ government and US have to be exposed of doing illegal things in this case before someone in the NZ government or US comes out and say "We could of got away with it it is want't for those pesky kids".

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 5:13am

    out_of_the_blue, wrong? I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!

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    Oblate (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:12am

    Damage control

    This seems really damaging to the US/NZ government's case. Is the Tribunal going to be extradited?

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:22am

    Given that this tribunal proves that the AG's prosecution of Dotcom was not in good faith (which I'm sure is his next argument), he may very well now be able to get his extradition case kicked, though probably without prejudice, if NZ has that legal concept.

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  • identicon
    Apteryx, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:32am

    Choice Bro! This outcome is majestical

    Wilderpeople rejoice!

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    nerd bert (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:51am

    Malice vs. Incompetence

    Either way, the book of examples of just how incredibly the New Zealand government has fucked up everything about this case at every single turn has now added yet another chapter.

    Normally you should never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence.

    This is not a normal case and I think we can rule out incompetence.

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:59am

    You mean... Business as Usual?

    "It's really quite incredible how, at nearly every turn, the New Zealand government has managed to mess up the legal case against Kim Dotcom."

    It's government, it is full of the same humans that lie, cheat, steal, rob, and generally allow their emotions to decide how they do their jobs. Kinda like all other humans on the planet. The ONLY incredible thing is how humans keep asking for more of it! It's like people never remember that the people running government are composed of the same people that you would never trust with your safety, money, or privacy!

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      That One Guy (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 8:26am

      Re: You mean... Business as Usual?

      As opposed to...?

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:37am

        Re: Re: You mean... Business as Usual?

        As opposed to what? Do I need to offer an alternative solution every-time I tell someone they might not want to jump off a cliff? I assume that telling them not to jump off a cliff was a good solution on its own and to just... find a different way, whatever way that might be.

        Or do you need to have your hand held, like most other humans?

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          The Wanderer (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 7:59pm

          Re: Re: Re: You mean... Business as Usual?

          I think the question is, "Since you're saying all the humans on the planet are bad like this, who are you saying should be in government instead of them?".

          If you can't suggest any alternatives that would be better, attacking people for not choosing a better alternative is hardly a reasonable or productive line to take.

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            Chip, 27 Mar 2018 @ 12:04pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re: You mean... Business as Usual?

            I have Lots and "lots" of SUGGESTIONS! I have so "Many" suggestions that I am Not going to List Any of them!

            Every Nation eats the Paint chips it Deserves!

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:24am

    Kim Dotcom illegally exploited the work of artists and therefore is a hero to Mike Masnick- just in case it isn’t already obvious.

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      Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:31am

      Re:

      I would be interested in studying the brain imbalance that gives you such a warped view of reality.

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      That One Guy (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:33am

      Re:

      Even assuming your hilarious lie/strawman was accurate you would seem to be rooting for the ones who are willing to bend if not break multiple laws in going after Dotcom, so you are in no position to be throwing stones there, though it does nicely show your priorities.

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      Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 9:52am

      Re:

      More like he gave artists a way to make money from their own works, even if that meant uploading a pirate copy.

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      Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 12:16pm

      Re:

      Stormy got you too jelly to do a full psycho rant?

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      Anonymous Coward, 27 Mar 2018 @ 1:41am

      Re:

      And the copyright cartels responded with an act of terrorism and therefore are heroes to you.

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 10:31am

    all that's needed now is for Obama to grow a pair and appear in court, tell the truth (as an ex president, that may be difficult, being well trained in telling lies and bullshit) stating who got him to do what, why and for whom and perhaps the truth about what a bunch of self-righteous assholes those in Hollywood and the entertainment industries actually are and how they have inhibited so much from advancing, in order to stay in control of what they want, then maybe the world can evolve!!

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      Wendy Cockcroft, 27 Mar 2018 @ 6:00am

      Re:

      Eh, that'd be the Attorney General, Eric Holder. As President I doubt Obama got any more involved than his successor Trump has.

      You do know Trump is president now and if he wanted to he could tell Jeff Sessions to end the case. But he hasn't. I daresay it's because he doesn't know about it and if he does I doubt he gives a rat's.

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    Pixelation, 26 Mar 2018 @ 10:35am

    You know the government is fucked up when

    you root for a sleazeball to win a case against them.

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    Ninja (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 11:09am

    The thing is, even if you don't sympathize with the guy (and I personally don't), even if he actually did wrong things (I'm still not sure), everything that has been done to strip him the means to defend himself and to deny him due process gets you cheering on him and hoping he prevails in courts. And we are talking about the problems with NZ law enforcement. When you add the US things get much uglier.

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    Jinxed (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 11:49am

    "Either way, the book of examples of just how incredibly the New Zealand government has fucked up everything about this case at every single turn has now added yet another chapter."

    Is MegaUpload back online? No? Then the government doesn't care.

    The outcome is precisely what they wanted, thanks to US pressure.

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    Uriel-238 (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 1:58pm

    I remember it was the day of the SOPA internet blackout.

    When ICE raided the Dotcom manor with MPAA advisors in tow it put a weird pall on the retreat from SOPA in Washington. And we here on TD were all WTF?

    I think this raid and a iPhone 5 prototype SWAT raid later both put into sharp relief that government agencies work at the pleasure of the corporations, not to serve the public.

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    ECA (profile), 26 Mar 2018 @ 1:58pm

    Checks in the mail??

    For all this evidence..
    ALL of this could have been over in 2 years..YEARS AGO..

    NOW for the Filing about LOSS OF BUSINESS. Interference of ??? is a Major case(forgot the name).

    Also can we add Corporate Espionage??
    Duplicity?

    Any thing more we can add??
    Unless the USA passes the buck to the movie industry...THEY ARE GOING TO GET HIT HARD...
    PS..WE PAY FOR THE IDIOTS??

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 4:12pm

    Meanwhile, Megaupload's hard drives are getting rot somewhere.

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    Fentex, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:19pm

    What next..?

    There's a chance Dotcom may persue a private prosecution against the person of the once (we've had a change of government) Attorney General over this.

    A private prosecution, for U.S readers (for I believe this doesn't happen there), is when a person uses the courts to enforce criminal (as opposed to, say, contract) law the government has decided not to (so political reticence can be over-ridden by citizens acting on their own recognisance - the courts exist for all).

    I don't know if he will, but there seems a case to made that personal malice in abuse of office was directed at Dotcom - a criminal offence he may pursue prosecution of.

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    Anonymous Coward, 26 Mar 2018 @ 6:39pm

    slaying the dragon

    The writing was on the wall from the very first day when Dotcom's arrest on a minor non-violent crime charge was an even bigger and more extravagant operation than SEAL Team 6's storming of Osama bin Laden's secret hideout. After having made such a big investment in his presumed guilt, New Zealand authorities were no doubt under severe pressure to win the case by any means necessary, whether fair or foul.

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