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by Karl Bode


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The FCC's Evidence-Optional Blacklist Of Huawei Is About Protectionism, Not National Security

from the evidence-schmevidence dept

Last week we noted that Best Buy was the latest to join a growing, evidence-optional blacklisting of Huawei based on ambiguous "national security" concerns. We also noted how despite a lot of hand-wringing on certain fronts for most of this decade, nobody has been able to provide evidence that Huawei actively spies on American consumers, the justification for similar blacklisting by AT&T and Verizon earlier this year (both bosom bodies with the NSA, it probably goes without saying). Few news outlets bother to mention an 18-month investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing by Huawei.

While it's certainly possible Huawei is embedding backdoors no security researcher has been able to ferret out, it's just as possible that we're engaging in good, old-fashioned vanilla protectionism dressed up as ambiguous national security concerns. As one anonymous source told the Washington Post during the last flare up of Huawei phobia, getting non-tech savvy lawmakers riled up on this subject isn't particularly difficult:

"What happens is you get competitors who are able to gin up lawmakers who are already wound up about China,” said one Hill staffer who was not authorized to speak publicly about the matter. “What they do is pull the string and see where the top spins."

There's a large contingency of folks who breathlessly profess dedication to free trade and open competition at every opportunity, yet can somehow pivot to protectionism on a dime -- despite criticizing China for doing the same thing. That apparently includes the FCC, which this week announced it would be joining the evidence-optional blacklist of Huawei by banning U.S. telcos from buying Huawei gear if they take taxpayers subsidies. From a statement by FCC boss Ajit Pai issued to the media this week:

"Threats to national security posed by certain communications equipment providers are a matter of bipartisan concern. Hidden ‘back doors’ to our networks in routers, switches—and virtually any other type of telecommunications equipment—can provide an avenue for hostile governments to inject viruses, launch denial-of-service attacks, steal data, and more. Although the FCC alone can’t safeguard the integrity of our communications supply chain, we must and will play our part in a government- and industry-wide effort to protect the security of our networks."

Again though, nobody has provided a shred of public evidence that Huawei routinely spies on American consumers. And the evidence that we do have routinely indicates that the United States is in no position to throw stones anyway. Edward Snowden documents revealed that not only did the NSA break into Huawei starting in 2007 to steal source code and implant its own backdoors, but that the agency also intercepted Cisco hardware en route for the same purpose. So again, the real message being sent here is that this kind of behavior is only acceptable if the United States does it.

In his statement, Pai declares that he's solely looking out for the welfare of the American public (you know, like he did during the net neutrality repeal), and that the agency will vote on the proposal next month:

"That’s why I’m proposing to prohibit the FCC’s $8.5 billion Universal Service Fund from being used to purchase equipment or services from any company that poses a national security threat to the integrity of communications networks or their supply chains. The money in the Universal Service Fund comes from fees paid by the American people, and I believe that the FCC has the responsibility to ensure that this money is not spent on equipment or services that pose a threat to national security. On April 17, I hope that my fellow Commissioners will join me in supporting this important proposal to help protect our national security."

But many small cable operators appear to see what this effort is really about. One Oregon cable operator told the Wall Street Journal this week that using Huawei gear saved them around $150,000 when they were trying to expand broadband into rural markets (something you'll recall Pai insists is a priority). They appear to be well aware that this effort is about protectionism and nationalism, not national security:

"“Our margins are pretty thin,” Mr. Franell said. “If you start dictating what kind of equipment I can use, it tips the scales.” He said he thinks the new legislation making the rounds in Washington is more likely driven by nationalism and protectionism than by real concerns about hacking and spying. ”I’m not going to rework my whole business plan based off a rumor or an unsubstantiated allegation,” he said.

Again, there's an ocean of ways China can (and does) spy on the United States without Huawei's help. Chinese hardware is literally everywhere, including in many of the products manufactured by U.S. companies. And given the fact that we're happily connecting security-optional internet of things devices to home and business networks like it's going out of fashion, there's ample opportunities to spy on Americans -- with Americans' oblivious enthusiasm.

U.S. networking and smartphone manufacturers are particularly afraid of losing ground to China in the race to deploy faster fifth-generation (5G) networks and handsets. But instead of competing, we're apparently going to double down on the argument that Huawei (and other Chinese network vendors) are rampant national security threats, while ignoring we routinely engage in the same or worse behavior (except with proof). It's protectionism plain and simple, but if you wave your hands hysterically and patriotically enough, nobody (including the American tech press) will apparently call you on it.


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    Dwight Brown (profile), 28 Mar 2018 @ 1:46pm

    Okay, so we can't boycott Huawei because that's protectionist.

    Can we boycott them because their products are [utter crap](http://phenoelit.org/stuff/Huawei_DEFCON_XX.pdf)instead?

    >One Oregon cable operator told the Wall Street Journal this
    >week that using Huawei gear saved them around $150,000 when >they were trying to expand broadband into rural markets

    As Click and Clack used to say, "It's the stingy man who spends the most."

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    hij (profile), 28 Mar 2018 @ 1:51pm

    Boycott the snoopers!

    If we start boycotting companies and agencies that spy on us then there are a few others that I would like to put on the list first.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 1:54pm

    How, specifically, will it work?

    The Ars Technica story said:

    FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's new proposal would prevent Universal Service Fund money from being used "to purchase equipment or services from any communications equipment or service providers identified as posing a national security risk to communications networks or the communications supply chain."

    Is it the FCC claiming Huawei is a security risk, or do they outsource that to another federal agency? If so, which? The rule as written seems reasonable enough; it's Huawei being "identified as posing a national security risk" that's questionable.

    Of course, our telecommunications systems should be designed to be resilient against "bad" network equipment anyway, such this it couldn't pose a "national security risk"... whatever inconvenience this may cause to the FBI and NSA.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 1:59pm

    So the FCC is arguing against the FBI?

    "Threats to national security posed by certain communications equipment providers are a matter of bipartisan concern. Hidden ‘back doors’ to our networks in routers, switches—and virtually any other type of telecommunications equipment—can provide an avenue for hostile governments"

    At least Ajit is on the right side of the encryption debate.

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      Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:45pm

      Re: So the FCC is arguing against the FBI?

      At least Ajit is on the right side of the encryption debate.

      Quite the opposite. If we encrypted everything, including metadata, Huawei would pose no security threat to us. Way way back in the 1990s (cf. Crypto Wars Episode I: The Clipper Chip), the cypherpunks were saying we should do exactly this: treat the network as untrusted, assume it's already compromised, and make sure you're still resilient.

      Encryption doesn't entirely fix widespread denial-of-service concerns, i.e. the possibility that Huawei embedded a "shut off the internet" backdoor command. (Though we're more likely to see this if they forget to renew a cert or domain, like when every Oculus Rift stopped working.) Diversity of network equipment is still necessary for that.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:04pm

    "While it's certainly possible Huawei is embedding backdoors no security researcher has been able to ferret out, it's just as possible that we're engaging in good, old-fashioned vanilla protectionism dressed up as ambiguous national security concerns."

    You don't need a backdoor when everyone buying the device is signing up to let them in the front door. And no government will ever miss the opportunity to control things under the guise of national security concerns when such options are available.

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:18pm

    What's most egregious about all this non-sense is if they were actually concerned about China installing backdoors in things that are made in China, aren't a fuck ton of our other electronics that are made by so-called american companies just made in China anyway? I thought all iPhones were made in China. Why aren't they afraid that iPhones are being backdoored?

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:18pm

    typical usa! do whatever is deemed necessary to stop a country doing no harm at all, then complain bitterly when that country retaliates in exactly the same way, having proof to back up what it's saying! guess you cant beat being a hypocritical asshole!!

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    Mike Partin (profile), 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:30pm

    So how does this work?

    Back doors in our networking gear can lead to "provide an avenue for hostile governments to inject viruses, launch denial-of-service attacks, steal data, and more." but back doors in our encryption? Totally safe. Nothing to see here, move along people.

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    Nicolas, 28 Mar 2018 @ 2:31pm

    Bosom bodies?

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    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2018 @ 3:11pm

    Karl, I'm beginning to think you're on the take. Why can't you simply sell whiny moral panic like Tim Cushing?

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    PartTimeZombie (profile), 28 Mar 2018 @ 3:15pm

    Five Eyes

    I live in a five eyes country, and am posting this over national internet infrastructure almost entirely supplied by Huawei.
    If there was any real risk there's no way the US would have let us purchase the gear we wound up buying.

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    An Onymous Coward (profile), 28 Mar 2018 @ 3:15pm

    Whataboutery

    ...the argument that Huawei (and other Chinese network vendors) are rampant national security threats, while ignoring we routinely engage in the same or worse behavior...

    Maybe it is protectionism. Maybe it's a guarding against a legitimate threat. We can't and don't know until we're shown the evidence you point out is absent. The absence, so far, of that evidence is not proof this is protectionism.

    But even if it is, the heavy rhetoric about the US engaging in the same behavior is pure whataboutery. Argue the issue on its own merits. If it stands on its own then great. But the way this article is written is pure sensationalism.

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    Lord Lidl of Cheem (profile), 29 Mar 2018 @ 1:39am

    And in tonight's news,
    Country trying to mandate invisible global backdoors cries about invisible global backdoors.

    It's almost like these guys take a hypocritic oath...

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    Ya dont say.., 29 Mar 2018 @ 3:55am

    Like mentioned..

    Every everything that is plugged in to a power source is made in China.

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    ECA (profile), 29 Mar 2018 @ 2:24pm

    reallly????????

    Im...
    Thinking...
    that Just because they WONT ADD DECRYPTION TO ROUTERS....
    they wont get the job??

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    NaBUru38 (profile), 31 Mar 2018 @ 1:06pm

    Of course the Huawei ban is about national security.

    Huawei probably refuses to collaborate with the US gvernment to do massive surveillance, because they have an exclusive deal with the Chinese government and its allies. And the NSA, CIA and FBI don't tolerate it.

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