District Court Smacks Down Tiffany (Yet Again) In Fight With eBay Over Counterfeit Items

from the will-tiffany-ever-learn? dept

Back in April, we noted the latest in the rather long saga of Tiffany's legal fight against eBay. Tiffany had sued eBay, claiming that the online auction site was legally responsible for policing the site for counterfeit Tiffany items that users were selling. Despite the lack of a clear safe harbor (a la the DMCA or the CDA), the appeals court agreed with the district court that eBay was not liable for the actions of third parties on its site. The one area where the appeals court sent the issue back to the lower court concerned eBay's own advertisements. eBay had apparently run some ads that mentioned the availability of Tiffany products on the site, and Tiffany claimed this made them liable. The court noted that it didn't appear this was false advertising (as there was nothing false in the ads), but that it might confuse or mislead users. It asked the lower court to look into that specific claim.

It didn't take all that long, as the lower court once again sided with eBay and said that eBay did nothing wrong here:
"Tiffany failed to establish that eBay intentionally set out to deceive the public, much less that eBay's conduct was of an egregious nature sufficient to create a presumption that consumers were being deceived,"
You can also read the full opinion thanks to Eric Goldman:
The case isn't quite over yet, as Tiffany keeps appealing various aspects of it, but it certainly doesn't look good for Tiffany -- but does appear very good for anyone who believes in the principles of properly applying liability to those who did the actions, rather than the "easy target" third party (even in the absence of official safe harbors).


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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 14th, 2010 @ 4:53pm

    "but does appear very good for anyone who believes in the principles of properly applying liability to those who did the actions, rather than the "easy target" third party"

    Like how techdirt always blames patents instead of blaming patent trolls when someone sues over a patent. No hypocrisy here, nope none.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 14th, 2010 @ 5:01pm

    Re:

    If there were no patents or patent system, there would be no patent trolls.

    Patents are not a "third party", they are at the core of the issue (of patents).

    Or are you saying that when a system is clearly not working, you should ignore the bugs and just blame the users?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 14th, 2010 @ 5:07pm

    Why didn't Tiffany spend all that money and resources tracking down the counterfeiters? They could have nailed a couple of them by now and possibly discouraged other from counterfeiting.

     

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    Chris in Utah (profile), Sep 14th, 2010 @ 5:22pm

    Re:

    Next time use the search function and read just a little. And this article, if nothing else says otherwise...

    Big Time Patent Attorney Jumps Into The Patent Trolling Game By Buying 4,500 Patents From Micron

    ...Such is the state of our broken patent system.

     

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    Chris in Utah (profile), Sep 14th, 2010 @ 5:31pm

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 14th, 2010 @ 6:57pm

    Re: Re:

    If there was no legal system then there would be no lawsuits.

    Law suits are not a third party, they are at the core of the issue (of lawsuits).

    Or are you saying that when a system is clearly not working, you should ignore the bugs and just blame the users?

     

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    Greg G, Sep 14th, 2010 @ 8:25pm

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    Because that would be too much work. Easier to try and sue the entity with all the cash.

     

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    BearGriz72 (profile), Sep 14th, 2010 @ 8:57pm

    Tiffany keeps appealing...

    Good luck with that ... NOT!

     

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    mike allen (profile), Sep 14th, 2010 @ 10:31pm

    pity the courts dont take the same stance with the MAFIAA et al.

     

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    Michael, Sep 15th, 2010 @ 4:40am

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    When making a decision about who to sue, always take into account the size of everyone's wallet.

     

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    Marcus Carab (profile), Sep 15th, 2010 @ 6:34am

    Re:

    Patent trolls are just one of the things Techdirt points to as a bad outcome of the patent system. You may have noticed that the site is full of broader economic arguments as well.

    Read up a little bit on the patent thicket in the tech sector. Those aren't patent trolls - those are big companies where waging an ongoing patent-war has become just another standard (and useless) part of daily business.

     

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    PaulT (profile), Sep 16th, 2010 @ 4:13am

    Not the same Tiffany, but I always try to help interesting independent productions as often as possible...

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/

     

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