by Mike Masnick

Filed Under:
authority, fcc, net neutrality, traffic shaping

comcast, fcc

Comcast Says FCC Has No Authority To Stop Traffic Shaping

from the lawsuit-already-shaping-up dept

This probably won't come as much of a surprise, but Comcast is now suggesting that the FCC doesn't have the authority to regulate its traffic shaping activities. This comes in response to Kevin Martin suggesting that the FCC would rule against Comcast for traffic shaping (which seemed odd enough, considering that Martin was perfectly fine with AT&T traffic shaping). Comcast is already suing the FCC over its telco favoritism, so this might just be one more thing to toss on the pile.

It's tough to know who to favor in this situation -- but Comcast may be technically correct that this extends beyond the FCC's authority. Still, it might not be good policy for the company to say so, considering the efforts being made to put in place net neutrality legislation. If supporters of this legislation notice what Comcast is saying, it might just explicitly add language to the bill to give the FCC the authority that Comcast now says it doesn't have. So, even if Comcast is right, saying so out loud may not have been the wisest move at this juncture.

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  1. identicon
    Network Admin, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 2:14pm


    WHoo hoo

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  2. identicon
    Woadan, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 2:15pm

    An ironic outcome would be for the court to rule that the FCC was allowed to watchdog network neutrality, but if it will, it must apply the rules fairly and evenly to all broadband providers.

    Will K-Mart do it to annoy Comcast but in turn annoy his telco buddies? Or will K-Mart leave Comcast alone to keep peace with his telco peeps?

    Nosy, er, inquiring minds want to know!

    News at 11!


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  3. identicon
    Godeater, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 2:26pm

    Comcast can try what the might, we will reroute them!

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  4. identicon
    Nicko, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 3:12pm

    telecommunication carriers

    It all comes down to how one interprets the definition of 'telecommunication carrier'. The telecommunications acts specify rules for exchange carriers, telecom carriers, broadcast services, and cable services. In the 1996 acts it was pretty simple, if you sell phone services your in telecom, if you push media via radio you abide by broadcast rights, and if you pushed media via cable you were a cable service.

    But now what services you offer have nothing to do with the medium you offer it over. So what about TV over copper trunks? Phone over cable? Do you have to abide by all the rules then, or is it differentiated by medium or by service?

    The 'Telecommunication Acts of 1996' need to be ratified by the 'Digital Media and Content Services act of 20XX' whenever someone gets around to writing one.

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 3:35pm

    Re: telecommunication carriers

    Better get started!!

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  6. identicon
    sparkplug, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 3:58pm

    What's traffic shaping?

    It's it like body sculpting? Or is it more like Censorship Lite. Now 98% free of things mid-westerners find offensive!

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  7. identicon
    Bryan Price, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 4:27pm

    Predicted this week.

    Brett Glass already predicted this:
    from Dave Farbers IP list.

    And I'm not the only one who has made that argument. Comcast and other providers are already preparing to sue if the FCC attempts to appropriate our bandwidth for P2P -- which, ironically, is overwhelmingly used for criminal activity.

    Of course, Brett comes off like a screaming child in his little rant, and there are a couple of good responses in that thread if you care to read them.

    And yes, Brett throws Comcast into the fray, as if he's sure that this is going to happen. How he knew would be an interesting question.

    And calling P2P overwhelmingly criminal? Since when did a civil offense become criminal?

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    Anonymous Coward, Mar 20th, 2008 @ 6:43pm

    That's Comcrapic

    Now when the talking heads say "See you later' they mean it.


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  9. identicon
    http://tinyurl.com/2usdx4, Mar 21st, 2008 @ 4:09am


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  10. identicon
    Brett Glass, Mar 29th, 2008 @ 8:33pm

    Re: Predicted this week.

    Actually, it is the P2Pers, who want their pirated music and video at zero cost and won't tolerate a moment's delay in getting them, who might be said to be screaming like children. I'm simply advocating reasonable network management practices. And I am neither screaming about it nor slandering others, as you attempt to do to me above.

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  11. identicon
    a-roid, Mar 31st, 2008 @ 10:26pm

    f comcast

    Comcast is a monopoly. I hope the FCC shuts them down. They get paid Billions through, advertisement/commercials....and then they charge a $50 dollar minimum for a FEW channels. Funny we have to pay to watch TV. The Billions they make in advertisement. Remember when you could watch a TV without cable,,,,,,free of charge? You still can...good luck seeing through all the snow even with an antenna. Yup, comcast has complete control, so much that you can't get a clear picture without cable..

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  12. identicon
    A, Apr 7th, 2008 @ 8:47am

    comcast internet email access

    it's really bothering me, that i have to always open the main page comcast.net in order to access my email at work. every time i do that it opens all this commercial page with ton's of junk 2 times (not ones) , in order to get to my email ( i already pay them 50 bucks for internet ). it's annoying to open all that junk just to get to my email during the work hours, and my boss bypass behind, and think i am checking out what j.lopez had for breakfast. i use to open www.comcast.net/login, and it work to skip that, but they figured it out lately, and they reroute you to their stupid main page. anyone has any tricks for this ?

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  13. identicon
    Brett Glass, Jul 12th, 2008 @ 9:26pm

    Re: Predicted this week.

    Mr. Price, it's you who comes off like a screaming child -- and also an ignorant one. Title 17, Chapter 5, Section 506 of the US Code states that copyright infringement is a criminal offense if one reproduces or distributes (among other things) more than $1,000 worth of material. So, indeed, P2P (which was invented, by the way, for the purpose of infringing copyrights) is virtually always used for criminal activity.

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