The Pirate Bay To Sue Entertainment Companies For Attacks
from the could-get-interesting dept
Well, this could get interesting. Following the leak of MediaDefender's emails, the folks behind The Pirate Bay now believe they have enough evidence to sue many major entertainment firms for "infrastructural sabotage, denial of service attacks, hacking and spamming." Basically, there's evidence in the emails that a bunch of firms, including Universal, EMI, Sony, Paramount and others were using MediaDefender to try to mess with The Pirate Bay's system. Whether or not the lawsuit actually goes anywhere may depend on a lot of factors (including Swedish laws, which I am totally unfamiliar with). There may be some questions about how the emails in question were obtained. And, of course, the entertainment companies will likely counter that they were just trying to protect their own materials -- which could find a sympathetic ear in a courtroom. Either way it would be quite a lawsuit.

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Pirate bay suiing attackers
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Pirate Bay
Fire at will Matey.
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These guy have Big b@lls!
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the end doesnt justify the means
"infrastructural sabotage, denial of service attacks, hacking and spamming."
there are no "except.."
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its 50/50 on the case
That part of the evidence is easy. Proving the IP's are attached to the companies involved is also very easy. So don't assume they need to use the mediadefender emails to prove anything at this point :) All they have to do is identify the IP's that were registered and the original registrants, and I sincerely hope the media companies changed the identities since then! specifically because in doing so it proves more illegality, since there are records kept when domain name changes are made.
Easy legal case done and done!
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Pirates of the Internet: At Law's End.
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Re: @ GoblinJuice
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Easy way out
It works for defendants of RIAA lawsuits. Why shouldn't it work for MediaDefender?
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If the Swedish legal system...
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Re: Easy way out
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Pumpsie
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Huh? You need to explain that one.
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Re: Re: Re:by Pumpsie Green
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First a small cartel of companies rip off the artists for their content.
Then this cartel bribes legislators making them sole distributor of the content.
Then the pirates rip off the first set of thieves by making the content freely available to the world.
Now the pirates are going to sue the thieves for interfering with their delivery system.
This is going to be a hoot!
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God I love internet.
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hahahah
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Pirate Bay
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Re: Re: Easy way out
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Link doesn't match your statement
"The Pirate Bay now believe they have enough evidence to sue many major entertainment firms for "infrastructural sabotage, denial of service attacks, hacking and spamming."
When I look at the link, all it says is the Pirate Bay reported these alleged incidents to the police. No mention of a lawsuit.
I really doubt that a lawsuit would follow because the Pirate Bay would open itself up to discovery from all the firms mentioned in the link.
This looks pretty much like a publicity stunt.
Mike your analysis about the whether the emails and how they were obtained and whether they would end up admissible in court is more interesting.
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Toss of the coin
Isn't this a bit like calling the cops when the guy you try to buy pot from robs you?
That actually was done locally by one of Our Best and Brightest. The transcript of the complaint call to the PD was just a stitch.
This, I think, is more along the lines of Bill Cosby's "Toss of the Coin." "Cap'n Pirates, this here's Cap'n Establishment. Call the toss, Cap'n Establishment ... OK, Establishment called heads, it's tails, what will you do, Pirates? ... Cap'n Pirates say you boys got to get down ready to hike the ball like usual while their entire team sneaks up from behind and kicks y'all inna nuts."
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Jumbo,
And it wont make ThePirateBay liable for all previous suits as in Swedish law there is nothing illegal about meerly linking to unauthorized materials. The trackers present on thepiratebay merely link to the files located on their users computers.
What IS illegal however is getting someone to cause real damage to services offered by hacking and DDoSing. thepiratebay believes that it has enough evidence to win. It is only going after companies with representation in Sweden, because unlike **IA and gang it doesn't make up laws and use illegal tactics. The use of these emails in court will be fine as they were not the ones that illegally obtained them, they were using them after they had been released.
Its about time someone showed these record companies that its not ok for them to just ignore/make up the law, and they are not above it.
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I may be wrong on this however, but it is all the Blog post from them seems to show.
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Of course, if it is flagrant enough then it actually might happen, though I personally believe it won't, because of pressure from the upper echelons of prosecutors. Those seems to follow the wishes of MAFIAA in whatever they want :(
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Arr!
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Yar
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The 'Entertainment' companies were trying to hack, sabotage and DDoS their servers. That is illegal in the majority of countries. So it would appear that the MAFIAA is about to loose this one.
This will be awesome for sure!
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Nothing will happen.
Remember the catalyst behind the raid against PB before, basically our legal system being in the pocket of strong financial interests from another country?
We've even had representatives here "educating" our police in the matter, apparently leaning on them and telling them what to do as well.
Doesn't that give you a warm fuzzy feeling?
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Lawyers win everytime
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Re: Nothing will happen.
Judging from the outcry and just general unhappyness directed at the swedish government for being a US pawn, i dont think they want to risk it again.
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Re: Lawyers win everytime
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Re: Link doesn't match your statement
Title of the post on the Pirate Bay site: "TPB files charges against media companies"
Hence my title. So, actually, the link does support the claim that they're planning to sue.
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Because they have material assets in, and do business with... Sweden.
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Re: Re: Link doesn't match your statement
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God Bless The Pirate Bay
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GO GET EM!!!!!
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Interesting..
2. there is a trick in the USA...ITs NOT the law that was broken, its the STATE you file it in..
Something MAY not be legal IN your state, but you can FILE from a state that IT IS illegal...
Ever wonder WHY most banking is done in Delaware?? Wilmington?? LOOK up the laws THERE...BANKING LAWS.
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Re: its 50/50 on the case
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Maybe.
..you know, like the people who have been saying this whole time.
I really hope something comes from this.
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Re: Maybe.
It works a little differently when its a company being charged, TPB doesnt have to prove it was an individual in that company, they meerly have to prove that it was an internal IP address from the company involved. Now this still doesnt bring enough evidence, but they think from this new leak of emails they have enough evidence in conjunction with some IP's to take these guys down a notch.
I havent seen the golden emails but id think they would have to have some good stuff to actually file for charges.
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Re: Interesting..
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"It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer."
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hmmm..
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MediaDefender
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counter suit by Pirates Bay...
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Re: Re: @ GoblinJuice
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HaHaHAHAHAHAH!
I would laugh so incredibly hard if TPB actually succeeded.
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Re: hahahah
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Niiice
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Re: Niiice- My bad
It seems like if The Pirate Bay was a physical senitent entity then it would probably say "Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who the fuck I am? You must not know who the fuck i am! I'm the juggernaut bitch!"
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