Judge Just Noticed The Obvious Problem With Trump Suing His Own IRS For $10 Billion
from the no-adversary,-no-case dept
One of the more frustrating things about the case in which Donald Trump sued the IRS that he runs, demanding $10 billion over nothing, was that it seemed like it might just work, and there might be nothing that could be done to stop it. But at least one federal judge (luckily the one overseeing this “case”) is at least somewhat concerned about all this.
First, a quick recap, in part just to remind ourselves just how absolutely batshit crazy this situation is. Every major candidate for US President since Richard Nixon has voluntarily released his or her tax returns as a reasonable act of transparency to the public. Trump refused claiming (nonsensically) that he could not do so because he was being audited. He also promised to release them once the audit was complete. All of this was bullshit. Richard Nixon (who started this practice) was dealing with audit when he released his tax returns. Also, Trump refused to release returns from earlier that were outside of the returns supposedly being audited. Also, it’s been ten freaking years since he made that promise — and no tax returns have been released. Not willingly, anyway.
In 2019 and 2020 an IRS contractor, named Charles Littlejohn, leaked Trump’s tax returns (along with some other wealthy people) to the NY Times and Propublica, both of whom wrote stories about Trump’s ability to dodge paying taxes and to represent very different profit numbers to the IRS as compared to lenders. Littlejohn was arrested and is currently in prison, serving a five-year sentence for the leak.
Trump received effectively zero consequences for his sketchy tax return practices, or his false claims about being willing to release the returns to the public.
Instead, after he returned to the White House he decided to sue the IRS, which he runs, for an insane $10 billion. And when asked about it, he admitted that he was basically negotiating with himself over how much taxpayer money would be put into his own bank account. Earlier this month we noted a filing in the case about how Trump’s lawyers were asking for more time because they were trying to negotiate a “settlement” — with themselves. Can you just imagine how those meetings were going?
However, on Friday, the judge overseeing the case, Kathleen Williams, finally called out the emperor’s lack of clothes, noting that the core of the American judicial system was that you needed two adversarial parties with an actual controversy between them, and that didn’t appear to be the case here:
A key characteristic of the case or controversy requirement is the existence of adverseness, or “a dispute between parties who face each other in an adversary proceeding.” Aetna Life Ins. Co. of Hartford, Conn. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227, 242 (1937). “There must be an honest and actual antagonistic assertion of rights by one individual against another, which is neither feigned nor collusive.” Muransky, 979 F.3d at 981 (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). Typically, adverseness is found in a situation where one party is asserting its right and the other party is resisting. Nat’l Lab. Rels. Bd. v. Constellium Rolled Prods. Ravenswood, LLC, 43 F.4th 395, 400 (4th Cir. 2022) (internal quotations and citations omitted). Consequently, if there is no adverseness, there is no case or controversy.
In the instant case, Defendants have not yet filed any notices of appearance. Nonetheless, the Parties have advised the Court that they are engaging in discussions to resolve this matter. Moreover, although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction.2 Indeed, President Trump’s own remarks about this matter acknowledge the unique dynamic of this litigation.3 Accordingly, it is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article III’s case or controversy requirement.
In other words, at least this judge is willing to say out loud what a total sham this whole setup is.
To deal with this, the judge has asked both “parties” to file briefs over this particular issue and set a hearing for the end of May to see what to do about all this. To call this a unique situation would be the understatement of the decade. One hopes that the courts recognize how blatantly corrupt this is, but we have to remember that if this actually continues, it would end up in front of the same court that decided when Donald Trump is president he’s effectively a king and can do whatever he wants (though, when a Democrat is president, they should have zero powers at all).
So while anyone with half a brain can recognize the absolute cynical corruption baked into this case, I have zero faith that this Supreme Court wouldn’t bless it — should the question of whether a Republican president can simply sue his own government and agree with himself to take money from the treasury ever actually reach the high court.
Filed Under: case or controversy, charles littlejohn, donald trump, irs, kathleen williams, tax returns


Comments on “Judge Just Noticed The Obvious Problem With Trump Suing His Own IRS For $10 Billion”
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When he sued, he wasn’t president, was he?
And it also wasn’t over “nothing”, was it?
The proper result would have been to resolve it before he took office (again) but that didn’t happen, did it?
This doesn’t matter, AT ALL. The IRS broke the law.
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Yes, he was. I recognize that you very, very dumb MAGA people have an awful lot of difficulty recognizing when Donald Trump was and was not President, but I assure you that on January 29th, 2026, the date this lawsuit was filed, he abso-fucking-lutely was the President
Unless you know how to magically “resolve” something over a year before it happens, I don’t know what to tell you.
I mean, it actually does matter a lot, because it gets to the actual damages here. And, “the IRS” did not break the law. A contractor working at Booz, Allen broke the law and has been properly adjudicated and punished for it.
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Weird how there was no response to this one. Huh.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is a hell of a drug isn’t it? Who cares about law, order, the constitution if it means daddy Drumpf can’t get what he wants! He’s The King after all! He has absolute executive authority to do whatever he wants!
What?! The Biden Crime Family wants to unburden working class people of their exploitive and unfair student loan debt where they have shown in great detail how people were abused and taken advantage of?
SCREEEEEEE THOSE GYAT DAYUM SATANIST CHILDREN EATING LIBRUL SCUM! SCREEEE ILLEGGGAAALLLL
/S if you really can’t tell.
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And now the proper thing to do would be to either wait until he isn’t president or settle the case for the most minimal amount possible (that will then be donated to a charity of Trump’s choice [that has no association with his family or any member of his administration]).
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Penalties need to be severe or the misbehavior will continue.
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The man who leaked Trump’s taxes was convicted and sentenced to several years in prison for leaking Trump’s taxes. I don’t see why Trump should be given $10bn in federal monies when the IRS didn’t intentionally leak his taxes and the man responsible for the leak has already been punished.
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So you agree that he should be punished for all the laws he broke before being president?
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That’s diffe(R)ent.
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There have been many MANY times the US Supreme Court has said, yes, the government broke, and lmao, you can’t do anything about it.
Why should the President be any different?
Or should I say this President given your partisan proclivity for bullshit?
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Donald Trump broke the law more.
Not a lawyer but...
It seems to me the only parties they could possibly have a case against is the guy in jail and the contractor he worked for.
Re: Nope.
Trump did not give his tax returns to some contractor. He is suing the IRS as the party that he handed his data to and that did (according to the suit) not exercise due care in protecting it.
The difference between a civil suit and a criminal one is that you are not looking for the person having committed a crime but for the contractual party that carries the responsibility for the consequences.
The consequences are actual damages. So far we are still in a plausible part of this charade.
It gets implausible once we see $10B of damages and “two” parties eager to hammer out a “settlement” that lets Trump stuff his pockets with taxpayer money that the DoJ, intended to be the people’s lawyer, will gleefully hand over.
That is the totally corrupt part of the scam. but it illustrates just one way in which the corruption of the DoJ as a tool of the president is a bad idea.
Public Citizen's amicus brief on this lawsuit
We have presented a host of reasons why the Court should not allow this travesty to proceed
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172.32.0.pdf
Well, to apply fully the absurdist Trump logic...
Well, to apply fully the absurd Trump logic, Trump the plaintiff is suing for damages. Trump the defendant has, in his role as president, “presidential immunity”, so he’s not liable for any damages. In Trump’s role as the “unitary chief executive” Trump is the IRS, so he can’t be held liable as he’s immune. Trump logic – no damages.
Re: You don't get it
Trump isn’t suing himself, he is suing the IRS. The IRS is a government institution, not Trump himself. The self-serving part comes in because the IRS is represented by the DoJ acting as its attorney in court, and the DoJ has been thoroughly corrupted by Trump to serve him rather than the People.
Now the DoJ tries to make a fishy deal on behalf of the IRS that is completely against the interests of the IRS.
If this would be real, the DoJ would face disbarment due to acting against the interests of its client, and the IRS would get to choose actual representation.
Of course the IRS is also not the most adversial party to Trump in the context of the current government structures, but the real conflict is that it is saddled with the DoJ as its thoroughly corrupted and self-interested representation.
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They get it just fine.
Did you hear a whooooshing sound?
I suspect that’s why this judge is treading carefully. If their argument goes the way it appears to be going, it’ll mean that since Trump is POTUS, he has full authority, meaning he can’t be personally held culpable for what he does while in office… which ALSO means he can’t personally sue the government for what he does while in office.
And then SCOTUS has to do some REALLY creative legwork to keep from overriding their own precedent and putting limits on POTUS to allow Trump to do whatever he wants.
It’d be really neat to see this come down to “Sue yourself for $10bil OR keep your legal indemnity — not both.”
Re: Try to keep up, dearest
The SCOTUS does no legwork whatsoever in those cases: that’s what they use the shadow docket for. They just say “Trump wins” and tell the lower courts to figure out why because this is binding precedent.
And when the lower courts one day decide to rule for a Democratic president, SCOTUS intervenes and says “you did not properly understand the precedent.”
The legwork and contortions are left as an exercise for the lower courts. SCOTUS doesn’t even bother justifying their decisions any more in order not to have to apply them equally to non-Trump administrations.
The only part that seems to be a valid controversy, while he is in office, is that the statute of limitations runs out before he’s out of office; or has already run out depending on whose theory of when the discovery of the leak happened; is valid. He should have filed when he was out of office instead of waiting for a conviction as evidence. I don’t think the court will let him be plaintiff, defendant, and prosecutor in his own case.
Whatever happened to “Nemo iudex in causa sua?” Nobody may be the judge in their own case …
We will never forget
You know what this case reminds me of? The Epstein files.
“Your name is Donald and you are suing the IRS?”
“Yes, Judge Donald, my name is Donald and I’m suing the IRS.”
“Does your lawyer Donald agree with you Donald?”
“Yes Judge Donald, I as Donald’s lawyer Donald agree with the suit.”
“In that case Donald I pass judgement in favour of your client Donald. Case dismissed and Donald will pay Donald the sum of $10 billion dollars.”
“Thank you Judge Donald.”
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But to be accurate, it would be more like:
“Your name is President Donald J. Trump and you are suing the IRS?”
“Yes, Judge President Donald J. Trump, I am suing the IRS because they’re so mean. They told me I couldn’t write off all those loans I didn’t pay, just like when the Noble people didn’t give me the prize. I know more about nobles than perhaps anyone else alive, including King Charlies, who I am very much like, like a king. They don’t want me to say that but’s true. You know it. I know it. Everyone is saying it’s true. The Iranian government knows it. They sent me the most beautiful letter. They said they desperately want to open the strait, but I said no. I’m keeping it closed because they won’t admit I’m not a pedophile. I don’t pedals at all. I’m not a bike person like some people are. I think Joe Biden likes bikes. He abused the autopen so much, maybe while riding a bike. I don’t know. But we’re building a beautiful ball room with top secret bunker spaces underneath, but I can’t tell you about that. It’s secret. There’s a nuclear command center down there and a database of the Epstein files, which, by the way, don’t exist. Complete hoax by Hillary, Obama, and Biden. I’m directing, you’ll hear about this next week, I’m directing the DOJ to indict them for the awful things they’ve said in my mind when I’m sitting on the toilet posting on Truth Social at 3 AM. The DOJ, they’re completely independent, by the way. I didn’t even have to tell them. They just investigate all these awful people by themselves. I’ve never told anyone to do anything there…”