Supreme Court’s ‘Go Ahead And Round Up All The Brown People’ Decision Is Being Challenged In Court
from the racists-and-their-SCOTUS-enablers dept
In July, a California federal court handed down what should have been considered an obvious decision: of course it violates constitutional rights to consider skin color, spoken language, “accent,” or place of employment sufficient to support a stop, much less arrest and detainment. In August, the appeals court affirmed that ruling following the government’s absolutely expected rejection of that solid decision.
Of course, the Trump administration appealed this decision as well because respecting rights meant ICE might not hit the lofty standards of 3,000 arrests per day — not if it had to come up with better reasonable suspicion and/or probable cause than “suspect looked kinda brown.”
In September, the US Supreme Court, led by Justice Brett Kavanaugh, ruled otherwise. It said — without saying much at all as it buried this in its shadow docket — that racial profiling is fine, actually. If people don’t like it, maybe they should be more white and less likely to be employed by… oh, I don’t know… roofing companies.
Kavanaugh said none of this was a problem. After all, anyone who’s actually here legally would obviously be free to go moments after “interacting” with immigration officers.
Importantly, reasonable suspicion means only that immigration officers may briefly stop the individual and inquire about immigration status. If the person is a U. S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, that individual will be free to go after the brief encounter. Only if the person is illegally in the United States may the stop lead to further immigration proceedings.
That’s simply not true, and its especially not true in a nation currently run by hateful bigots who have long since abandoned any pretext of rooting out the criminal element (what little there is of it) from the country’s immigrant population.
We’ve already covered multiple stories about US citizens being questioned, detained, and arrested by ICE officers simply because ICE officers have chosen not to believe their assertions about their citizenship and legal residence, even when presented with US-issued documentation.
One of those people Kavanaugh thinks won’t be irreparably harmed (much less sent to some foreign hellhole) by unjustified stops or detentions is Leo Venegas, an American citizen who actually has a government-mandated REAL ID. Despite being an early adopter of a form of ID the federal government claims is so “mandatory” it hasn’t actually made mandatory yet despite a decade-long string of empty threats, Garcia was attacked and arrested by ICE officers who insisted his ID was “fake.”
Video of the arrest, aired by Noticias Telemundo, showed authorities grabbing Leonardo Garcia Venegas, 25, while at a job site in Foley, Alabama, on Wednesday and bending his arms behind him. Someone off-camera can be heard yelling, “He’s a citizen.”
Garcia told Noticias Telemundo that authorities took his ID from his wallet and told him it was fake before handcuffing him.
Garcia isn’t the only US citizen or legal resident who’s been detained or arrested by federal officers who refuse to believe any assertions or documentation offered by those they’re harassing. So, Kavanaugh is dead wrong about how the law actually works when deployed by federal agents, on top of being completely wrong about the Constitution.
The Constitution says citizens should not be subjected to “papers, please” harassment unless the government can justify this imposition. The Supreme Court’s quasi-ruling says otherwise: citizens should be required to produce documentation whenever the government demands it, whether or not the government has any justifiable reason to do so. In essence, the Supreme Court has ruled that — at least for anyone falling on the wrong side of the Family Guy color chart — citizens and legal residents only have privileges that must be earned by placating government officers engaged in racial profiling in service of satisfying the ruling bigots’ desire to rid this country of non-white people.
Kavanaugh also says the proper avenue for argument or recourse is the courts, even while indicating the courts will no longer recognize enshrined rights during immigration control efforts. But then he limits it to “excessive force” claims, which does not address the claims brought in the original suit and limits further action to simply this sort of claim.
Kavanaugh also conveniently ignores the fact that the court he works for has done everything it can over the past couple of decades to make suing federal officers for rights violations all but impossible by restricting qualifying legal claims to (more or less) pretty much only person who has ever succeeded in this particular form of litigation.
But maybe this “emergency” ruling by the Supreme Court won’t stick. The only way to make sure it won’t is to challenge it, which is what Leo Venegas is doing with the assistance of the Institute for Justice. Venegas is suing the government in an Alabama federal court, challenging immigration enforcement activities that repeatedly violate basic civil rights and liberties.
There’s a good chance this will go nowhere, especially when it comes to the federal officers listed as defendants, given the Supreme Court’s unwillingness to even entertain the few appeals that happen to land on its docket. It’s a potential class action lawsuit [PDF], which Balls and Strikes notes in its coverage, which details this lawsuit’s direct attack on Kavanaugh’s horseshit, barely-there “defense” of the indefensible:
Leo is trying to sue on behalf of people who are experiencing exactly what Justice Brett Kavanaugh recently claimed people don’t experience. On September 8, in Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo, the Supreme Court lifted a lower court order which had blocked federal immigration agents in Los Angeles from stopping people just because they look Latino. The three Democratic appointees dissented, and five of the Republicans did not even try to defend the indefensible. But in a solo concurrence, Justice Brett Kavanaugh gave it his best shot, asserting that the government’s interest in enforcing immigration laws outweighs undocumented residents’ interest in evading immigration laws, and for legal residents, immigration stops are harmless.
Let’s make things perfectly clear, especially for those who either are these cowardly “conservative” justices and/or their supporters: there is no such thing as a “harmless” stop. Every stop is harmful. That’s why the government needs to have permission to stop or detain US citizens, legal residents, and (LEST WE FORGET) anyone else currently in the United States, regardless of their legal status.
Reasonable suspicion, border exceptions, warrants, exigent circumstances, etc.: these are all permission slips for the government to infringe on the enshrined rights of the people. Those rights are supposed to be considered protected by default, hence the need for government justification when routing around them. We have no such obligation to the government. Hopefully, this case moves forward far enough it will require the Supreme Court to actually address this government overreach head on, rather than just dispense with it quickly and quietly, denying litigants the adversarial process they’re supposed to be guaranteed under the US Constitution.
But until that happens, the status quo is nothing more than the ugliness we see every day: masked officers rounding up people for no other reason than they’re not white, or don’t speak English well enough, or simply do the sort of jobs most people assume will only be undertaken by people in the country illegally. And if that’s what America is going to be, it’s no longer a country worth living in or fighting for.
Filed Under: 4th amendment, 5th amendment, bigotry, brett kavanaugh, dhs, ice, kavanaugh stops, leo venegas, mass deportation, supreme court, trump administration


Comments on “Supreme Court’s ‘Go Ahead And Round Up All The Brown People’ Decision Is Being Challenged In Court”
Binding precedent
People keep saying even these shadow docket rulings establish binding precedent, but are courts required to follow the rationale laid out in Kavanaugh’s sole concurrence? Presumably the case at issue still needs to be considered on its merits, but is the court required to follow Kavanaugh’s lead here about what constitutes reasonable suspicion and such?
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That’s the thing: SCOTUS wants everyone to believe those rulings do that, but those rulings don’t do that. If they did, they’d have actual reasonings behind them. The shadow docket rulings are only “precedential” in the sense that SCOTUS is using them to let Trump win in a way that can be wholly undone when a Democrat once again holds the presidency.
Re: Re: No No
These kind of reviews have always taken place by SCOTUS, and if the judge thinks that the plaintiff or defendant are likely to win on merit, then the judge rules that way. It is an interim ruling until the matter can be heard by the full court. If the court was 6-3 liberal, I am sure you would not be complaining. But, we would be living in some dystopian environment.
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We literally have the army on the streets because of rusty footage from a propaganda outlet, dancing costumed protesters who are apparently the same thing as armed terrorists to a bunch of cosplaying meal team six racists, and a senile pants-shitting pedophilic president who doesn’t understand the difference between AI generated videos and reality. It might be at times boring and absurd, but this is definitely a dystopia.
Your definition of dystopia seems to involve people having affordable access to health care. The horror!
Re: Wrong
In most cases, reasonable suspicion is not needed.
There is a federal law on the books that enables ICE to question anyone within 100 miles of the US border. That includes international airports and all international points of entry, as well as the physical border. You don’t need a warrant, you don’t need probable cause, there are no Constitutional protections. You can be stopped and detained anytime ICE wants to. A lot of the US falls under the 100 mile rule. That law has been on the books for decades. EVEN UNDER DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS.
Bottom line, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ICE is likely to question the person. As almost all illegals are not white, it would seem silly to ignore their race. Racial profiling is not illegal in this case.
Courts cannot go against SCOTUS interim guidance, it is not optional. If it were, then there would never be a reason for partial court emergency review. These reviews are done, if the court accepts doing one, to issue guidance based on what would likely happen during a full court review. It happens all the time.
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I love how confidently you claim someone else is wrong, but you just spewed a bunch of half-remembered bullshit.
ICE isn’t CBP. The “100 air miles from the border” allowance is for searching vehicles for non-citizens. It applies to CBP and doesn’t apply to ICE agents. ICE agents aren’t allowed to arrest or detain US citizens (and they’ve been blatantly violating this recently, including claiming an intentionally difficult to fake RealID is fake). And even the 100 mile only applies to searching for non-citizens, not for searching persons. Searches of person requires probable cause.
And the CBP website says this: https://www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1253?language=en_US.
Re: Re: removing entire states from US
To the extent that there is such a (mischaracterized and uncited) law, it would violate the US Fourth Amendment. There are court-manufactured loopholes, such as being out in public or law enforcement being in a hurry, but the language of the Constitution is pretty clear.
As a matter of curiosity, is there any part of Rhode Island not within 100 miles of a coast or other international point of entry? How about Florida and Hawaii? So, if the US Fourth Amendment does not apply in those places, then are still states?
If I were a judge, I’d just keep ruling with the law because Kavanaugh’s rationale is demonstrably wrong. Play dumb and say, “since Kavanaugh says citizens will go free after a brief encounter and the encounters aren’t brief and the citizens get detained, then clearly these encounters violate even the loosest standard that Kavanaugh has outlined.” Make Kavanaugh say that the prolonged abduction of US citizens is A-OK.
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You literally cannot challenge a SCOTUS ruling in court.
Certainly not until there’s a different SCOTUS in charge.
You’re retarded.
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Nah, you’re an idiot.
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You’re confused. You can’t challenge a SCOTUS ruling on a particular case. You can, however, appeal to SCOTUS to rule on a case with similar or even the same circumstances. And they are able to slap you down and say the precedent has been set or they can change their minds, however unlikely the latter is. And if they did overturn their own precedent, the earlier case could theoretically be appealed based on new precedent.
But your perspective doesn’t matter. If SCOTUS ruled in a way you didn’t like, you’d call them activist judges.
This mess we’re in can be solved fairly simply by implementing two policies-
ABORT THE SUPREME COURT
and
DEFUND THE POLITICIANS
Sadly, we will do neither one.
Hypocrisy is a national pastime FAR more popular than any sport.
We have the terminology wrong. These people are INjustices, and have been for quite some time.
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Wrong
There is a federal law on the books that enables ICE to question anyone within 100 miles of the US border. That includes international airports and all international points of entry, as well as the physical border. You don’t need a warrant, you don’t need probable cause, there are no Constitutional protections. You can be stopped and detained anytime ICE wants to. A lot of the US falls under the 100 mile rule. That law has been on the books for decades. EVEN UNDER DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS.
It is a shame that TechDirt doesn’t concentrate on Tech stuff anymore, they are just throwing out stuff you would hear on The View.
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I already responded above, but you’re the one who is wrong. You just throw out stuff you heard on Fox News or OAN or trueamericanpatriot.ru. Offering this accusation-confession when a simple google search proves you wrong is quite amusing.