OK State Superintendent Ryan Walters Wants Even More Bibles, Prayers For The Dear Leader
from the holy-shit dept
Whatever your politics, there can be no arguing that the election of Donald Trump once more to the highest office in the land has served as a permission slip for some of the worst people in the country to behave badly. We’re already seeing this in all sorts of ways, from incel fuckwits telling women that it’s “Your body, my choice, forever“, to obviously racist and antisemetic public displays, and so on. Note that I am not laying these occurrences squarely at the feet of Donald Trump as though he specifically ordered that any of this occur, but it is a simple, inconvenient fact that these assholes pulling this crap are his fans and voters. And until the man specifically decries these horrible things, he tacitly endorses them.
The same would be true of Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters’ actions. We last discussed Walters over his plans to use taxpayer money to buy 55,000 bibles for the state’s public schools. Notably, the initial ask included a very specific set of specs for these bibles, with which essentially only Trump’s perverse God Bless The U.S.A. Bible complied. After a bipartisan backlash, which Walters of course blamed on “leftists,” the spec list was changed so that more bibles would fit the bill. But if you thought that this signaled that Walters would stop treating Trump’s boots like a lollipop, you were wrong.
The most recent news is that Walters has announced that 500 bibles have already been purchased for public schools, specifically for AP courses on government. This comes with language that attempts to couch the purchase as being for historical purposes, which is absolutely absurd.
In a news release, Walters said the Bibles would be used in Advanced Placement government classrooms across the state. He said the move represented “the first in the nation Bible purchase explicitly for use in schools as an academic and literary resource,” and described the purchase as “the first step toward providing Bibles for every classroom in the state.”
“We are focused on ensuring we get Bibles available in every classroom in our state as quickly as we can,” Walters said in a news release.
Notably absent from the announcement was any indication of how many copies of other religious texts had been purchased for schools as well. No mention of any purchases of the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Torah, the Talmud, the Vedas, the Adi Granth, the Avesta, nor even the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And that’s sort of a big problem when it comes to what Walters is attempting here, given the collision course he is currently on with the First Amendment. The government is to take no stance on matters of religion and forcing exactly one very specific religious text into classrooms is as naked a violation of the First Amendment as I can recall.
And Walters can attempt to portray this as necessary in order to teach the foundational history of America, but that is plainly bullshit. One does not need the full copy of a religious text, to which not all founding fathers subscribed mind you, in order to learn about the importance of religion to the history of the country. You can find evidence of its importance in the same fucking First Amendment that Walters is currently attempting to violate. That amendment’s inspiration, Jefferson’s Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, was specifically designed to uncouple his state’s government from the Church of England, with a primary aim to protect other religions in the state, such as Catholicism and those of Jewish faith. Hell, at least some number of the founding fathers weren’t Christian at all, but rather Deists. So where the hell are the Deist texts in Oklahoma classrooms? You know, for historical purposes and such?
Conversations on the historical nature of religion in America are perfectly valid and fun, frankly, but they would also be entirely wasted calories when it comes to Walters. He’s not interested in any of this. And if you think he is, that is belied by his other demand of the public schools under his care.
State Superintendent Ryan Walters sent superintendents an email Thursday afternoon mandating districts show students a video of him announcing the new Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism and inviting students into a prayer for President-elect Donald Trump, among other topics.
In the video, Walters says the “radical left” is attacking religious liberty in schools, patriotism is being “mocked,” and there is “a hatred for this country pushed by woke teachers’ unions.”
He invites the students to pray with him, clarifying they don’t have to join in.
“I pray for our leaders to make the right decisions,” Walters said. “I pray in particular for President Donald Trump and his team as they continue to bring about change to the country.”
Nothing like a little newspeak mixed in with a healthy dose of hypocrisy, apparently. The name of his manufactured office is negated by his own actions. This isn’t practicing religious liberty; that’s what Jefferson did. This is the state government favoring one specific religious text as the expense of every other religious text. That’s the opposite of religious freedom.
And to demand, nay, mandate what is essentially the indoctrination of school-aged children into the political opinions of one man, from one party, with not a care in the world for the 32% of voters who didn’t vote for Walters’ preferred candidate or party, is bonkers. And before we get comments about how “Wah, the left has been indoctrinating kids in schools for years,” please show me where a member of the left mandated the viewing of a video by school children that specifically negatively portrays the other political side as hating the country, or attacking religious liberty. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
All the worse is subjecting these same children to a call for prayer for a man who is quite plainly as un-Christian a person as we’ve ever had serve in the Oval Office. This is pure boot-licking behavior from a person whom everyone agrees is merely vying of a position in Trump’s government.
Republican President-elect Donald Trump is quickly filling out his incoming Cabinet, and Walters’ name has been mentioned by some national news outlets as a potential pick for education secretary or adviser.
Exactly correct. Walters is using both the real religious beliefs of those within his state and freaking children in order to advance his own political career.
Somehow, it strains the mind to imagine Christ approving of any of this. Regardless of that, all of this should be struck down as violating the Constitution.
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Comments on “OK State Superintendent Ryan Walters Wants Even More Bibles, Prayers For The Dear Leader”
In the beginning, Trump created the Hell and the MAGA.
And it program was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the ignorant.
And Trump said, let there be stupidity: and there was stupidity.
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On the eighth day, Trump said I need idiots and evil sycophants to make the government dysfunctional and the cabinet candidate announcements began.
Beware the coming of the ninth day.
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That seventh day is so much wishful thinking. Can you imagine him break from tweeting nonsense for even one day?
It’s like you can’t take anything you read for granted these days.
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It really is. If only he’d shut his trap, but he just can’t seem to be able to do that
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No way. He tweeted it all on the first day, and played golf for the other six days.
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'To teach the importance of the first amendment we must violate it'
The only place bibles have in a school is a comparative religions class, right alongside a slew of other religious texts and a discussion about how religion in general has influenced history.
That said I find it strange that he wants bibles in schools so badly, I thought republicans were all for getting porn out of schools…
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Porn? Why, it’s only porn if they aren’t the one’s watching it.
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This whole election cycle and its maga violence is porn to these sick cult members.
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How many other religions are going to send COPIES of their Own bibles. I would love to see the Jewish version all 3 books, appear.
Then ask, hindu, Muslim, Erdu and Many more.
A couple things that were left out of the article...
1) How were those 500 bibles paid for? Articles say that they don’t appear on the budget.
2) The video? A number of school districts out-and-out said “Hell no, we’re not showing your propaganda, and you can’t make us!” … well, they said it in lawyerese, but even so.
Constitution??? What Constitution? The Supreme Court has blessed a convicted felon to ignore the law, and he’s appointing a bundle of idiots, losers, and dumbshits to dismantle the government (the government that used to be by, for, and of the people). Further, he’s also promised to pardon any of his followers who break the law, thereby eliminating the so-called “rule of law.” That creates an environment where just about anyone else can ignore the law…as long as they hold a government position.
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It’s the age-old problem of how to maintain a government by, for and of the people, when a significant portion of the population is perfectly happy to trade it for an autocracy if it means they get to take less responsibility.
We’re gonna have enough discarded bibles to heat up homes for years.
This bible that he wants so badly to put in schools. Has he actually read and understood it? Have his supporters actually read and understood it?
Because even the version he’s insisting get added… the first big chunk of it is there precisely because it’s the texts that first century Jews who were persecuting Christians would have been reading and using to defend their actions. You read it to understand how much the religious elite of the time had perverted and misunderstood the religious lore that had been passed down to them.
The second section is about Jesus and his direct disciples and their teachings. It requires the first section because it’s full of references to bits of the first section that Jesus and his disciples claimed had been misinterpreted and misused by the Jewish elite.
If they’re going to use this for an AP Government class, it should be to outline how NOT to govern.
The mistakes of the Old Testament were later repeated in the actions of the post-Constantine Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Inquisition, Colonization, and many, many other places in history.
Sure, the text could be useful in explaining the thought processes of founding fathers who were Anglican, IF you include a bunch of other context around assumptions and values of the time that are significantly different than in today’s American Evangelical Church, but as others have mentioned… unless you’re including other formative texts (and what about indigenous traditions and oral histories?) that were common at the time, it’s going to provide a very warped context to discuss government in, leaving OK AP students at a severe disadvantage.
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Ah, but Trump hasn’t actually read the bible. I remember a broadcast from one of those so-called “leftest news media corporations” where he was asked which Bible version resonated with him, or something along this lines. Instead of answering the question, he said it was a “personal thing”. When pressed he, of course, just reiterated that it was a “personal thing” and didn’t actually quote or cite anything.
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I still am surprised at how many people think that they “know the bible” when they can’t even parse Shakespeare correctly (written contemporaneously with the bible version they think they “know”). And that’s just an English translation of the original 1st century Greek and Hebrew (and Aramaic) that the actual texts were written in.
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I am afraid that the Holy Scriptures of Donald Trump were not translated from Hebrew from BC, Aramaic from millennia before and Greek from somewhat before (Septuagint) and after (Gospels etc) but rather from German from the first half of the twentieth century.
Not that “it’s the others’ fault, round them up and kill them” message cannot be found throughout the times (and somehow managed to become the synopsis of even the Gospels as interpreted by the very religious). But the playbook of Trump and the tropes he relies on are more a rehash of the modern version.
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Trump’s policies seem more based on Mein Kampf than the Bible, unfortunately.
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They’ve very selective about which parts they read and “understand”.
Re: 'Who has time to read a book, especially one that size?!'
Has he actually read and understood it? Have his supporters actually read and understood it?
Ah, I see the problem. No, not they have not, despite how many of them would proudly and loudly proclaim that it is nothing less than The Word Of God.
Or as I’ve seen it put, ‘Many christians treat the bible as a EULA. They don’t actually read it, they just scroll to the bottom and click ‘I Agree’.’
Why, he doesn’t sound OK at all!
The Louisiana Purchase was a mistake.
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The residents of Louisiana could read they’d be very upset with you.
“So where the hell are the Deist texts in Oklahoma classrooms? You know, for historical purposes and such?”
Thinking on it, this atheist for one would actually be alright with schools using copies of the Jefferson Bible.
Matthew 23
Jesus’ sternest rebukes where for those that heavily burdened others by forcing religion on them, while being faithless and performative themselves.
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I was thinking more about Matthew 6:1-8, about praying privately rather than performatively, but Matthew 23 works, too.
Those poor Oklahoma kids, having to put up with Elizabethan language and Jacobian diction! Why hasn’t anybody suggested the LOLCat’s translation instead?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCat_Bible_Translation_Project
https://web.archive.org/web/20190327161227/http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
In words stolen from Alfrid Lickspittle in The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies: “Will no one think of the children?”
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Since that movie was released in 2014, isn’t it more likely that Alfrid Lickspittle was gifted that sentiment by Helen Lovejoy?
Leave Christ out of this
Come off it. Christ was all “I have come to fulfill the law and scripture, not abolish it”, but St Paul saw more potential and rode out the message like Republicans ride the First Amendment. “Only when it’s convenient for me” is the linchpin of Christianity and its appeal and has been for millennia.
Sure, but if you take a look at the actual biblical laws, you know the stuff that no iotta is going to be changed, you’ll find that those guys are taking quite more liberties with that than even with the Constitution.
Not seeing the beam in your own eye is a feature, not a bug.
Apparently, Trump uses a brand of shoe polish that tastes absolutely delicious.
Only spend government funds on genuine Trump bibles!
Because that wood be the most bestest use of gubermint money.
What is he going to do when other organizations start providing identical books to all the schools. Except these books will have other “bibles” in them instead, such as the quran, etc.
And when teachers start critically teaching from the bible, especially the part where abortions are required, etc.
Trump photo op idea …
He could go to Oklahoma and throw bibles at them, sorta like when they shoot t-shirts at the audience at sporting events.
once a court rules the bible purchases unconstitutional walters should be made to repay the state out of his own pocket