Louisiana Becomes The Third State To Pass A Law Creating A No-Go Zone Around Cops

from the special-rights-just-for-cops dept

“All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” I’m sure you’ll recall specifically which type of animal on George Orwell’s Animal Farm made that proclamation.

In other words, we’re back to Orwellian lawmaking in this country. And not the usual kind. The 9/11 attacks in 2001 led to one sort of Orwellian lawmaking. That was dialed back a bit following the Snowden leaks, but as we’re now more than a decade out from that watershed, there’s been a bit of a return to business as usual. You need look no further than the latest Section 702 surveillance renewal for evidence of that.

This form of Orwellian lawmaking is a bit more novel. As phones became something everyone carried and those phones started containing cameras, efforts were made to prevent people from filming cops. But as pretty much every appellate circuit has held, filming cops is protected by the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has yet to weigh in, but it really doesn’t need to as long as the circuits remained unified in this view.

Cop accountability became a hot button topic (again!) following the murder of Minneapolis resident George Floyd by police officer Derek Chauvin. With protests sweeping the nation, some efforts were made to reform or rebuild law enforcement entities. But while the outrage remains, there’s been no unified front across the nation for a few years now, and legislators are getting back to passing laws constituents (as least those not employed by cop shops) aren’t really asking for.

Arizona did it first. Legislators dropped the pro-police halo down to eight feet before the bill was finally signed into law. But it didn’t matter. It has already been permanently enjoined by a federal court because it’s (you guessed it) unconstitutional.

Florida was the next to pass a law preventing people from coming within 25 feet of police officers. Governor Ron DeSantis pretended it was about giving “first responders” space to do their jobs. But only certain “first responders” are asking for laws like these. EMTs and firefighters haven’t been begging for more space to do their work. It’s only cops who seem concerned when people (and their cameras) get too close. That law takes effect at the beginning of next year, at which point it will be met with multiple lawsuits asking courts to prevent it from being enforced.

Now, it’s Louisiana’s turn, as Politico (via the Associated Press) reports:

A new Louisiana law will make it a crime to knowingly approach within 25 feet of a police officer while they are “engaged in law enforcement duties” and after the officer has ordered the person to stay back.

[…]

“This is part of our continued pledge to address public safety in this state,” [Governor Jeff] Landry, who has a law enforcement background, said during the bill signing.

Whatever. This has nothing to do with “public safety” and everything to do with limiting accountability. Louisiana has plenty of problematic law enforcement agencies that need a lot more oversight, but instead of that, state residents are getting hit with further restrictions on their rights. And it’s also worth noting (as the AP does) that legislators tried to pass this under the former governor (a Democrat), but were met with a veto.

At least this law is a bit more intellectually honest about its intentions. There’s no wording in there to help pretend this about protecting all first responders. Instead, this pro-cop, anti-citizen halo is limited to “peace officers.”

Anyone approaching closer than 25 feet after being “ordered […] to stop approaching or retreat” can be arrested and hit with a $500 fine or up to 60 days in jail. Nothing in the law makes it any less likely to be found as unconstitutional as the one passed in Arizona but at least this provides for an affirmative defense if the accused person can demonstrate no order was given to stop or retreat.

Given that other crimes like obstruction and assault are still on the books, the only reason this law exists is to make it more difficult to film police activity. That is made exceedingly clear by the supporters and writers of the bill, who are now saying stupid things in public to defend this bit of legislative bootlicking.

“This is a bill that’s enacting all across America that gives our police officers a peace of mind and a safe distance to do their job,” Republican state Rep. Bryan Fontenot, who crafted the legislation, said at a signing ceremony Tuesday.

I’m not sure how three states out of 50 is “all across America,” but a man’s gotta dream, I guess. This “bill that’s enacting” only applies to Louisiana. And even in the cop-friendly Fifth Circuit, it’s unlikely to remain in “enacted” status for very long. And it’s actually just two states: Arizona’s law (at only 8 feet!) has already been permanently enjoined.

This isn’t the only stupid stuff said by Rep. Fontenot in defense of his unconstitutional bill:

“At 25 feet, that person can’t spit in my face when I’m making an arrest,” Fontenot said while presenting his bill in a committee earlier this year. “The chances of him hitting me in the back of the head with a beer bottle at 25 feet — it sure is a lot more difficult than if he’s sitting right here.”

LOL. This isn’t about any of these things. It’s about making it more difficult to film cops — the sort of thing that often undercuts cop narratives about how things went down. Going back to the murder of George Floyd, the official narrative — until undone by a bystander’s recording — was that officers arrested someone who just happened to die. And, as the original Minneapolis PD press release took care to point out, the officers turned out OK following this murder.

Man Dies After Medical Incident During Police Interaction

May 25, 2020 (MINNEAPOLIS) On Monday evening, shortly after 8:00 pm, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department responded to the 3700 block of Chicago Avenue South on a report of a forgery in progress. Officers were advised that the suspect was sitting on top of a blue car and appeared to be under the influence.

Two officers arrived and located the suspect, a male believed to be in his 40s, in his car. He was ordered to step from his car. After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Officers called for an ambulance. He was transported to Hennepin County Medical Center by ambulance where he died a short time later.

[…]

No officers were injured in the incident.

That’s why bills like these are being written. A citizen’s recording undermined the official narrative. The only thing it verified is that the MPD officers escaped the murder scene without injury.

Fortunately, most of these stupid bills aren’t being signed into law. And one-third of those enacted have already been permanently blocked by a federal court. This is just more police protectionism, which cops don’t need because they already have more “rights” than the people they serve. Hopefully, this law will meet the same fate Arizona’s law did : an enactment, a lawsuit, and a permanent injunction.

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Upstream (profile) says:

Have cameras done any good?

When phone cameras came into widespread use, many of us thought they would bring an increased level of accountability to law enforcement in this country. It didn’t seem to happen.

Many of us thought the same thing when body-worn cameras started to be used by many law enforcement agencies. We were mostly disappointed then, too.

Fixed surveillance cameras almost everywhere these days? Same, same.

I think this is a good example of the idea that you cannot generally solve a human-based problem with a technological solution.

Once an authoritarian government achieves the level of power and control that ours clearly has, there may not be a solution until that government somehow comes to an end. History has shown that large, powerful, authoritarian governments coming to an end, by whatever means, is not pretty.

🙁

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: If cameras didn't work then cops wouldn't care so much about people filming them

Cameras wielded by the public have done less than they should have thanks to a higher-than-zero number of courts and judges that consider pesky things like ‘the evidence clearly shows that the cop is lying’ not that big of a deal, however they have done far more than cops want them to, as evidenced by how badly they and their political supporters want to prevent people from filming them.

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Koby (profile) says:

Re:

Many of us thought the same thing when body-worn cameras started to be used by many law enforcement agencies. We were mostly disappointed then, too.

The cameras vindicated a lot of cops, while also demonstrating the outrageously poor behavior of suspects. There are now numerous video channels dedicated to showing body camera footage of the worst crooks attempting to abuse the police. This footage has vastly outpaced the number of incidents where police behaved poorly, thereby causing the police to gain new levels of respect and admiration from the general public.

Stand back, let the cops do their job, and use your zoom lens.

MrWilson (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Except “Confidence in the quality of law enforcement training has dropped among surveyed Americans following Tyre Nichols’ fatal beating, according to a new poll conducted by The Washington Post and ABC News, consistent with a national trend of declining trust in police Gallup has been tracking for years.

There are now numerous video channels dedicated to showing body camera footage of the worst crooks attempting to abuse the police. This footage has vastly outpaced the number of incidents where police behaved poorly,

This is survivorship bias. Who controls the release of the footage? Typically the law enforcement agencies themselves. Why wouldn’t they release a bunch of footage that makes them look good? We already know they fight tooth and nail to stop footage that makes them look bad from getting out. It often takes lawsuits and subpoenas and even then sometimes “the camera seemed to malfunction…”

You haven’t seen all the footage so trusting positive light footage to be an accurate portrayal of reality is delusional.

thereby causing the police to gain new levels of respect and admiration from the general public.

Maybe among bootlickers. Certainly not among the general public, including those who respond to polls.

Stand back, let the cops do their job, and use your zoom lens.

Not as easy to capture audio from a distance. Audio recordings have become very valuable to counter police lies in court and the media.

mechtheist (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Wow, this is monumentally obtuse. I wonder if the cops never seem to forget to turn the camera on when they’re the ones getting abused? I wonder how often the cameras don’t work then? Or the footage gets lost? And of course they make it just as easy to get a hold of the footage that makes them look bad as when a citizens is behaving badly, right? What a putz.

astrochicken says:

Re: Perspective

That depends on your perspective. If you thought body cameras would solve all the problems with police corruption, you got played and by now you’re disappointed. Even if you can get access to the cops’ data, oversight is still not the same as accountability.

But if you were wondering about public opinion, then I think we all know that people are more aware. George Floyd, BLM, all of that exposure has created an environment where a real percent of the general population knows (because we’ve seen it) that cops frequently do horrible things and get away with it. That awareness is a massive change from twenty years ago. In the distant past, you’d hear a story but assume the storyteller was exaggerating or lying, and you’d keep on Backing the Blue. These days, they show you the video. It’s a lot harder to tell yourself that cops are wonderful people when you just watched them shoot a dog or tase an old man.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Considering the purpose of the law

it would be quite easy to prove no order was given, however vanishingly small the chance. Simply turn on the camera from some distance away and approach the officer with camera and mic running. If the officer for some unknown reason doesn’t give you an order to step back, yet still attests you, then you have the proof you need to be declared innocent of violating that law. But I think the chances of that happening can be best phrased as “slim to none.”

astrochicken says:

Turner

Turner v Driver is precedent in the 5th circuit, including Louisiana, and it states that the right to reasonably record cops is clearly established.

We don’t even need to get to SCOTUS for this. The cops are stuck trying to argue that a magic number of feet is a reasonable restriction, but there’s simply no good justification they can provide. They’ll pound the table and hope for the best.

Probably they’ll lose, but stranger things have happened.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: 'Yes the dog tried to bite your face off but how was it to know better? Therefore QI applies.'

I mean, you’re not wrong, and to the extent I might disagree it’s that I would feel much safer around a dangerous or outright rabid animal than I would a cop, if only because the dangerous/rabid animal lacks the capability for deliberate cruelty and/or a legal system that will bend over backwards to excuse and cover for anything it might do.

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