New York Court Says Fox, Rudy Giuliani Can’t Escape Defamation Lawsuit Over BS Stolen Election Claims
from the way-to-fuck-up,-fuckups dept
Donald Trump and his supporters are unable to process facts. That inability led to many of them engaging in questionable election-related lawsuits and extremely questionable election-related public statements. Alleging a “stolen” election, Trump and his backers claimed, without any supporting evidence, voting machines/software made by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic conspired to rob the lame duck of a second term in office.
Windbags of all varieties not only opined about widespread election fraud, they made statements of fact that apparently contained no facts. While Trump and his fanbase sued states and a laundry list of people they felt had wronged them, these companies decided to start suing back.
So far, the entities with actual facts on their side appear to be winning. Dominion Voting Systems has been granted permission to continue its lawsuit against Fox News for its participation in delivering false claims about the company. Now, it’s Smartmatic’s turn. A New York appeals court has ruled [PDF] Fox can’t escape this defamation lawsuit. (via Volokh Conspiracy)
The decision is short (four pages!) but pretty damn sweet. It denies the anti-SLAPP motion and other motions to dismiss filed by the defendants (which include Fox News, Fox News personalities Jeanine Pirro, Lou Dobbs, and Maria Bartiromo, and frequent Fox News guests Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell). As the court points out, Smartmatic has alleged enough to sustain the lawsuit’s continuance.
Supreme Court [this refers to the lower level trial court] correctly declined to dismiss the defamation claims asserted against Fox News, Dobbs, Bartiromo, and Giuliani. Under New York’s Anti-SLAPP statute (Civil Rights Law §§ 76-a[1][a], [2]), to withstand dismissal under CPLR 3211(g)(1), the claims pleaded must have “a substantial basis in law,” which requires “such relevant proof as a reasonable mind may accept as adequate to support a conclusion or ultimate fact” (Golby v N & P Engrs. & Land Surveyor, PLLC, 185 AD3d 792, 793-794 [2d Dept 2020]). The meticulously detailed complaint satisfied the requirements of CPLR 3211(g)(1).
More specifically, the court says the complaint filed by Smartmatic contains “significant allegations” the multiple defendants “made defamatory statements” about the company’s supposed involvement in the rigging of the 2020 election. It also says the Fox News “reporters” did more than report on defamatory statements made by Trump supporters. They also advanced these views by granting them credence and offering supporting statements of their own — statements that appear to have recklessly disregarded the truth.
In fact, according to the allegations in the complaint, Fox News, Dobbs, and Bartiromo stated that Smartmatic’s election technology and software were widely used in the 2020 election and in Dominion machines to switch votes, when they actually knew, or easily could have known had they not purposefully avoided publicly available knowledge, that in 2020, the Smartmatic technology was used only in Los Angeles County and that the vote switching claims otherwise had no support… Based on the same \ reasoning, the claims against Pirro, which are based on similar allegations of defamatory statements made with actual malice, must be reinstated.
Yep. They screwed up. And someone who thought he might have time to head home and wipe the hair dye-tainted flop sweat from his brow is now back in the (liable/libel) mix, thanks to the New York appellate court.
However, Supreme Court erred in dismissing the third and fifth causes of action as against defendant Giuliani, and we reinstate those claims.
It is to LOL. The guy who managed to give opportunistic, bottom-feeding lawyers a bad name is still potentially on the hook for millions in defamation.
The only party to be granted an exit is Fox Corporation itself. Smartmatic’s lawsuit — as “meticulously detailed” as it is — doesn’t have enough in it to show Fox Corp. itself engaged in defamation. The eminently sanctionable Sidney Powell is also allowed to walk away from this lawsuit. But that’s only because she chose to spend most of her time (allegedly) defaming Dominion Voting Systems. She’s still a viable defendant in that company’s lawsuits.
These defendants may have cast their lot with Trump, but the loyalty only goes one way. While Trump no doubt benefited from their agitating on his behalf, these defendants are on their own when it comes to shelling out damages should the case be resolved in Smartmatic’s favor. That’s the thing about grifting. It’s a team effort until there are consequences to be suffered. Then everyone is on their own, ignored by former compatriots who are putting as much distance between them and the resulting damage as possible.
Companies: fox news, smartmatic


Comments on “New York Court Says Fox, Rudy Giuliani Can’t Escape Defamation Lawsuit Over BS Stolen Election Claims”
Finally some good news! Looks like it may be popcorn time. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of sleazeballs.
Bad summary
The supporters unable to process facts and the supporters filing performance lawsuits for the purpose of retaining said fact-averse supporters are different people.
Which is exactly the reason that the defamation lawsuits are going anywhere: stupidity is not actionable, malice is.
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Actual malice, to be specific, in the context of defamation. That’s probably what you meant, but “actual malice” is a legal term with a specific meaning, so generally you can’t drop a word and expect the result to be close enough.
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I don’t know why you thought I was employing “malice” as a legal term. It’s not like “stupidity” is a legal term, last I looked.
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If you comment on a legal term which is central to whether someone has been defamed, then you should realise that words matter, and be quiet if you don’t know what they mean in the precise context you are commenting on.
‘Stupidity’ isn’t actionable, no. But wilful negligence, or wilful ignorance of widely proved and accepted facts (like Joe Biden winning the election), certainly is if it ends up hurting a company or human beings.
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Except that I did not comment on any such term. Sometimes it is ok to look up a word in a conversational dictionary rather than a law dictionary in the course of a conversation.
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“I did not comment on any such term”
You just flat out misinformed other readers by saying ‘malice is actionable’. It’s been explained to you by two separate people why.
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Traditional malice is called “common-law malice” and it does come into play sometimes but is separate from “actual malice.”
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In fact, since the judge(s) has just decided that Smartmatic isn’t a limited public figure or a public figure at all for the purposes of a defamation suit, then all they have to prove is negligence or lies. No malice needs to be proved at all.
They’re going to win.
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Re: Elite thuggery
Same elite thuggery that persecuted Assange. This is the kind of kangroo court behavior that existed under Stalin. The persecution of Trump by jurors who practice witchcraft (Emily Kohrs) and just think it would be “neat” to indict someone because it serves their political biases.
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…hallucinated nobody mentally competent, ever.
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NY courts are unable to process facts.
Letitia James is chasing after him on a Civil case where there isn’t even any demonstrated damages and the state arguably doesn’t have standing. (after the criminal case was dropped)
You’re watching “equal under the law” get suspended in real time, folks.
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If you give the money back after robbing a bank, is it no longer considered a crime?
Re: Re: If you give the money back after robbing a bank, is it no longer considered a crime?
According to Trump, you probably don’t even have to give the money back.
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I’m sorry but, when was the law ever equally enforced?
– Anywhere –
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I contest that characterization but even if true that’s no reason not expect it to be.
Past evil is not an excuse for continuing evil.
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“Past evil is not an excuse for continuing evil.”
Agreed.
Relevance?
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Stay mad broski.
All together now – fuck your feelings!
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This is equal under the law. I’m not getting taken down by the NY AG because I’ve never committed major crimes in NY. Weird how that equality works…
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So if someone’s charged with a crime they must be guilty?
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You got equal justice by not violating the law … interesting concept there.
I have free speech by not saying anything?
Hmmm, I have freedom of religion by not having any religion.
I have a right to bare arms by not having any arms.
Note, usually when comparing things they are at least similar.
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…said nobody not on hallucinogens, ever.
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Ya dumb fuck!
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Wanna open up the libel laws more, big mouth?
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Trump had four years and a presidency to do it, and even he accomplished fuck all on that claim. I highly doubt Matthew “I Swear I’m Not an Elon Fan” “Elon Fan” Bennett is going to make any progress on that front.
REALLY???
“Fox Corporation itself. Smartmatic’s lawsuit — as “meticulously detailed” as it is — doesn’t have enough in it to show Fox Corp. itself engaged in defamation.”
Please tell me that a person reading a prompter ISNT responsible for WHAT THEY are being TOLD TO SAY.
Who understands, that as a Spokesperson, you READ it you speak it, and WALK AWAY.
WHAT channel lets persons, STATE, Personal opinions??
Will FOX let ANYONE join their Programming to State Any opinion THEY WANT???
NOOOOOOOOO!!!
NOW can we take this along line and get the other 3-4 companies and get to Murdoch?
NO!
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“The Corruption at Fox News Is Worse Than You Assumed”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/02/the-corruption-at-fox-news-is-worse-than-you-assumed/
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Imagine using MotherJones to refute anything.
Jesus Christ.
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Care to share?
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Forget it, Nonny, it’s Masochism Boy. He dun like MJ because it’s not a right wing rag, end of.
David Corn is a well-respected reporter, and that report is solid.
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And the funny thing is, all the facts and statements from the Fox-hosts that are mentioned in the article was lifted from the court case’s discovery.
He’s just denying factual reality once again, it’s an established pattern for this particular half-wit by now so just flag all his posts and move on.
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It’s the opinion hosts that are in hot water. Most of the real reporters just reported the allegations without adding their personal opinion/approval. And in this case the court decided that Fox wasn’t responsible for the hosts’ opinions. But it looks like they’re definitely in jeopardy in the Dominion case.
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but it wasnt just the hosts.
It was the anchors.
Those Paid to sit there and talk to the hosts. Or even talk to themselves.
News isnt supposed to be Opinion. Maybe the weather. but not the news.
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Donald Trump and his supporters are unable to process facts
Must be nice feeling superior like that, however wrong you may be.
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It’s a slightly hyperbolic claim, but it’s objectively not untrue. There are hundreds of videos online showing Trump supporters making factual claims that are complete nonsense, either from ignorance, gullibility, partisan malice, or a combination of all. You’re damn right I feel superior to those particular people.
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More than just facts.
Reality as well.
And I certainly feel more fearful for my life than ever before rather than superior, ever since Jan 6. And even earlier.
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You would speak from a wealth of experience.
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Must be nice feeling superior like that
It is, frankly. Who would’ve thought that all we needed to do to feel this superior was just to accept what we were seeing with our own eyes.
You really should feel pathetic. Because you are.
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Okay keyboard toughmouth.
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No one is as pathetic as the POS who married Mikey.
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See what they do in response to “John Smith.”
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