Recent Boat Strike Sure Looks Like A War Crime

from the murdering-people-and-daring-the-system-to-stop-it dept

Now that congressional members on both sides of the aisle have decided it might be worth taking a look at the Defense Department’s “murder people in boats” program, we’re finally learning more than the Trump administration has been willing to share about these extrajudicial killings.

The administration’s lawyers have cobbled together justifications for these actions — OLC (Office of Legal Counsel) memos that rely heavily on claims that trafficking drugs (whether or not those drugs ever end up in the United States) is the same thing as engaging in a conventional war against the US government and its citizens.

All that’s really happening is this: the US military is sinking boats in international waters it claims are loaded with drugs. That alone would be horrific enough, especially since drug interdiction processes have historically always involved the seizure of alleged drug boats and their occupants, not justified-after-the-fact drone strikes.

Most legal experts believe these actions are illegal. No court has ruled otherwise, which means Trump will keep doing them until (and, most likely, after) they’ve been found to be illegal.

One recent boat strike has not only undercut the Trump administration’s justifications for these attacks, but has exposed the ruling party as bloodthirsty thugs willing to cross the line into war crimes just because it can.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the U.S. military on Sept. 2 to kill all 11 people on a suspected drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean Sea because they were on an internal list of narco-terrorists who U.S. intelligence and military officials determined could be lethally targeted, the commander overseeing the operation told lawmakers in briefings this past week, according to two U.S. officials and one person familiar with the congressional briefings.

[…]

The detail that the 11 people on the boat were on an internal U.S. military target list has not previously been made public. It adds another dimension to the Sept. 2 operation that has been mired in controversy over the military’s decision to launch a second strike after the first left two survivors in the water.

It’s that last sentence that’s raising an issue here even Republican representatives are having difficulty defending. The recording of the September boat strike (which has yet to be released to the public) shows two survivors of the first strike clinging to the boat wreckage and waving their arms in hopes of being rescued.

The administration has made a couple of claims about what’s shown in this recording. First, it claims the survivors were waving to their compatriots, hoping to be rescued along with whatever drugs had survived the first strike. It also insists this “waving” is indicative of drug traffickers who wish to remain “in the fight.” In other words, the government is insisting any boat strike survivors who refuse to immediately die are only interested in delivering their drug payload, rather than simply being the byproduct of violent acts: the people who somehow manage to live through a government attack designed to kill them.

For nearly an hour, DoD personnel — including Admiral Bradley — discussed what to do with these impertinent “traffickers” who had somehow survived the initial strike. According to Bradley, he ordered a second strike. When that failed to sink the wreckage the survivors were clinging to, he ordered two more strikes, ceasing his attack only after the boat was sunk and both survivors were definitively dead.

The head of the Defense Department — Pete Hegseth — continues to claim he neither ordered the additional strikes, nor had any knowledge there had been survivors of the first strike. This simply cannot be true given his position and access to boat strike footage. Furthermore, both the administration and Hegseth himself released truncated recordings of this boat strike while bragging about their willingness to engage in extrajudicial killings in international waters.

There’s no reason to believe this boat strike program is legal. Pretty much everyone outside of the administration and Trump’s MAGA gravitational pull have stated as much. The administration itself is still struggling to generate legal rationale for these strikes. What it has produced so far is just as incoherent as its defense of this “double tap” attack that targeted shipwreck survivors, including its absurd claim that the less threatening these alleged traffickers appear to be, the more the administration is justified in killing them and removed the obligation for Trump to approach Congress to ask permission to continue the extrajudicial killings.

But there’s nothing that justifies the actions witnessed here:

It is considered a war crime to kill shipwrecked people, which the Pentagon’s law of war manual defines as people “in need of assistance and care” who “must refrain from any hostile act.” Although most Republicans have signaled support for President Donald Trump’s broader military campaign in the Caribbean, the secondary strike on September 2 has drawn bipartisan scrutiny — including, most consequentially, a vow from the Senate Armed Services Committee to conduct oversight.

While the laws surrounding the executive branch deployment of military force have been significantly diluted since 2001 (the current Authorization of Use of Military Force [AUMF] is still in effect, 25 years later but was only supposed to be in response to terrorists connect to the 9/11 attacks), the administration can’t simply wave away literal war crimes by claiming people just trying to survive the sinking of their boat constituted a clear and present threat to the United States that demanded three additional US military strikes to ensure they were dead and their boat was completely destroyed.

And if you still think none of the above is persuasive, there’s also this fact: the boat hit by four military strikes wasn’t even headed towards the United States. It was headed to another South American country that usually serves as a transport point for drugs headed away from the US.

The alleged drug traffickers killed by the US military in a strike on September 2 were heading to link up with another, larger vessel that was bound for Suriname — a small South American country east of Venezuela – the admiral who oversaw the operation told lawmakers on Thursday, according to two sources with direct knowledge of his remarks.

[…]

US drug enforcement officials say that trafficking routes via Suriname are primarily destined for European markets. US-bound drug trafficking routes have been concentrated on the Pacific Ocean in recent years.

It’s immediately apparent that this boat strike program has nothing to do with deterring trafficking and everything to do with the administration’s desire to destroy anything and anyone coming from countries south of our southern border. I mean, it’s already made it clear it won’t prosecute military troops or officials for engaging in illegal activities related to its boat strike program.

With that deterrent removed, the only constraint left is the consciences of those asked to carry out the administration’s orders. And anyone with a functional sense of right and wrong will find themselves out of a job during the next Trump administration purge cycle until there’s no one left to refuse to do Trump’s dirty work.

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David says:

Like always, worth reading the regime's take on it

Essentially, the verbiage boils down to “we achieved our goals” like in many recent press releases concerning things that courts, journalists and other people looking at lawfulness are not on the same page about.

Essentially, “the ends justify the means when the government is involved”. Or in one word, fascism. Not as a buzzword or invective, but as the bonafide definition of the political system by its founders and proponents.

Together with a dose of “that’s what you wanted”.

Anonymous Coward says:

the administration can’t simply wave away literal war crimes

But they can issue sanctions against the judges who’ll decide whether it’s a war crime. And they did! Way back in July, under an executive order issued in Februrary, although I don’t remember seeing a Techdirt story on either event.

The United Nations have condemned this as “deeply corrosive” to justice. The affected foreign judges can no longer use Visa or MasterCard credit cards, can’t use Uber or Western Union or Paypal, can’t make any U.S.-dollar-denominated payments.

I don’t think Trump’s people have targeted U.S. judges yet. I don’t know what, if anything, is stopping them.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Senator Cotton’s take on double striking the survivors seems to be adopting the same rhetoric as Nazi Nuremberg defendants and Israeli genocide advocates in asserting that if survivors exist after being attacked, then they’re a continued threat by their very existence, regardless of their capability or intention to retaliate.

It’s actually pretty similar to US law enforcement training that teaches cops that a wounded person is still a deadly threat and needs more holes. And then after they’re bleeding out or already dead, you scream “show me your hands” instead of calling an ambulance or rendering medical aid.

Apparently brutal unrelenting force is the only answer because nuance is hard on the brain.

David says:

Sorry?

Senator Cotton’s take on double striking the survivors seems to be adopting the same rhetoric as Nazi Nuremberg defendants.

Uh, no? Cotton’s rhetoric was not even attempting a defense. It was a celebration of success.

Apparently he wasn’t concerned with the question whether the U.S. military committed a war crime, but whether they successfully committed a war crime.

frankcox (profile) says:

It is strictly forbidden to attack persons who are shipwrecked

Shipwrecked members of the armed forces at sea are protected under Geneva Convention II. It is strictly forbidden to attack persons who are shipwrecked, regardless of whether they are retreating or floating. Once a ship is sunk/disabled and the crew is in the water or lifeboats, they are hors de combat by default. The codified protection of shipwrecked sailors is largely a product of 18th and 19th-century European maritime custom, eventually solidified in the Hague and Geneva Conventions.

In March, 1944, the German U-boat U-852 sank the Greek freighter Peleus in the South Atlantic, Commander Heinz-Wilhelm Eck ordered his crew to systematically machine-gun survivors on life rafts and in the water for several hours. Eck’s stated intention was to eliminate all traces of the sinking to prevent Allied forces from locating his submarine. This action went far beyond any claim of operational necessity or self-defense; it was a deliberate attempt to murder witnesses. After the war, Eck and two of his officers were captured, tried by a British military court, convicted of war crimes, and executed. The Peleus trial established clear legal precedent that orders to kill survivors constituted criminal acts for which commanders bore personal responsibility, regardless of their stated military rationale.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

The key point in the above story is “After the war, Eck and two of his officers were captured”.

The International Criminal Court may eventually issue an arrest warrant for Trump or other involved people. But then they have to capture those people, and they have no jurisdiction within the U.S., because the U.S. is not a member (and this isn’t a Trump thing—there’s been bi-partisan animosity toward the I.C.C. for decades). In practice, these people will just have to avoid traveling through I.C.C. member countries.

See also the history of Guantanamo Bay, and the U.S. reaction to their own courts saying various actions there violated the Geneva Convention. A U.N. report found the same, but, like with the Nazis and the Nuremberg trials, nothing can happen till the perpetrators are caught by a country willing to do something other than write a report.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

They’ve issued warrants for Putin and Netanyahu, among others; Trump’s pissed off a lot of people at the U.N. and the I.C.C., to which Venezuela is a party; and, as Tim says, this looks a lot like a war crime. If Trump keeps this shit up for 3 more years, it’d be a dereliction of duty for the court not to at least open an investigation.

I doubt it’ll result in Trump’s arrest, but I think there’s a non-trivial probability of a warrant.

frankcox (profile) says:

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I find it mind-boggling that Hegseth and Admiral Bradley are willing to take actions and commit crimes that expose them to being put in front of an actual FIRING SQUAD, just to please or impress Donald Trump.

That’s a Jim Jones level of madness.

Plus, Donald Trump is not a young man and he won’t be there forever to protect them from the consequences of their actions.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

Donald Trump is not a young man and he won’t be there forever to protect them from the consequences of their actions.

Even if Trump manages to make it through the next 37 months without dying of (what I very much hope would be) a(n excruciating) heart attack, the chances that he’ll remain in office after the 20th of January 2029 are⁠—and I can’t believe I actually have to say this⁠—slim-to-none. Once he’s gone, unless a Republican holds the White House, Hegseth will be a target for investigations just like every other member of Trump’s regime (save for Trump himself). Any Democrat who doesn’t run on investigating and punishing members of the Trump regime for criminal acts is a Democrat who isn’t going to win an election in 2026 or 2028.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2 The Jan 6 insurrectionists pardons already set that precedent

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if part of the reason Hegseth is so confident in defending and ordering war-crimes is that Trump has already told him that he will be pardoned for anything he does for the regime.

Whether or Trump would actually follow through(with his dementia who knows) is another matter, but it would not surprise me if the ‘offer’ had been already been made to at least Hegseth.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if part of the reason Hegseth is so confident in defending and ordering war-crimes is that Trump has already told him that he will be pardoned for anything he does for the regime.

Whether it’s by Trump, Vance (in the event Trump leaves office early, one way or another), or the next Republican to hold office, he will eventually be pardoned. He knows it. That’s why he’s effectively betting his life on that pardon being his. All he has to do is not piss off Trump and boom, free get-out-of-war-crimes-jail-free card.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:5

A presidential pardon isn’t of any relevance in an international prosecution, which is what we’re discussing here.

Sure, we’re discussing it, but we’re also discussing the general non-feasibility of it. A presidental pardon will let someone “hide out” from international prosecution in the entire U.S.A., which is not a huge hardship; many Americans never leave.

The U.S. has passed specific laws to protect Americans from court judgments, notably:

In 2002, the U.S. Congress passed the American Service-Members’ Protection Act (ASPA), which contained a number of provisions, including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”, and also prohibitions on the United States providing military aid to countries which had ratified the treaty establishing the court.
[…]
The U.S. has interpreted [Article 98 of the Rome Statute] to mean that its citizens cannot be transferred to the ICC by any state that has signed a bilateral agreement with the U.S. prohibiting such a transfer, even if the state is a member of the Rome Statute. The U.S. actively pressured states to conclude such so-called Article 98 agreements, otherwise known as bilateral immunity agreements (BIAs).

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:7

And that’s why I don’t hold out any hope of Trump being the target of any sort of investigation by international courts

Do you mean “from Trump being the target”? Because the I.C.C. being unable to arrest people won’t affect whether those people can be the targets of investigations.

In other words, it’s reasonable to hold out hope of Trump being the target. Hoping it’ll lead to a useful result, such as an arrest and trial, is something else entirely. I’m not holding out hope for Netanyahu’s arrest or conviction for war crimes; but the investigation, indictment, and warrant are done.

ECA (profile) says:

Its so entertaining

That out of all the crimes, in the USA. Drugs seem to be a big one.
But NO ONE ever mentions the Drug Czars. Those persons in charge of the money going back and forth.
All we see are the Handlers and Mailmen. And its NOT that there are To many of these Czars. Cause the Amounts of money on the table is HUGE for the drugs being handled.
I know they want to stay OUT of the picture in Every way, and MAYBE 1=5 persons Even have an Idea who they are in the USA.
But, unless you are willing to deal with CASH ONLY. there will be a money trail. And Even with Cash sales, you could place a notice out to Every business about LARGE sales ofg Cash only, to be reported.

With that said. All thats happening is Performance ART. The USA is backing USA CORPS to take advantage of S. America, and ALWAYS HAS backed the corps over the S. American nations..

Mike Pellegrini says:

No, it's not even a war crime.

For it to be a war crime, we must be in a state of war. Because trump says we’re at war with “narco terrorists” doesn’t make it so. No war exists.

The killings – all 80+ of them – are extra-judicial killings, or more simply put, “premeditated murder.”

And trump, the psycho-warrior major, et al, are mass murderers. Pretty prolific ones at that.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

For it to be a war crime, we must be in a state of war.

This does not appear to be true:

Common Article 2 states that the Geneva Conventions apply to all the cases of international armed conflict (IAC), where at least one of the warring nations has ratified the Conventions. Primarily:
– The Conventions apply to all cases of declared war between signatory nations. This is the original sense of applicability, which predates the 1949 version.
– The Conventions apply to all cases of armed conflict between two or more signatory nations. This language was added in 1949 to accommodate situations that have all the characteristics of war without the existence of a formal declaration of war, such as a police action.
– The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not a signatory, but only if the opposing nation “accepts and applies the provisions” of the Conventions.

Mike Pellegrini says:

Re: Re: "...apply to all cases of armed conflict between two or more signatory nations..."

The way that reads, for the Geneva Convention to apply, it rather looks like the conflict needs to be between two or more nations. “Narco terrorists” is not a nation. What we’ve got is like trump declaring war on antifa; an amorphous concept, not an actual organization, much less a nation-state. Or if you take “narco terrorists” to read as though it was a business (which is fairly accurate), it’d be like trump waging war against Tesla or some other company (which may very well happen).

Don’t get me wrong; if the ICC can find a way to charge him with War Crimes, I’d love it.

But conceptually, I think “prolific mass murderer” is a better label.

Narcissus (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re: Police action

I think it would be covered under the “police action” bit.

Those type of actions tend to be against insurgents, freedom fighters and other assorted non-governmental groups. The Netherlands, for example, fought a “Police action” (that’s what they called it themselves) after WW II to try to prevent indonesia from gaining independence. Obviously, they were not fighting the government of Indonesia, because they thought that was them. And, formally, they were right.

Incidentally, that police action was also rife with human rights violations and atrocities. Maybe we should have Geneva IV, to ban Police Actions alltogether.

But I agree. I hope they put the guilty ones on trial, even though I’m not hopeful that will ever happen. Pretty sure the preemptive pardons are already written.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

The way that reads, for the Geneva Convention to apply, it rather looks like the conflict needs to be between two or more nations. “Narco terrorists” is not a nation.

The relevant nation would be Venezuela, maybe. I haven’t looked into the procedural details, like what happens if Venezuela’s leader is Trump’s buddy and refuses to push for charges (perhaps on the basis that these were unaffiliated people being killed).

Arijirija says:

Star Chamber behavior

This actually is just the continuance of the drone strike behavior that emerged from the swamps of the beltway after 9/11. The President is engaging in Star Chamber behavior:

https://www.thoughtco.com/court-of-star-chamber-1789073

“The Star Chamber drew its authority from the king’s sovereign power and privileges and was not bound by the common law. ”

https://libguides.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/law-histcom/starch

https://www.legalbriefai.com/legal-terms/star-chamber

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

If you want any more proof that the current recumbent in the White House considers himself beyong the rule of law, this is it. (Mind you, in the UK, the term “white house” is most often used for psychiatric outpatients wards. It might do us well to remember that, and remind said recumbent of that.)

Dazancic says:

According to the CNN article:

The alleged drug traffickers … were heading to link up with another, larger vessel that was bound for Suriname. … The struck boat planned to “rendezvous” with the second vessel … but the military was unable to locate the second vessel.

They’re so desperate to explain why they murdered those people that they completely undermine their stated goals. If they had waited for this supposed rendezvous, they could’ve taken out more “drug traffickers.”

They chose to look like fools rather than own up to their crimes.

Anonymous Coward says:

It’s immediately apparent that this boat strike program has nothing to do with deterring trafficking and everything to do with the administration’s desire to destroy anything and anyone coming from countries south of our southern border.

I was thinking it’s more about Trump trying to start a war so the US can invade them to take their oil.
He’s a shithead dinosaur who thinks crude is still the be-all-end-all of energy production.

That One Guy (profile) says:

All the murderers on the boat: 'Don't blame us, we were just following orders'

I’m starting to understand why the regime and it’s supporters had such a violent response to the video those handful of democrats put out reminding members of the US military that they not only have a right but a duty to refuse illegal orders…

As always any time a story like this comes out it’s important to remember: While the regime can issue whatever orders they want the members of the military are the ones choosing to follow those orders, and as such everyone involved on those ships are just as responsible for and guilty of the results.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

Reminder that exactly four weeks after that double-tap strike, Pete Hegseth gave a speech in which he implied that the US military should inflict “overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy” and wouldn’t “fight with stupid rules of engagement”. He further implied that he would “untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country” so that soldiers would no longer have to worry about “politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement”. And yes, everything in quotation marks above is an actual quote from that speech.

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