A Newsletter Writer Reflects On Leaving Substack

from the the-water's-fine dept

Many of you may be familiar with the brilliant writer A.R. Moxon, writer of the excellent “The Reframe” newsletter. Last year, he moved The Reframe from Substack to Ghost, and has now written about that experience. It’s an interesting read that we thought many here might enjoy as well, and Moxon was kind enough to allow us to republish it. If you don’t already, you should subscribe to The Reframe.

I am thinking today about the move of The Reframe off of Substack.

Yyyyyyitsbeen … 1 year since I moved off of Substack. The short of it is that it came out that Substack was (and still are) monetizing Nazi accounts, and the intellectually flabby and totally bad-faith response by Substack’s founder to the creator reaction to this news indicated to me that a) their constant platforming of anti-trans bigots was (as I should have known) not just an error in judgment but part of an overall ideological agenda to platform and promote bigotry; and b) Substack’s leaders were in no way trustworthy partners in any endeavor, business or otherwise. For more details you can read here.

I left. Since January 2024, I have posted first and foremost on the new site (a week or so after posting I put essays on Substack for readers who still use their app to read), and since March 2024 all emails and monetization have gone through the new site and all links have gone to it. It was a bit of a pain in the ass and pretty scary. You can read about all that here.

I have a few thoughts now that I’ve got a year under my belt, and the idea of having to deal with Nazis in public spaces is even more in the forefront of the minds of ethical people of good heart everywhere, now that we have what is for all purposes and certainly all intents a Nazi party in control of so much of our federal and state governments.

First, moving my monetization off of Substack wasn’t as big of a pain in the ass as I thought it would be. After doing my due diligence I landed on Ghost as my new newsletter host, but there were other very good alternatives, and all of them were offering something close to the same experience. Ghost was and is great, I have to say. They offered a concierge service that did almost all the work, porting over content and holding my hand through moving my subscriptions, and even navigating some hiccups that occurred because of the weird way I’ve set up coupons so that people can pay what they want. The team was extremely responsive and diligent and when (rare) issues have come up they have provided quick and useful advice. Additionally, they charge a flat rate rather than taking 10% of my action, as Substack did. My readership list and subscriptions have grown at the same rate as before and engagement is roughly the same. This isn’t a paid advertisement for Ghost and I’m not even going to bother putting up a referral link. This is simply my word to any other creator who is thinking about jumping off of Substack as that platform’s owners continue time and again to prove they’re a real bullshit bunch of bunkos: Moving is easier than you think and costs less.

Second, it was scarier than I thought it would be. What we’ve built here is very important to me, and that makes me very hesitant to mess with any part of the formula. Look, real talk: A huge part of the relief that all of you give to me is simply by being readers, paid or otherwise—even if the money went away completely, I’d keep writing—but the money matters. It’s changed my life and those of my loved ones in measurable positive ways, and if it had gone away because of a discretionary platform move, it would have been a really hard thing to absorb. This worst-case scenario didn’t happen, but when I moved there weren’t guarantees. It was a sweat. For this reason I’m not a hardline leaver. There are still a lot of anti-supremacy people who are posting on Substack, and many of them need the money much more than me, and are even in the exact groups most targeted for harm by the bigots and fascists that Substack finds it so important to platform. But I could afford more risk than many, and I took that risk, and I’m very glad I did. This leads me to my closing thought.

I think the Substack matter underscores the fact that questions of privilege matters to moral calculations of how to be anti-supremacist. As I was reading back on my words from about a year ago, this passage stood out:

As previously alluded, this whole country is getting pretty damn Nazi-normalizing these days …. it seems like Nazi adjacency just might not be optional anymore no matter where you are.

And that’s what Nazis want: to be everywhere, so that you can’t go anywhere.

This most of all: making everybody else leave whatever spaces they enter is exactly what Nazis demand and expect, and they have a clear pattern of going to any platform where people of good intent congregate, in order to chase them out, to splinter communities, to position good intent as fringe and themselves as mainstream—which allows them to move out the margins of permission on the violence they intend.

I would encourage you to keep encouraging people to leave Substack, for very good reasons. But I’d also encourage applying a level of clarity to the effort. The Nazi bar metaphor is a useful one, but it’s time to recognize that if you’re in the U.S., the lesson of the story was ignored, and now the country has become a Nazi bar. People targeted by Nazis are going to stay alive any way they can. I think of queer creators and Black creators and creators whose entire income is based on their newsletter: they’re making calculations with different math than I used. I still think they can safely move, and I think it would be better if they did, and I hope they will, but nevertheless I support them as they try to keep their heads above water.

I also don’t give myself too much credit for my move, or fall into the trap that my move has inoculated me against complicity with American supremacy. My belief is that it’s people privileged by our supremacist culture who need to pay the highest costs of resisting supremacy, precisely because it’s privileged people who are asked to pay the lowest costs by supremacy, and are even offered discounts by it. It was necessary for me to move from Substack in a way that it might not be for everyone.

I had the capacity for the risk, because I belong to almost every class that our supremacist culture defends. Given that my health is still relatively good and I am still employable, I belong to only one class that our supremacists target, and that is people who believe in human society and ethics and common decency, and speak out against their destruction. Perhaps someday I’ll be on the list for persecution by our current crop of American Nazis (as grandiose as that sounds), but I’m way down the list. More to the point, at present I think I am the sort of creator that pro-supremacy technocrats like Substack’s founders most value, and my presence within Substack would lend their pro-supremacy project a tacit credibility to people who value white male etcetera voices more than all others, which other creators, perhaps, do not.

I migrated a year ago because I thought it was best for my budding career as a writer. I also did it because I thought it was my moral duty—but my moral duty specifically, and it is upon myself I find it most appropriate to impose moral duties.

However for all creators or potential creators, I will say again: leaving Substack behind is probably a better idea than staying no matter your circumstance, and it is easier than I thought it would be, and it costs less than I feared it would. It was scarier than I thought it would be, but it was easier than I thought it would be, and I’m very glad I did it. There are probably lessons to be had here about doing scary things that you believe to be right. Anyone who wants to come over, hit me up and I’ll happily give whatever modest help I can provide.

Come on in. The water’s fine.

A.R. Moxon is the author of the novel The Revisionaries, which is available in most of the usual places, and some of the unusual places, and the essay collection Very Fine People. You can get his books right here for example. He is also co-writer of Sugar Maple, a musical fiction podcast from Osiris Media which goes in your ears. He’s doing the things a particle can. A version of this post first appeared in his newsletter The Reframe, which you should subscribe to.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Hell yeah, indeed.

Also pretty sure you are the one who introduced me to his writing. Sometime last year or just a bit earlier.

Leah Abram (profile) says:

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I was also introduced to A.R. Moxon, and then I purchased his book, Very Fine People, which I finished and then gave to a former work colleague of mine who is also a bookworm, which she exchanges for cookies at this delicious bakery nearby called One Girl Cookies! I’d say it’s a fair trade, as she gets new reading material, I find a new home for a book I already read, and I get cookies! For me, it’s a win/win!

Anonymous Coward says:

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i like reading something where all of the things are good!

i should really try to get both his extant books.

And there are a few people inhabiting this place, at the very least one, who should really read The Reframe for their own mental health. Moxon is very good at succinctly crystallizing and conveying modes of action.

Bloof (profile) says:

Meanwhile Substack are having to hold up a fig leaf and offer to help fund the legal defenses of authors who are punished for wrongthink by the people now in power that are enacting the abhorrent beliefs they have both helped to platform and fund. Even if they paid for every part of their legal defense, the Trump admin will likely just deport them anyway and tell the courts to go eff themselves.

Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Re: WRONGthink

…authors who are punished for wrongthink…

George Orwell penned a dystopian novel (well among others) in which he envisioned a world where the government disallowed words, because then there could be no concept, and hence no thought that disagreed with official “Ministry of Truth” things.

But WRONGThink. That’s clever. Because we think, but if we don’t think in accordance with “what’s right” (as decided by whom?) we’re doing it wrong.

Shoot, my flight to an El Salvador prison is leaving and

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Bloof (profile) says:

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ICE just tweeted, then deleted a post listing ideas alongside contraband as something they’re required to stop at the border. Forget the Panama canal, Orwell’s spinning so hard in his grave he’s drilling straight to China.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Yeah, I read about that. The graphic in that post originally read “ideas”, then ICE deleted it and replaced it a while later with a graphic that read “intellectual property”. But given how the Trump administration said it would be looking at the social media accounts of potential immigrants to determine whether they would be allowed in, I’m guessing “ideas” was the original plan for that graphic until ICE got more blowback than it expected.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Given ‘intellectual property’ covers anything a person thinks and puts in a form that can be shared they’re still saying the same thing as they were before, they just swapped around the terms they used.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Granted, but “intellectual property” sounds a little less directly threatening than “ideas” in the context of this particular situation. I imagine ICE didn’t want to sound too overtly authoritarian and this “mistake” fell through the cracks somehow.

Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Intellectual Property

@That One Guy, we’re almost drinking buddies. SO no lectures here.

Given ‘intellectual property’ covers anything a person thinks and puts in a form that can be shared they’re still saying the same thing as they were before, they just swapped around the terms they used.

IP isn’t either intellectual nor property. Property has notes, deeds, licenses, registration, etc.

IP is allegedly consisting of trademarks, patents, copyrights, and trade screts. It used to be nothing, then just the first three, and now all of those.

“Anything you think” are your thoughts. There’s no IP there. “And put into a form” you’re now thinking “fix into a tangible medium of expression” which only only applies to copyright law. Trademark requires use in trade. Patents have much more complex requirements. Trade secrets require the showing that violating that “secret” part causes “damages” ignores the duty of the damaged party to mitigate those damages.

Not a lawyer. Hang out with some. US specific law.

IP is not a real thing. But keep pretending, ye politicians and lawyers, because it makes you money.

Not a thing. Unrelated things with different laws, rules, regulations, duties, etc.

Happy Easter / Passover!

Ehud Gavron (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5 Holidays

And a חג פסח טוב to you too!

Thank you!

Happy passover and easer to all as well.

People ask me on Christmas whether I celebrate. Well the tree lights up the living room and ever religion I know including Christians, Jews, Hindi, etc. have a “festival of lights.”

Second there are presents under said tree. Who on god’s green earth (ok the earth is mostly blue and there are brown spots) hates presents?!?

This is one of those 1/15 years where the Jewish holiday of Passover coincides with the Christian holiday of Easter, leading to the inevitable discussion of whether The Last Supper was Passover Seder.

I thank Leah for her well wishes, share will wishes with all of you, whether we agree on politics, laws, technology, or leadership. And I’ll just say one more thing:

WHEN YOU’RE BEING SEATED AT DINNER AND THE GUY NEXT TO YOU IS JUDAS THEN either move to the other end of the table, get him moved, or exit out the kitchen exit and go to the nearest restaurant/bar to have a safer meal.

If you’re unsure, here’s how that conversation goes:
Judas: Hey, is it ok if I sit RIGHT BY YOU so I CAN POINT AT YOU?
You: Sure thing, let me just check out how the roast is doing.
[head to kitchen]
[exit kitchen door]
[call rideshare/Lyft etc. or just walk]
[Have a great night and not get killed.]

Humor aside, happy holidays!

Leah Abram (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:6

Well, on Christmas, since I’m a Jew in NYC, I order take-out from my local Chinese Restaurant, and then watch a movie. But thre real presents we get are on New Year’s Day, when we get a treasure trove of works entering the Public Domain!

Anonymous Coward says:

So good, i read it this second time.

i really did appreciate the hint to more privileged anti-fascists and whoever about not targeting those less able to leave the Nazi bars. Because that is indeed one of the functions of your words.

Connedsumer (profile) says:

Nazis for Israel?

“…now that we have what is for all purposes and certainly all intents a Nazi party in control…”

Yawn. This president is as pro-Israel as any other and more anti-antisemitic than most.

Is Ghost better suited for authors disconnected from reality?

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