Russia Issues Fine To Google For More Money Than Exists Over Banned YouTube Channels
from the a-billion-gazillion-dollars dept
Here are two things that are not secrets, but play into this story. First, it’s known that Google and Russia have had an acrimonious relationship for some time. Between various threats from the Russian government to ban Google and/or YouTube here and there, typically because the country doesn’t like Google’s decisions over what content to block or allow, and Russia’s more general heartburn over speech it doesn’t like, the two entities tend to butt heads frequently. Second, Putin’s stranglehold on his government, forcing it to operate at levels high and low according to his own personal whims can produce government actions so absurd that they would be funny were it all not so terrifying.
So, it’s a mixture of those two truths that generate absurd activities such as the Russian government issuing a fine on Google for literally more money than even exists in the world.
Google reportedly owes the Kremlin more than 2 undecillion rubles — a 2 followed by 36 zeroes — after refusing to pay fines that are now accruing for blocking pro-Russian channels on YouTube. The virtually unpronounceable penalty amounts to $20 decillion — or around $20 billion trillion trillion. That dwarfs the size of the global economy.
At $110 trillion, according to International Monetary Fund figures, world gross domestic product looks modest in comparison. Google parent Alphabet, meanwhile, has a market value of around $2 trillion.
There’s a Dr. Evil joke in there somewhere, but I’m not going to bother. The problem with a fine like this is that it’s so absolutely absurd, so over the top, that it is rendered meaningless. To be clear, Google is not under any kind of actual monetary threat here. Google has had a relatively muted presence in Russia after the country’s unilateral invasion of Ukraine. Google’s child-company in Russia filed for bankruptcy long ago, due to the Russian government seizing its money and assets. YouTube and Google search still work in Russia as of today, though this fine appears to be a step towards restricting access to Google sites in Russia in the future.
Even the Kremlin kreatures have acknowledged that this fine has no practical application when it comes to hurting the company.
Asked about the lawsuit during a call with reporters Thursday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov admitted that he “can’t even pronounce this figure right” but said that the eye-watering sum was “filled with symbolism.” Google “should not be restricting the actions of our broadcasters on its platform,” he added.
CNN has contacted Google for comment. In quarterly earnings published this week, the company referred to “ongoing legal matters” relating to its business in Russia.
“Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties,” Google said. “We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect (on earnings).”
Which is how, in the end, this fine serves to do nothing beyond being a public demonstration as to just how completely corrupt the Russian government has become. The fine is meaningless, save as a justification to further restrict the internet access of Russian citizens.
Filed Under: content moderation, fine, russia
Companies: google, youtube


Comments on “Russia Issues Fine To Google For More Money Than Exists Over Banned YouTube Channels”
Vladimir, please stop giving bad ideas to Trump. Even he can’t count and has no sense of humor, some people listen to him.
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Too late, The Dumpster is suing CBS for $10billion.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-cbs-harris-interview-lawsuit
'This fine is a joke and so are you.'
Once a fine reaches the point where it’s effectively if not literally impossible to pay it loses any intimidation impact and just leaves the one issuing it looking like a fool for demanding the impossible, so well done russian government for dunking on yourself in your petulant spat with Google.
Commas
That fine has an impressive number of commas.
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They would use scientific notation if they knew what that was.
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Clumsy scientists keep falling from windows.
Pay it with Monopoly money.
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No, no, pay it with newly created Class D shares in Alphabet. You know, the kind that aren’t actual voting shares, and earn only one undecillionth of a ruble.
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Can’t. They only print about $30,000,000,000 of Monopoly money per year.
It’d take longer than the age of the universe (by several orders of magnitude) to print enough to pay the fine.
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Who says anyone has to start printing anything now? There must be loads of old Monopoly games out there, especially with all the limited editions Hasbro’s released.
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Sure. Let’s say they’ve been printing Monopoly money at that rate for a century now. In fact, let’s say it’s ten times that rate.
That’s 30 trillion dollars of Monopoly money in people’s cupboards.
Which amounts to 0.00000000000000000015% of the fine that Google owns.
Hence, the need to start printing.
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I don’t see why we can’t just print larger bills, personally
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Oh, sure. But in any bills large enough to pay a non-trivial amount of the fine, they’d be pretty useless in a game of Monopoly, and thus they’d just be fake money in general and not really Monopoly money.
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Google could start literally counterfeiting Rubles, and their defense would be that a Russian court effectively ordered them to.
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Of course this site opposes a sovereign nation like Russia standing up to an evil monopolist.
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That’s fucking sad, even by the super pathetic, sad sack, bitchtits, cry baby complaint, that we expect from you bro.
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Is Russia a sovereign state?
Is Google an evil monopolist?
Is TD bitching about Russia standing up to an evil monopolist?
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No, no, dig up stupid!
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Can you show us on the doll where TD touched you?
Did you ever stop blowing goats?
How much of your sad, pathetic, impotent life have you wasted acting like a bitch here?
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Russia being a sovereign state isn’t the right question. Is the Russian government that issued the fine a legitimate government resulting from a verified democratic election or an authoritarian oligarchy that regularly violates human rights?
Evil is a subjective term. I’m guessing more people in the world would consider the current Russian government to be more evil than Google. How many Ukrainians has Google genocided?
No, because we haven’t established that Russia is standing up to anything, much less an evil monopolist, or Google for that matter.
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“Is Russia a sovereign state?”
Is Ukraine a sovereign state?
Did Russia promise Ukraine to never invade them but then did anyway?
Is Putin full of shit?
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And Russia sure is fucking-up the Ukrainians! How much more territory have they recently captured?
Ukraine should’ve sought a negotiated peace long ago, but didn’t b/c it wasn’t in the interests of the evil axis of US-EU/NATO-MIC.
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Putin is just a gas station with nukes, they contribute little to the human race. Why would anyone give them anything?
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Or Russia, which started the war, could have packed up and left and paid billions in reparations for committing human rights violations and Russia’s government could collapse and give way to a democratic government that holds Putin responsible for his crimes.
But yeah, it’s definitely Ukraine’s fault for not giving in to a bully who tries to seize territory via wholesale murder. And you’re definitely not a murder-apologist for carrying water for Putin’s empire-rebuilding.
Re: Re: Re:3 WHy are you so bad at this?
“How much more territory have they recently captured?”
Negative a whole bunch since the Ukrainians started doing a little territory capturing of their own.
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From the NY Times – November 1, 2024:
Ukraine is cooked. They should’ve sued for peace long ago!
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Yes, they should have capitulated to an aggressor who won’t stop at taking more. That’s definitely how you stop genocidal bullies. Thank you, Prime Minister Chamberlain for that lesson in diplomacy.
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FTFY. YW.
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Dear paid Russian operative:
Sincerely,
Everyone who isn’t a paid shill for Vladimir “I don’t know why the people with any political power who oppose me keep getting murdered, that’s weird bro” Putin
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Concert to my anti gaming cause you coward!
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Russia is a terroristic mafia state.
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Aww, show us on the doll where Russia terrorized you, lil’ Timmy!
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Funny how some people just have to defend rapists, child murderers, terrorists, thieves, war criminals and stupid drunks in an effort to show everyone how much they will debase themselves publicly. It’s like watching someone publicly smearing dogshit all over themselves screaming “look how cool I am”.
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Very fair description of Ukraine’s oligarchs. Bravo.
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Matryoshka_doll was right there and you missed it. Well now we know why no one has ever accused you of being funny.
To be clear, this is actually the result of fine imposed years ago that was set to double every week it went unpaid. Google never paid, and doubling every week is extremely fast exponential growth, leading to this monstrosity. In less than a year, the fine will reach a googol rubles.
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Google can pay off the fine by giving Russia a penny that doubles its size (I mean, radius and width, so 8x volume) every day.
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Ladies and gentlemen, out your hands together for the Googol Rubles!!!
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Put your hands together, not out your hands together.
I hate it when I blow the punchline
I feel like people talking about this as “more than all the money that exists” are underselling it a bit (partly because human brains don’t like numbers this big). With cursory research, the best comparison I think I can make is that Russia is fining google the entire planet Earth, while there are only about 3 adult orcas worth of money.
Showing my work:
20 decillion is about 2e34
110 trillion is about 1.1e14
Earth is about 5.6e24 kg
Orcas are about 3000-4000 kg => 3 orcas are about 1e4 kg
Please correct me if I screwed anything up, but we’re looking at about 20 orders of magnitude difference.
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Sorry, it’s more like 8 or 9 orcas.
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Curiously, in the UK the size of Wales is often used as a unit of comparison. If you doubt this I can provide a cetacean.
The Long Arm of the Law
I wonder how these things would play if it were, say, the European Union instead of Russia and the sum were only 100% of Google’s net worth instead of it being more money than exists in the entire world. If one is to support the EU’s huge extraterritorial fines over GDPR and DSA violations then one must also support Russia’s. The difference is more a matter of degree than susbstance.
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Very well said.
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Quantity has a quality of its own.
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I would guess that people who would support the EU’s extraterritorial fines against specifically Google would do so because they don’t like Google, not because they think the EU should wield such reach.
Russia = copyright infringement. Equaly insane.
Technically
YouTube is slowed to a crawl and videos don’t load, unless you use a mobile network (for some reason) or apply various anti-DPI measures.
They should send them a Monopoly board and a pair of loaded dice.
Answer carefully
Would you rather have a fine of $1 million today, or would you like the fine doubled each day for 30 days?
Y’all … we thought the adverts were bad before, but think of how many ad’s Google’s gotta be selling NOW to make up for this fine!!
what is money anyany?
and how does it convert to a Ningi, which if goolge could get hold of one and dump that on russia as paid.
Those fines are on a computer somewhere. Just break into those computers and lower the amount owed, pay off the lowered amount, then that will be the end of it.
The books will still balance, and no audit of the books will find it.
Just use VPN and Tor COMBINED to hide your IP address. Putting them together makes you untraceable
I do that when posting here because I have doubt the Feds are interested in what I post here.
I did that when I was 17 so my folks would not pay a big bill when I effed up a machine in shop class. I merely broke in, reduced the amount owed, and they paid the reduced amount from money I had, and no audit of the books would ever show because the books still balanced.
This shows my age here, but blue boxing was still possible back then, and you did not even need buld the electonic box. A program like Tell A Clone could generate the tones for you.
Blue boxing meant that tracing would take an hour or more. I could get in, do the deed, and get off quick, and never traced
One reason why telcos did not change that for a long time is that it has been argued that they were the only phone circuits that could survive a nuclear war, as long as there was not a direct hit.
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Do you listen to the Hackers soundtrack when you write this awkward fan fiction?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good soundtrack, but you’re posing so hard here.