Russia Issues Fine To Google For More Money Than Exists Over Banned YouTube Channels

from the a-billion-gazillion-dollars dept

Here are two things that are not secrets, but play into this story. First, it’s known that Google and Russia have had an acrimonious relationship for some time. Between various threats from the Russian government to ban Google and/or YouTube here and there, typically because the country doesn’t like Google’s decisions over what content to block or allow, and Russia’s more general heartburn over speech it doesn’t like, the two entities tend to butt heads frequently. Second, Putin’s stranglehold on his government, forcing it to operate at levels high and low according to his own personal whims can produce government actions so absurd that they would be funny were it all not so terrifying.

So, it’s a mixture of those two truths that generate absurd activities such as the Russian government issuing a fine on Google for literally more money than even exists in the world.

Google reportedly owes the Kremlin more than 2 undecillion rubles — a 2 followed by 36 zeroes — after refusing to pay fines that are now accruing for blocking pro-Russian channels on YouTube. The virtually unpronounceable penalty amounts to $20 decillion — or around $20 billion trillion trillion. That dwarfs the size of the global economy.

At $110 trillion, according to International Monetary Fund figures, world gross domestic product looks modest in comparison. Google parent Alphabet, meanwhile, has a market value of around $2 trillion.

There’s a Dr. Evil joke in there somewhere, but I’m not going to bother. The problem with a fine like this is that it’s so absolutely absurd, so over the top, that it is rendered meaningless. To be clear, Google is not under any kind of actual monetary threat here. Google has had a relatively muted presence in Russia after the country’s unilateral invasion of Ukraine. Google’s child-company in Russia filed for bankruptcy long ago, due to the Russian government seizing its money and assets. YouTube and Google search still work in Russia as of today, though this fine appears to be a step towards restricting access to Google sites in Russia in the future.

Even the Kremlin kreatures have acknowledged that this fine has no practical application when it comes to hurting the company.

Asked about the lawsuit during a call with reporters Thursday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov admitted that he “can’t even pronounce this figure right” but said that the eye-watering sum was “filled with symbolism.” Google “should not be restricting the actions of our broadcasters on its platform,” he added.

CNN has contacted Google for comment. In quarterly earnings published this week, the company referred to “ongoing legal matters” relating to its business in Russia.

“Civil judgments that include compounding penalties have been imposed upon us in connection with disputes regarding the termination of accounts, including those of sanctioned parties,” Google said. “We do not believe these ongoing legal matters will have a material adverse effect (on earnings).”

Which is how, in the end, this fine serves to do nothing beyond being a public demonstration as to just how completely corrupt the Russian government has become. The fine is meaningless, save as a justification to further restrict the internet access of Russian citizens.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'This fine is a joke and so are you.'

Once a fine reaches the point where it’s effectively if not literally impossible to pay it loses any intimidation impact and just leaves the one issuing it looking like a fool for demanding the impossible, so well done russian government for dunking on yourself in your petulant spat with Google.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Sure. Let’s say they’ve been printing Monopoly money at that rate for a century now. In fact, let’s say it’s ten times that rate.

That’s 30 trillion dollars of Monopoly money in people’s cupboards.

Which amounts to 0.00000000000000000015% of the fine that Google owns.

Hence, the need to start printing.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Is Russia a sovereign state?

Russia being a sovereign state isn’t the right question. Is the Russian government that issued the fine a legitimate government resulting from a verified democratic election or an authoritarian oligarchy that regularly violates human rights?

Is Google an evil monopolist?

Evil is a subjective term. I’m guessing more people in the world would consider the current Russian government to be more evil than Google. How many Ukrainians has Google genocided?

Is TD bitching about Russia standing up to an evil monopolist?

No, because we haven’t established that Russia is standing up to anything, much less an evil monopolist, or Google for that matter.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

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Ukraine should’ve sought a negotiated peace long ago

Or Russia, which started the war, could have packed up and left and paid billions in reparations for committing human rights violations and Russia’s government could collapse and give way to a democratic government that holds Putin responsible for his crimes.

But yeah, it’s definitely Ukraine’s fault for not giving in to a bully who tries to seize territory via wholesale murder. And you’re definitely not a murder-apologist for carrying water for Putin’s empire-rebuilding.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

From the NY Times – November 1, 2024:

As Russia Advances, U.S. Fears Ukraine Has Entered a Grim Phase

Weapons supplies are no longer Ukraine’s main disadvantage, American military officials say.

“American military and intelligence officials have concluded that the war in Ukraine is no longer a stalemate as Russia makes steady gains, and the sense of pessimism in Kyiv and Washington is deepening.

The dip in morale and questions about whether American support will continue pose their own threat to Ukraine’s war effort. Ukraine is losing territory in the east, and its forces inside Russia have been partially pushed back.

The Ukrainian military is struggling to recruit soldiers and equip new units. The number of its soldiers killed in action, about 57,000, is half of Russia’s losses but still significant for the much smaller country.

…U.S. government analysts concluded this summer that Russia was unlikely to make significant gains in Ukraine in the coming months, as its poorly trained forces struggled to break through Ukrainian defenses. But that assessment proved wrong.

Russian troops have advanced in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. They have clawed back more than a third of the territory that Ukrainian forces seized in a surprise offensive in the Kursk region of western Russia this year. The number of Russian drone strikes across Ukraine has increased from 350 in July to 750 in August and 1,500 in September.”

Ukraine is cooked. They should’ve sued for peace long ago!

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Dear paid Russian operative:

  1. Russia fining Google more money than has ever existed and will ever exist is less about “standing up to an evil monopolist” and more about “trying to get Google to censor whatever Russia wants censored”.
  2. You’re not that clever and we’re not that stupid.

Sincerely,

Everyone who isn’t a paid shill for Vladimir “I don’t know why the people with any political power who oppose me keep getting murdered, that’s weird bro” Putin

Anonymous Coward says:

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Funny how some people just have to defend rapists, child murderers, terrorists, thieves, war criminals and stupid drunks in an effort to show everyone how much they will debase themselves publicly. It’s like watching someone publicly smearing dogshit all over themselves screaming “look how cool I am”.

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eager_pebble (profile) says:

I feel like people talking about this as “more than all the money that exists” are underselling it a bit (partly because human brains don’t like numbers this big). With cursory research, the best comparison I think I can make is that Russia is fining google the entire planet Earth, while there are only about 3 adult orcas worth of money.

Showing my work:
20 decillion is about 2e34
110 trillion is about 1.1e14

Earth is about 5.6e24 kg
Orcas are about 3000-4000 kg => 3 orcas are about 1e4 kg

Please correct me if I screwed anything up, but we’re looking at about 20 orders of magnitude difference.

Adrian Lopez says:

The Long Arm of the Law

I wonder how these things would play if it were, say, the European Union instead of Russia and the sum were only 100% of Google’s net worth instead of it being more money than exists in the entire world. If one is to support the EU’s huge extraterritorial fines over GDPR and DSA violations then one must also support Russia’s. The difference is more a matter of degree than susbstance.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Those fines are on a computer somewhere. Just break into those computers and lower the amount owed, pay off the lowered amount, then that will be the end of it.

The books will still balance, and no audit of the books will find it.

Just use VPN and Tor COMBINED to hide your IP address. Putting them together makes you untraceable

I do that when posting here because I have doubt the Feds are interested in what I post here.

I did that when I was 17 so my folks would not pay a big bill when I effed up a machine in shop class. I merely broke in, reduced the amount owed, and they paid the reduced amount from money I had, and no audit of the books would ever show because the books still balanced.

This shows my age here, but blue boxing was still possible back then, and you did not even need buld the electonic box. A program like Tell A Clone could generate the tones for you.

Blue boxing meant that tracing would take an hour or more. I could get in, do the deed, and get off quick, and never traced

One reason why telcos did not change that for a long time is that it has been argued that they were the only phone circuits that could survive a nuclear war, as long as there was not a direct hit.

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