Jim Jordan & Elon Musk Suppressed Speech; Don’t Let Them Pretend It’s A Win For Free Speech
from the that's-the-opposite-of-free-speech dept
Up is down, left is right, day is night. And now, to Jim Jordan and Elon Musk, clear, direct government censorship is, apparently, “free speech.”
This isn’t a huge surprise, but on Thursday, the World Federation of Advertising shut down GARM, the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, in response to legal threats from ExTwitter and Rumble, and a bullshit Congressional investigation led by Jim Jordan.
As we have detailed, GARM was setup following the mosque shootings in New Zealand, which was livestreamed. Brand advertisers were accused (arguably unfairly) of profiting off of such things, so they put together this alliance to share information about best practices on social media advertising for brand safety.
GARM was specifically a way for advertisers to set up those best practices, share them with each other, but also to share them with social media sites, to say “hey, this is the kind of trust & safety processes we expect if we’re going to advertise.”
I disagreed with GARM about lots of things, but in a free market, where there is free speech, they should absolutely be allowed to create best practices and to talk with platforms and advertisers and advocate for better trust & safety practices in order for brands to feel safe that their ads won’t show up next to dangerous content.
All of it was entirely voluntary. Advertisers didn’t have to abide by the standards, nor did platforms. This was literally just part of the marketplace of ideas. Some advertisers advocated for efforts to be made to protect their brand safety, and some platforms agreed while others, like Rumble, did not.
All GARM was at its core was advertisers using their own freedom of expression and rights of association to try to put some pressure on platforms to be better stewards, so that advertisers weren’t putting their brands at risk. You can (perhaps reasonably!) argue that they pushed too hard, or some of their requests were unreasonable, but it’s their free speech rights.
As we’ve detailed over the last month, ExTwitter had regularly used GARM’s standards to try to convince advertisers they were “safe” and officially “excitedly” rejoined GARM as a member just last month. A few days later, Jim Jordan’s House Judiciary Committee released a blisteringly stupid and misleading report, falsely claiming that GARM was engaged in antitrust-violating collusion to punish conservative media. None of that was ever true.
However, Elon announced that he would be suing GARM and hoped that criminal charges would be filed against GARM, perhaps not realizing his own organization had rejoined GARM a week earlier and touted that relationship in its effort to attract advertisers. Earlier this week, he carried through on that plan and sued GARM for alleged antitrust violations.
The lawsuit is absolutely ridiculous. It assumes that because GARM, at times, criticized Elon’s handling of trust & safety issues, that was a form of collusion that abused its monopoly position to get advertisers to stop advertising on ExTwitter.
It is one of the most entitled, spoiled brat kind of lawsuits you’ll ever see. Not only does it seem to suggest that not advertising on ExTwitter is an antitrust violation, it assumes that the only reason that advertisers would remove their ads from the site was not due to any actions by the company or Elon, but rather that it must be because GARM organized a boycott (which, notably, none of the evidence shows they did). One thing is quite clear from all this: Elon seems incapable of recognizing that the consequences of his own actions fall on him. He insists it must be everyone else’s fault.
Indeed, the sense of entitlement shines through from those involved in this whole process.
For example, Rumble’s CEO Chris Pavlovski more or less admitted that if you turn him down when he asks companies to advertise, you would now get sued. The sheer, unadulterated entitlement on display here is incredible:

Rumble had sued GARM alongside ExTwitter, using some of the same lawyers that Elon did. When tweeting out the details to prove that these advertisers should be added to his lawsuit, Pavlovski only showed perfectly friendly emails from companies saying “hey, look, advertising on your site won’t be good for our reputation, sorry.”

That’s not illegal. It’s not collusion. It’s the marketplace of ideas saying “hey, we don’t want to associate with you.” But, according to Rumble, that alone deserves a lawsuit.
Anyway, the World Federation of Advertisers has apparently given in to this lawfare from Elon and Jim Jordan and announced on Thursday that they were shutting down GARM because of all of this.
In other words, Elon, Jordan, and others have used the power of the state, both in the form of lawsuits and congressional investigations, to browbeat advertisers into no longer speaking up about ways to keep social media sites safe for their brands.
This is the exact opposite of free speech. It’s literally using the power of the state to shut up companies which were expressing views that Elon and Jordan didn’t like.
And, so, of course, they and their fans are celebrating this state-backed censorship as a “win for free speech.” It’s ridiculously Orwellian.

This is not a “win” for the First Amendment in any way. It is, in every way, the opposite. The House Judiciary Committee, under Jim Jordan, abused the power of the state to shut up companies from talking about which sites they felt were safe for brands or what those sites could do to be better.
And, of course, a bunch of other very foolish people repeated more of this kind of nonsense, including some of MAGA’s favorite journalists, who pretend to support free speech. Ben Shapiro called it an “important win for free speech principles,” which is just disconnected from reality.
Linda Yaccarino claims it proves that “no small group should be able to monopolize what gets monetized.” This makes no sense at all. No small group monopolized anything. They just tried to put in place some basic best practices to protect their brands and no one had to agree with them at all (and many didn’t).
And if Linda or Elon thinks this will magically make advertisers want to come back to ExTwitter, they’re even more delusional than I thought. Who would ever want to advertise on a platform that sued advertisers for leaving?
Filed Under: 1st amendment, advertising, antitrust, best practices, censorship, elon musk, entitlement, free speech, garm, jim jordan
Companies: garm, rumble, twitter, wfa, world federation of advertisers, x


Comments on “Jim Jordan & Elon Musk Suppressed Speech; Don’t Let Them Pretend It’s A Win For Free Speech”
If anything, this just leaves ad runners more in the dark about what they need to do.
What do you want to bet Elmo’s next complaint will be that the advertisers aren’t providing an easy way for him to know what needs done for their ads to run on Twitter?
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Well, obviously there will soon be tiers and options to choose from. You can specify what sort of comments you want your ads to accompany .. for a price. You can out bid competitors for ad placements. It will be fun and exciting.
Re: Re: That darn Elmo!
If it works anything like Google Ads, the cost to not be placed next to neo-Nazi twits will be prohibitive
Re: 'I can't get rid of them, they're my biggest supporters here!'
Elon’s problem(in this case anyway) isn’t so much advertisers being ‘vague’ about what content they don’t want their brands to be associated with, it’s that whatever list they provide will be filled with people and content that Elon agrees with and/or supports.
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Yeah. That’s my point. Now that GARM is disbanded, Elmo can cynically take up a position on the other side of the issue to continue playing a victim.
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Those who spend money advertising will now be spending a bit extra on investigations prior to committing, elmo will still be lacking those most coveted advertisers.
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Which is why he’ll point to the opaqueness of their new methods to paint himself a victim.
Re: Re: Re:3 'Here's our list of objectionable content. Here's a list of it on your site. Your move.'
Which I suppose might work so long as they don’t call his bluff and publicly post a non-exhaustive list of content they don’t want to have their brands associated with, along with a good selection of examples of just that sort of content on the platform.
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He’ll probably sue over that too.
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Nazis and their wannabe idiots. Just say it.
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The advertisers are colluding to keep information away from Xitter! That’s gotta be the RICO!
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In Georgia?
Gym Jordan is a pedophile protector, and a liar. In fact, the only person I can even think of that lies more is Donnie Two-Scoops, so even at his best, Gym is 2nd place.
The man is a stain on congress and the people that voted for him, repeatedly, should never be allowed to vote again.
They don’t value the privilege. To them, it’s just another way to throw shit at everyone’s wall.
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Not Just Gymmie. Pretty much the first thing Elmo did with ExTwatter was unban an account that had posted CSAM.
These people are all fucking sick.
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Assuming always that the user posted using the appropriate “#CSAM” tag in his post, that would probably be convenient. I imagine that some three-letter agencies are regularly scanning for that, either for law enforcement purposes or to examine it more carefully as they place it in the agents’ personal collections.
I expect the really noteworthy material also winds up indexed and archived in Bumblehive (https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/) for inter-agency data sharing.
I’m not sure what these people want, and apparently neither do they.
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You are BLINDED by your IRRATIONAL HATRED and ENVY of Elon Musk.
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Haters use caps, just look at donny comments
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You likely have a SMALL PENIS, or identify as NON-BINARY.
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good job confessing that you have no life
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Neither of those things is bad.
Meanwhile, you’re still a moron and a fascist, both of which are bad.
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Be quiet, SEX PEST!
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Swing and a miss, fucko.
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Swing and a miss, pedophile apologist.
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welcome to the clown store here’s your license in your starter kit
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Meanwhile, you are blinded by your irrational clinging to a fascist ideology that has proven, time and again, that not only hate you, but are also more than willing to betray the nation that you live in in order to establish a fascist state led by the ememies of the nation.
While you may think this form of petty harassment may earn you a favor, it will not.
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No. We’re just smarter than you, and capable of empathy.
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Shush, sweetie–the adults are talking.
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That’s not a sentence composed by an “adult.” Pick up your clown shoes on the way out.
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Honey, don’t get yourself into a tizzy. You can just sit this one out. No one will think less of you.
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Says the edgy teenager pretending to be an adult.
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Nobody is interested in your one man clown-show.
You are weird.
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… to you, child.
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I don’t think this theory of “brand safety” makes sense. No large platform platforms, say, a shooting specifically because they can run an ad on it.
You can also trace it further back to, say, Elsagate in 2017 when folks were offended because YouTube Kids had more mature content on it, and you know what, if someone wants to make that argument then fine. An advertising cartel isn’t really the answer to that though, nor is it appropriate.
We as a society can talk through issues like this without a house brand which sells soap reckoning that they know better on moderation issues. We can also do moderation for normal sites, not tailored specifically to kids, without adding padding to everything.
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You know what? You are right.
Twitter should be restricted to adults only.
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And yet plenty of advertises subscribed to it. Even if they are wrong, telling (using governmental power) them they can’t talk about their view is… Ethically reprehensible. And a violation of the First Amendment.
Sure. But GARM was not a cartel. There was no coercion. No “price regulation”. No “forcing out of business” (unless you count people not wanting to do business with you… but in that case you would be an entitled asshole, or a thief).
Does “best practices” not mean anything to you? There was no direct control of moderation. Just standards and best practices so the advertises (the ones that valued the standards and practice GARM suggested) could field comfortable advertising there.
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This isn’t about moderation, though. It’s about advertising. This is about companies realizing that advertising alongside polarizing content is going to lose them customers, because their brand is going to be associated with that content.
These companies don’t want to offend potential customer bases. And that’s a perfectly reasonable business decision. Not to mention well within their rights of freedom of association.
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The first thing Elon did with ExTwit was unban prominent Nazis and pedos. There’s a big difference between an intentional Pedo Nazi bar and a bar whose premises are occasionally frequented by pedos and Nazis who manage to hide in the crowd.
Your false equivalence is bad, and you should feel bad.
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What advertising cartel?
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When multiple people do something I don’t like, it’s a cartel.
Elon: FREE SPEACH FOR EVERYONE!!!
Christian Nationalists: About time!
Clueless Rednecks: YAS!
Armchair Quarterbacks: Finally! A home!
Advertisers: We really don’t want to be advertising around hate and such.
Elon: You still need to pay me to advertise else its not free speach!
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Gawd, speech!
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I’d say “speach” works in this context.
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It’s like mandatory tithing, you do not have to join the church but you will pay extra in taxes.
Now put that together with Citizens United
and you can force companies to donate to the campaigns of politicians who they disagree with
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That is frightening. And unfortunately, all the more likely …
This is what the economy will be like under fascism. You will have to kiss the right asses, buy whatever they are selling, and bribe everyone in sight to have a chance to exist in the market.
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this has nothing to do about the economy? ai moment
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We’ll actually be deciding in November whether this is how our entire economy works.
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dude this post has nothing to do with economics please stay on topic
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It actually does though. What Elmo is doing here is trying to force the fascist economic model. In November we’ll be deciding if Elmo’s actions here are how we want the entire economy to run.
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shut up
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Not happening.
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no one else is talking about economics but you
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There’s at least one other person. So you’re still wrong.
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No, what we’ll be deciding in November is whether or not send communists and Democrats (I repeat myself) to labor camps.
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Why is that a question if you’re making a statement?
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It has everything to do with the economy dumbass.
No-one these days should NEED the reminder, but...
The more conservatives show what they mean when they talk about ‘free speech’ and ‘the free market’ the more they remind people how much they absolutely loathe both those concepts and wish to see them destroyed.
Say something I don’t like? Silenced, only my side is allowed unfettered, consequence-free speech!
Run your business in a way that doesn’t give me money? Sued! The free market is only allowed to remain ‘free’ so long as it caters exclusively to conservatives!
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i mean all it did was make elon even more of a laughing stock
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Free speech and the free market are completely at odds with right wing authoritarianism, but wannabe authoritarians absolutely know the benefits of espousing those concepts to dupe their followers into empowering them, knowing full well they have no intention of actually enacting free speech and the free market policies. Their greatest failing is frequently saying the quiet part out loud.
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Their greatest failing is frequently saying the quiet part out loud.
Eh, in their shoes I wouldn’t feel overly worried about letting the truth slip once in while, all they need to do is throw out a few ‘The boogieman is coming to get you and the only one who can save you is us!’ fearmongering screeds, bigotry reinforcement messages and/or assurances that the Real ‘Muricans won’t have anything to worry about a little managed democracy/market/free speech and their followers will quiet back down.
Not sure Elmo got the memo...
Former magazine publisher here. I can assure you, that for years, advertisers (more than I care to remember) did not fear legal blowback by not running ads in my publications.
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GARM was operating as a cartel, and attempted to engage in antitrust activities to harm businesses and consumers with whom they disagreed. Noone’s speech was limited, and only the actions of a monopolistic organization were curtailed.
-Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest.
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said the sex pest
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So GARM’s opinion was the strongest?
It literally was not. It was a two person non-profit that released a few documents on best practices and that was basically it.
It literally did none of those things. You are the most gullible commenter we have around here, it’s incredible.
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GARM was never censored. They voluntarily shut themselves down.
One that potentially directed billions of dollars in advertising dollars. Admittedly quite a powerful operation, despite its small size.
Interestingly, by rejoining GARM, X-Twitter would have received correspondence concerning the terms of membership. X-Twitter would be in an excellent position to know the conditions imposed upon its members in order to prove anti-trust violations.
-Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest.
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swing and a miss koby the revenge porn enjoyer
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Threatens to kick Koby in the nuts if he doesn’t give me $1000
Koby gives me $1000
Look everyone, Koby gave me $1000 entirely of his own volition.
You are a fucking moron Koby.
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It is not “voluntary” when the only reason they shut themselves down was the combined forces of a government investigation and a SLAPP lawsuit, Koby. Even you know this.
Again, at no time did it “direct” any advertising, let alone billions of dollars. Why make that up?
And yet, it chose not to include any such details in its complaint or related evidence. Suggesting that your conspiracy theory has no support, because it does not.
Why are you so bad at this, Koby?
So, again, you think GARM’s opinion was “the strongest”? Fascinating. I actually think GARM’s opinion was often pretty bad, but if you say it’s the strongest, well…
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I’m sure they could have drummed up a bunch of pro-bono lawyers. But GARM didn’t have a good case. Checkmate in 2 is pretty dire.
Again, that one should have been a slam dunk to prove if they weren’t violating antitrust laws. Many of us are almost disappointed that GARM folded so fast, because now there probably won’t be a discovery phase. Possibly the other advertisers that engaged in the boycott can fill in the gaps.
-Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest.
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So you know as little about how law works as you know about everything else. This kind of case is a bad one for pro bono lawyers, no matter what you are “sure” of.
Yes, after they’ve spent over a million dollars in a hostile courtroom with a judge who has already made it clear he’ll support Musk.
You really can’t possibly be this fucking stupid?
Again, your commitment to arguing that GARM had the strongest opinion is odd, but I guess admirable?
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“Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest.”
Doesn’t that mean that terrorists and child rapists, whose content is often censored from social media, have the strongest and therefore best opinions?
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“Getting censored proves that your opinion is the strongest”
Odor isn’t everything.
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…hallucinated nobody mentally competent, ever.
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Sure, if you hit yourself in the head with a hammer a few times I guess.
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Dumb opinion, they wouldn’t have immediately closed down if what they were doing was legal, and it wasn’t, GARM is the censor we’ve been looking for, to bad they’ll be given plenty of time and opportunity to destroy evidence and get the right palms greased.
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Ah to have the innocence to still think that the only reason someone might lose a lawsuit is because they’re guilty…
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they forgot that there a clown
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If it helps any, they don’t actually believe it.
What you’re witnessing is that initial Nazi in the bar, who comes off more or less reasonable.
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They might as well believe it, since they’re a jerk either way. Watch “The Alt-Right Playbook: The Card Says Moops” on YouTube.
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This website automatically dubbed me “anonymous coward” because I didn’t use my name and email. This is the kind of garbage, lying, gaslighting , propagandist people trying to destroy the country under the guise of tolerance, it’s sad.
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clown license has been added to your inventory
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Is this the website where dummies that think they’re smart go? Is this the dunning Kruger effect page or something? Sorry boys , didn’t mean to invade your safe space, I’ll be leaving now.
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buddy all that you are doing is just attacking this site
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bye felicia
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You came here in that belief apparently, then you proved to everyone how stupid you are.
Yes, it demonstrates how stupid people like you think they are smart.
No you wont, because you are stupid enough to keep wasting time here in the belief that what you say is intelligent. So far everything you have said rates below “edgy teenager say stupid things”, you have yet to reach “childish tantrum” though.
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…said no human, ever.
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You could put in anything in the name field, including “Nameless”, and that would fix that. A lot of sites wouldn’t let you post anything at all without an email or name, often requiring you to register an account.
Seriously, who gets mad over a default name, for crying out loud? It’s just a joke.
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It is not uncommon for those targeted by bogus attacks on their speech to fold. Defending this lawsuit will likely cost somewhere over a million dollars. GARM was a tiny non profit with two employees. At some point it’s not worth it to fight.
A private organization releasing best practices is about as far asway from being a “censor” as is possibly imaginable.
Ah, so you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. Got it.
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You think that’s crazy, you should have seen their “proof” during Pizzagate.
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You’re full of it. Seriously, I didn’t know this website was for marxists, I thought it was for practical thinkers, that’s the only mistake I’ve made.
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K. Feel free to fuck off now.
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Big Dummy
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qq rightoid bitch
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What did he say that was untrue, exactly?
It’s not. Seriously, how is condemning censorship of a private nonprofit Marxism?
I’m not sure how what you’re saying is consistent with “practical thinking”.
I think you made more than one mistake in just this one post, and that “mistaken” assumption isn’t one of them.
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Lawsuits are expensive. It doesn’t matter if you’re in the right; if fighting off a lawsuit costs you more than you’re taking in (such as if you’re a nonprofit), then you need to either back down or reduce costs elsewhere (such as by shutting down part of your organization). I’m an admin on a web forum that essentially runs on a shoestring budget. If Musk filed a SLAPP suit against us, we’d probably have to back down just because we wouldn’t be able to afford decent legal representation unless we find someone willing to do the work pro bono.
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Are you doing anything illegal? I hope not. Also GARM may be non profit but they are backed by the WEF and that’s very suspicious. I understand what you’re saying but it’s not really equivalent.
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Right-wing dogwhistle for “Jews.”
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No it isn’t, that’s what it is to the left. I look at it as a group of wealthy people that do not like American values. You just try and use anti semitism as a bludgeon when you can’t make any sense and that’s why you go there , probably quite often.
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Yes, it is. Y’all use “woke” in place of the n-slur and the f-slur. Y’all use “WEF” and “globalism” in place of “Jews.” Shit’s been going on for years, stemming from Alex Jones and the like. You’re a fucking liar.
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You completely made that up in your own head but, I believe that you do believe that, and that’s why you’re so monumentally incorrect and you’ll probably never see that you’re actually blinded by your own hatred, I pity you really but I’d still help you on the side of the road if you needed it.
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Lol. Like we haven’t spent the last decade watching you do it with “woke.” Lie harder, rightoid trash.
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shut up conspiracy theorist
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It doesn’t even take a modicum of intelligence to understand what he said but considering your reply you don’t seem to even possess that.
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This forum is so hilarious, it’s chock full of pretentious goof balls that somehow got the belief that they’re smarter than everyone else. First time to this forum and just look at it, all of you lefty’s are filled with hate and anger yet say that it’s the other guys, it’s insanity over here….maybe I’ll stick around awhile
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You can’t even pluralize “lefties” properly, you stupid motherfucker.
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here’s your clown license
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It’s your first time here and you say everyone here are pretentious goof-balls?
Well, I’m sure your mighty galaxy-brain have managed to form an opinion of everyone here on your first visit by reading everything.
The rest of us who live in reality knows that is not how things work, instead we realize that you so far haven’t managed to say one intelligent thing proving that you are an idiot.
You can of course prove us wrong by saying something intelligent. Perhaps you should ask ChatGPT to help you with that or something, it would at least be a step up from your “contributions” so far.
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i was expecting his first visit would be nothing but random acs who cant always be trusted
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How do you keep an idiot in suspense? You go to their favorite echo chamber and present a different point of view, grab some popcorn and watch the show, you xe/xer’s are hilarious
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That’s not a “point of view” lmao. That’s some ridiculous stereotype you picked up from conservative media. Which is kind of the entire point here, dipshit.
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GARM was backed by WFA, the World Federation of Advertisers, which is not, actually, WEF, the World Economic Forum.
I understand that MAGA fools may not be able to comprehend complex topics like this, but really…
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The WEF doesn’t appear to be an entity that actually exists.
More importantly, the point is that this doesn’t prove that GARM did anything illegal to deserve the lawsuit in the first place.
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If the lawsuit has no standing, then why worry about it?
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Because it still costs a lot of money to mount a legal defense, and in a SLAPP suit, the plaintiff’s objective is to drag things out for as long as possible to make the experience as unpleasant and expensive as possible for the defendant. The plaintiff abuses the letter of the law to violate its spirit.
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That’s not how anything in reality works. Lawsuits are expensive to win.
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==Dumb opinion, they wouldn’t have immediately closed down if what they were doing was legal==
You are correct in your assessment of your comment.
==GARM is the censor==
What definition of the word ‘censor’ are you using in your claim?
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If people tell the truth about Musk and his company, others won’t give him money to do his speech!
i was going to make the joke that now Elon will have to sue every individual advertiser at any level now. But reality (for some value of “reality”) beat me to it in the form of Pavlov’s Dog. You can’t make this shit up as idiots are always one step ahead.
Also “drop”. LMAO.
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Imo, GARM isn’t much different than the so called fact checking websites. They pretty much target one side and not the other. GARM though hasn’t been indicted on anything and haven’t had to pay out on any lawsuits yet that I’m aware, so if they’ve done nothing wrong then why shutdown?
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They aren’t different, huh?
You know, if you just thought this through before writing the above you would have realized something about facts.
If a billionaire sues you, how much money would it cost you to contest that and are you willing to spend all that money when it’s likely you’ll loose because the billionaire can pay for more and better lawyers?
The truth is, these days when it comes to civil cases who’s right and who’s wrong is to a large degree decided by which party has the deepest pockets.
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Anytime you see someone taking a “both sides” approach, the aim is to elevate fascists to the same level as liberals. They’re just trying to get a foot in the door in bad faith.
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There are people out there that are so naïve and has zero actual understanding of todays political and societal landscape which makes them believe in the “both sides” argument which results in them saying incredible stupid shit. Just consider that we have people, in good faith, saying for example that “if just Ukraine met Russia’s demands the war would be over”.
These are the useful idiots the bad faith peddlers, fanatics, grifters and fascists really like.
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Dang you sound real smart, maybe you should be in charge since whatever you think is correct, how could we go wrong
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If you think I sound smart I can only conclude you have never interacted with actual smart people which goes to show where you stand.
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If you mean constitutionally-protected speech, then yes.
If you mean the ‘side’ that posts content that is likely to create negative brand association, then also yes.
Genuine question: If you believed you’d done nothing wrong but were threatened with a lawsuit that would cost you an amount of money you had no chance of affording whether you win or lose, what would you do.
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According to the left, everything anyone says that the left doesn’t agree with is a dogwhistle or racist
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No. Just the actual dogwhistles, your gaslighting notwithstanding.
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This motherfucker really gonna sit here pretending the right wing hasn’t used “woke” as a dogwhistle for going on a decade now.
All y’all do is fucking lie.
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…strawmanned nobody mentally competent, ever.
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FTFY. YW.
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warning the acs above me are trying to flood the comment section
this is not a drill the acs are trying to flood the comment section i repeat they are trying to flood the comment section
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It might help if you stopped aiding them with useless reply comments that drag out their trolling.
Petition to get Elon out where taxpayers can: Petition
This lawsuit is like if ACME were selling paperweights that nobody wants to buy because they’re way too heavy, so ACME sues the International Bureau of Weights and Measures for standardising the kilogram.
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God help us if Elmo ever makes paperweights.
Those who continue...
… to use ExTwitter for anything are complicit in supporting the baby man’s antics.
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When did libs become so obsessed with attaining censorship and fascism, it wasn’t always that way.
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I didn’t know Gym Jordan was a lib?! I think you have fried your brain smoking weed.
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Not sure how decrying censorship and fascism would help with attaining censorship or fascism…
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The same time you started taking hallucinogens.
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So am I to believe that the side that loves America and the constitution actually wants censorship despite their love for the first amendment, and the side that hates America and the constitution is pro free speech now? Is that really what’s trying to be sold here? Do you guys have to check in everyday to find out what your supposed reality will be for the day?
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Nothing has changed, you’re just a partisan bot.
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Republicans (and Elon) are really only fair-weather friends with the Constitution, especially the First Amendment.
Democrats love the Constitution and America; they criticize it because they want to make it even better.
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No. We just want Musk to voluntarily STFU since he clearly hates America and the First Amendment and wants freedom of reach rather than freedom of speech.
GARM: Your honor, Elon told us to fuck off so we fucked off.
Judge: Elon is this true?
Elon: Nope, never happened.
GARM: Judge, here is a video of him saying just that.
Judge: So, Elon told you to fuck off and once you fucked off he decided to sue you for fucking off?
GARM: Exactly.
Judge: Case dismissed.
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Totally agree with how easily the case should be dismissed.
Only problem is paying the legal fees, time, and drain on your life to get to that dismissal.
Because of where the case was going to be held, immediate dismissal wasn’t guaranteed and you wouldn’t get paid back for the costs by the idiot that did the slapp suit in the first place.
Not so much Big Brother as whiny-little-baby-piss-ants.
What all of this shows is that Elmo is absolutely fine with livestreaming of shootings in religious buildings just so long as he gets his own way.
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So long as he gets money
Is there any standing to sue Jordan for using the government to issue a bogus report?
OK so, no more GARM. But any company who didn’t want to advertise on ExTwitter or Rumble is still not going to. What’s going to be their excuse for suing them then?
Re: Oh that's easy, violation of the 'I'm a conservative so you MUST give me money' law
Yeah, Elon seems to have employed some underwear gnome logic in his thinking here.
Step 1) Sue the organization that puts out suggested best practices for content that your site blatantly ignores, content that advertisers who belong to the organization already don’t want to be associated with.
Step 2) Cause the organization to shut down due to being SLAPP’d.
Step 3)
Step 4) Profit!
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so basically he doesn’t know what he’s doing
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That’s basically a given with Elon, but I suspect a big part of this particular tantrum is due to his lack of experience with people telling him ‘no’ and being able to stick to their guns when pressed.
It would be one thing if he was threatening the companies in question in a way that they stood to lose money should they not fold to his thuggery, but he’s basically throwing a fit that they aren’t jumping on board with tanking their own brands/reputations by advertising on his cesspit of a site.
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The problem is when companies send responses like the one Chris Pavlovski posted. Don’t explain, don’t attempt to placate, don’t suggest a possible future, just say “No”.