KOSA Will Come To The Senate Floor On Tuesday, Senators Paul & Wyden Explain Why It’s Still Bad

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On Thursday, as expected, the Senate voted for “cloture” on the extremely problematic Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA). The cloture vote is a procedural vote necessary to bring a full vote to the floor. Previously, attempts to move KOSA forward “by unanimous consent” could be (and were) blocked by objections from at least one Senator (often Senator Wyden).

The cloture vote, in effect, overrides such a block, and moves to have a second vote on the floor. In this case, the cloture vote won, 86 to 1, meaning the real vote will happen on Tuesday. The one “nay” vote was from Senator Rand Paul. It took some by surprise, but Senator Wyden voted yes on cloture.

It’s been widely reported that Schumer has been negotiating with Wyden on some changes to try to deal with the larger concerns with KOSA. In the end, some small, but important changes were made to the bill at the behest of Wyden, including explicit text that nothing in KOSA overrides Section 230.

My purely speculative guess is that the basic deal was that with this minor change, Wyden would agree to vote in favor of cloture, but could still vote against the actual bill next week. Indeed, immediately after the cloture vote, Wyden put out a statement about why he could not support the bill:

“After months of negotiations, the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA) has been improved, thanks to hard work by Commerce Chair Cantwell and Leader Schumer. The changes that I, LGBTQ+ advocates, parents, student activists, civil rights groups and others have fought for over the last two years have made it less likely that the bill can be used as a tool for MAGA extremists to wage war on legal and essential information to teens.  

“I thank all of the advocates, parents, young people and concerned citizens that have raised their views about KOSA with me, both in support of the bill and with concern about its implications. 

“I strongly support elements of this bill, especially Senator Markey’s Children and Teens’ Online Privacy Protection Act, which will safeguard the personal information of young people online. Provisions regulating addictive design elements used by platforms to keep young people hooked are valuable safeguards that will make tech products safer. 

“Unfortunately, KOSA’s improvements, while constructive, remain insufficient. I fear this bill could be used to sue services that offer privacy-enhancing technologies like encryption or anonymity features that are essential to young people’s ability to communicate securely and privately without being spied on by predators online. I also take seriously concerns voiced by the American Civil Liberties Union, Fight for the Future, and LGBTQ+ teens and advocates that a future MAGA administration could still use this bill to pressure companies to censor gay, trans and reproductive health information.

“For these reasons, I cannot vote for this legislation.  

“However, if this bill is signed into law by the President, I look forward to working with my colleagues to conduct rigorous oversight of the FTC to ensure that my worst fears about this bill do not come true and that kids benefit from a safer internet.  

“Whatever happens to this bill, I look forward to working with my colleagues on other initiatives, including regulating harmful and manipulative platform designs, to tackle the vital topic of kids’ safety online. I also remain convinced that this effort must go hand-in-hand with passing a strong baseline privacy law for all Americans.”

And, thus, the underlying and still fundamentally dangerous bill is slightly less dangerous and the “trade” to improve the bill was that Wyden would vote for cloture. And that vote was effectively meaningless, since the cloture threshold would have been easily met even if Wyden had voted no on cloture.

The one nay vote, Senator Paul, also sent a “Dear Colleague” letter to the other Senators, and it’s one of the clearest, most straightforward explanations of why KOSA is bad. The letter is written in a manner that both Democrats and Republicans should be able to understand (i.e., it doesn’t engage in partisan culture war nonsense, but just spits facts).

Dear Colleague:

This week, the Senate will consider S. 1409, the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA). While the intent of this legislation is laudable, the bill raises significant First Amendment concerns, imposes vague, undefined requirements on internet platforms, and empowers politically motivated enforcers to advance their own ideological interests to the detriment of the American people. I will be voting against this bill, and I encourage you to do the same.

KOSA would impose an unprecedented “duty of care” on internet platforms to mitigate certain harms associated with mental health, such as anxiety, depression, and eating disorders. While proponents of the bill claim that it is not designed to regulate content, imposing a “duty of care” on online platforms to mitigate harms associated with mental health can only lead to one outcome: the stifling of First Amendment protected speech.

Should platforms stop children from seeing climate-related news because climate change is one of the leading sources of anxiety amongst younger generations? Should they stop children from seeing coverage of international conflicts because it could lead to depression? Should pro-life groups have their content censored because platforms worry that it could impact the mental well-being of teenage mothers? This bill opens the door to nearly limitless content regulation.

The bill contains a number of vague provisions and undefined terms. The text does not explain what it means for a platform to “prevent and mitigate” harm, nor does it define “addiction-like behaviors.” Additionally, the bill does not explicitly define the term “mental health disorder.” Instead, it references the Fifth Edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders or “the most current successor edition.” As such, the definition could change without any input from Congress.

We do not impose these types of burdens on any other sector of the economy. For example, the bill seeks to protect minors from alcohol and gambling ads on certain online platforms. However, minors can turn on the TV to watch the Super Bowl or the PGA tour and see the exact same ads without any problem.

This bill is a Trojan Horse. It claims to protect our children, but in reality, it stifles free speech and deprives Americans of the numerous benefits created by the internet. Any genuine effort to protect children online must start at home. And if the government does decide to get involved, it must ensure that First Amendment rights are protected, and platforms have clear guidelines on how to comply with the law. This bill fails to do either.

I intended to vote against S. 1409 and encourage you to do the same.

Honestly, this is one of the most compelling arguments against KOSA that I’ve seen, so kudos to Senator Paul and his staff for writing it. The point about how kids can just turn on TV and see the exact same content is a pretty key argument.

Unfortunately, it’s unlikely to have even the slightest effect. KOSA has 70 cosponsors, all of whom want to get nonsense headlines in their local papers about how they voted to “protect the children” even as the bill will actually do real harm to children.

While the vote on Tuesday will be important, the real fight now moves to the House. It’s unclear if there’s consensus on moving on the bill there, and if so, in what form. The current House bill is different than the Senate one, so the two sides would have to agree on what version moves forward. The real answer should be neither, but it seems like the ship has sailed on the Senate version.

Still, kudos to Wyden and Paul for continuing to fight the good fight against a dangerous bill.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Between the cloture vote and that it was 86 to 1, there’s the thought that it’s pretty obvious this is being actively hurriedly pushed through. What’s really scary about it is the numbers – 86 to 1 is a Massive difference in ratio, and speaks to untold influence. Even if the bill has 70 (probably very wealthy and influential) cosponsors, it’s hard not to read it as the senate being bought. Or is that conspiratorial?

Anonymous Coward says:

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Yeah, ‘bought’ probably isn’t the right word to use. This said, I still find it hard not to wonder about the influence that the cosponsors do have. From reporting by sites like XBiz, we know groups like NCOSE (who are a cosponsor, if I remember right) are making a thing of actively getting up in the face of politicians. Speaking for myself, I do think I would be affected by someone coming up to me and raving about how I need to do X or Y. Even if it wouldn’t necessarily sway me, it seems to work.

Anonymous Coward says:

I’m admittedly starting to lose hope that this bill will be stopped at this point.

We could, and should have better bills when it comes to tackling this issue, but I worry that this might be what we’ll be getting, unless the house or an eventual court challenge stops it.

At the very least, would the amendment Wyden got secured reduce the risks of content getting unnecessarily wiped from sites completly?

TKnarr (profile) says:

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This kind of bill is what we’ll be getting. IMO the only way to stop them is to stop trying to mitigate the damage and go the other direction: when they pass, abuse the Hell out of them to get as much generally-acceptable content taken down for violating them as we can. Get it to the point where even the tradwives are up in arms over their romance novels being unavailable and parents everywhere are up in arms when not only are their kids’ favorite games not available on their phones (and the bored kids are driving them insane) but their own accounts have been restricted after the platform noticed the kids using their parent’s account to get around the block.

Cat_Daddy (profile) says:

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There’s nothing wrong with feeling the enormity of a bill like this; what isn’t is coming to the conclusion that it’s over and there’s nothing you can do about it. It isn’t. Far from it.

Sure the senate is a lost cause at this point. But there are multiple opportunities to stop KOSA. The main problem that supporters of KOSA has to confront with is time. It’s not whether it has enough support to pass, it’s whether KOSA has the time to be passed. It has taken a year and two months to reach passage and it’s during election year no less. Plus, considering that the House and Senate might have different versions of KOSA, that brings in a worst-case scenario for the bill: an extra step that makes passage of KOSA even harder to pass because then it has to be debated by both chambers of Congress in a joint convention.

Even if KOSA does make it to the President’s desk, there is an 18-month gap between being signed and going into effect. That’s enough time for a bill to be brought forth before a judge.

If you’re going to give up, you will lose. But if you try fighting, in spite of the odds, you’ll might lose.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

I have to admit I struggle with always defaulting to the worst-case scenarios, ontop of assuming there’s no one actively working against those scenarios.

I thank you for giving me some hope again with your words, though I’m starting to think it’d be best I stop following these things so closely, admittedly.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

Long story short, keep campaigning.

It’s not the thing I’d have picked, but if you live in a Dem state, you have a non-zero, if tiny, chance of blocking the Bill.

It’s not like in Singapore where Bills and laws are legit passed in “secret”, rubber-stamped and enforced in WEEKS, if not MONTHS, without ANY fuckiing opposition (and while Singapore does have non-incumbent politicians, their opposition is feeble at best and generally not effective). And you can’t make legal challenges to those laws as a last resort because that shit’s now illegal too.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I’ll likely be taking a break from this site, as well as others like EFF, for the next week if not longer for my mental health’s sake, but I did want to give another response to this.

I suppose in the event it does get challenged in court, it might also serve to further delay its implementation.
(And it also makes me wish EU regulations could be challenged prior to implementation too. Not all of those are great either.)

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Koby (profile) says:

Long Shot

The one “nay” vote was from Senator Rand Paul. It took some by surprise, but Senator Wyden voted yes on cloture.

There’s some Senate procedural rules that say someone on the losing side can’t bring up a vote to reconsider. By Wyden voting in favor, it becomes possible, albeit unlikely, that he could get the Senate to reconsider and vote against moving forward on the legislation. Wyden didn’t vote yes on cloture because he supported it, it’s just a smart way to operate when the voting result is a foregone conclusion.

Samuel Abram (profile) says:

Mike praised a Republican that a lot of dems hate and portrayed my (and presumably his) favorite Senator (who happens to be a democrat) in a negative light (though no less factual).

I want all the trolls who say that Mike Masnick is a partisan democratic shill, a leftist, or a progressive to apologize.

They won’t, but I want it to happen.

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Anonymous Coward says:

We may have worse than KOSA coming down the pike

The “Agenda 2025” seeks to ban all pornography, even Playboy.

This will not affect the rich.

they can use computers at seconds homes abroad to circumvent blocking

That is cannot be stopped as the law enforcement in the USA has no jurisdiction on computers outside the United States.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You gotta be prepared for the anti-porn law, which includes even Playboy, which is coming.

It does not matter whether Trump or Harris is elected. This “Agenda 2025” is being pushed some right wing think tanks, and a Republican house and Senate, which odds makes say is going to happen, will be the ones to enact all this, even if Kamala Harris is elected.

You need to be prepared to evade censorship and monitoring.

The best way, if you have the money, to buy a home abroad and set up a computer there with an encrypted relay.

The USA has no jurisdiction on home computers abroad.

If you live in Florida, your best option would be to buy a house in Jamaica and set up a relay there. There US Govermenet has zero jurisdiction in Jamaica.

If Communism falls in Cuba, which is becoming more likely, someone in Florida could buy a home there and set up a relay.

It is just like with states trying to ban out of state travel for abortions. If the Cuba travel ban is lifted, a woman could fly to Cuba is less than an hour to get an abortion. The Miami to Havana flight time is less than an hour.

Abortion clinics in Cuba are not subject to US laws.

And even they do make a woman wear an ankle bracelet, once she gets to Cuba, she could not cut it off and destroy it, and not break any laws.

She would be breaking no laws in Cuba, if she cut off here ankle bracelet and threw over the Malecon into the the bay.

When you are in Cuba, you only have to obey Cuban laws, so a woman could not be prosecuted in the United States for cutting off her ankle bracelet while in Cuba to make sure they cannot prove she went to abortion clinic in Cuba.

If you cut off and destroy your ankle bracelet in Cuba, and throw is over the Malecon into the bay there, American law does not apply to that.

Michael Palmer says:

Re:

These kind of laws are being enacted everywhere from Russia to the UK. I doubt circumnavigating them by having computers based abroad will work for long. The internet is entering a new era, one of frequent ID checks & no anonymity. The internet will be made more inconvenient to use on purpose. Someone will always be watching what
you’te doing online, just in case.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Have you seen the shit happening IN Russia and China?

It’s fucking happening right then fuck now.

And no, South Korea ditching their ID Verification laws 10 years after enacting it isn’t supposed to be a cause for celebration.

We don’t ned to talk hypotheticals when the average person’s reaction in those 2 countries are “”live with it”.

And the liberal democracies WANT that. Both the laws and the reaction.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:5

And what do you hope to achieve, you little pissant.

Your spam is not helping things, as is your namecalling and call to stick our heads in the fucking sand.

Lay off the sockpuppeting, asshole, and start reading.

The African subcontinent is wary of America and Europe. India seeks to establish itself as a world power. China seeks to BE the sole superpower, like in their past and they’re more than happy to not just follow the American Cold War Playbook, but add to it.

Yes, you dimwit, I know the world is MORE than just China and its newest sockpuppet Russia, but the rest of the non-aligned states give a fuck.

They only believe the lies fed to them because deep down, they’re all authoritian as fuck and want to BE like China. And it’s only made worse with the Republicans exporting their sick ideas into the world.

Stick my head into the fucking sand and pretend that the fascists won’t come for me?

Fuck no.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

But China has more than a billion people. And while we all know those laws did jack fucking shit, politicians don’t give a fuck.

They desire that level of control to “better pass legislation” or some other bullshit.

The world isn’t just the US and Europe, and while I’m relieved that these laws are failing or will eventually fail, it’s no loss to the politicians.

But when the other powers of the world promote a seemingly successful method (thrpugh lying, intimidation and brutal repression/war), the rest of the world will be taking notes.

The world isn’t just America and Europe, and even in Europe, the Euros don’t seem to want the best for their people, either.

The world watches. And they’ve taken notes. And ot’s not looking good for the rest of us.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:6

Welcome to motherfucking reality.

I AM from the “rest of the fucking world”, and yes, the politicians there are more interested in economic development than human rights.

And it would appear that politicians everywhere care only for the magical GDP line rather than actual people.

But continue to stick your head in the sand, I’m sure all the bad PR post-Cold War onwards isn’t affecting the US and Europe to the point the EU is talking to China for trade deals they’ll be at the losing end of.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:8

And I can assure you, Southeast Asia and Africa do think like that, even if most of them are run by sheer incompetents.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

America and the member states of the EU need to be better examples of liberal democracies, at a bare minimum.

It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s reality.

Cat_Daddy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:7

I know that I’m poking the lion, but the reason why no one wants to listen to you is how belligerent and pompous you are acting. While I do agree that the global trajectory of the Earth and the Worldwide Web has shifted into uncharted territory, you really don’t offer a solution nor any suggestion to solving these issues. You just keep on saying that the world is shite, get offended when someone disagrees with you and throw a temper tantrum and claim that you’re reality. All you offer is pessimism… and that’s it.

I agree in principle, but not in execution. You’re coming across as a petulant brat who just recently discovered nihilism and the f bomb.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Not if its encrypted.

If a rich person buys a home in, say, Mexico. and sets up a relay there, these countries have no jurisdiction in Mexico.

Set up your own private VPN relay in Mexico, that’s all there is to it.

A home computer in Mexico only has to follow Mexican laws, even if the owner is American.

And the ban on porn, even playboy, that is coming will mean a boom for the Mexican housing market as rich buy homes wto set up a VPN relay there to bypass monitoring and censorship.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

The few that do make it into enforcement usually end up, from what I can tell, being difficult to enforce, full of holes or just don’t really work at all. I’m aware some of the US state-specific ones are in action, but even then they only target specific sites. An internet-wide bill would be a lot harder to enforce without causing even more of a fuss.

ECA (profile) says:

Laws on top of laws

But where does the responsibility lie.
IF’ they keep making laws when we already have laws that cover certain things, then create other laws on top, it gets to convoluted of WHAT to do, who is responsible for maintaining it, and who gets prosecuted.

I dont mind picking on Corps. But I THINK that parents need to take more time with their kids. And part of that would be to look at the EU, and see if we can make a few changes FOR THE FAMILY.

Adrian Lopez says:

Addictive Elements

I’m glad Wyden is opposing this bill, but I’m also disappointed to learn he believes “provisions regulating addictive design elements used by platforms to keep young people hooked are valuable safeguards that will make tech products safer.” Those “addictive design elements” would be things like content recommendations which absolutely do implicate content. Opponents of algorithmic feeds like to talk about the supposed “radicalizing effect” of content recommendations, and I fear that’s the direction any efforts against so-called addictive design elements would take.

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