Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt

from the let-the-record-show dept

This week, our first place winner on the insightful side is a simple anonymous reply to a complaint that Techdirt has become more politically biased:

Perhaps it isn’t really Techdirt that has changed, have you ever considered that?

In second place, it’s an anonymous comment about the UK moral panic about kids having phones:

Yeah, they pretty much said the same things about skateboards, rollerblades, TV, Gameboys, Pokémons and so on.

But this time, it will be a great time when an young adult, for his very first day of work, will say: “I’m sorry, I know how to use a phone or a computer but I don’t recognize the blue icon? What? Internet? Ah yes, I’ve heard about it but I wasn’t allowed to talk about it.”

For editor’s choice on the insightful side, we start out with another anonymous comment, this time about how killing Section 230 strengthens tech monopolies and hurts the little guys:

I’ve said this a million times. As someone who occasionally makes websites that sometimes has user-generated content (not just comments, sometimes this involves hosting things like stories, or add-ons for a platform, etc), if you want to make me liable for user-generated content, I’m either going to cut out anything even remotely controversial, or simply not bother. This is not out of vindictiveness; I simply have better things to do than to be spending all day moderating.

I do think some people will cheer this on from their corners, and they would be right. A less-connected world does mean fewer opportunities to harass; remove Facebook from Myanmar and there is a good argument that the situation would have developed far slower (note that the Rwandan radio station involved in spreading hate-speech was later prosecuted explicitly for its involvement). However, as the number of digital platforms dwindles and the remaining ones are sanitized in the name of “safety”, I think we will find ourselves in a far more constrained new world. Kid-friendly usually just means disabling in-game chat: no communication, no cyberbullying! As someone who was a kid during that era, I do fear that will be the approach the world now takes: no communication, no crimes, no harassment, no nothing.

If that’s not a dystopia, then I don’t know what is.

Next, it’s Stephen T. Stone with a reply to a comment defending Australia’s overreach in attempted to censor ExTwitter:

For what reason should Twitter be held liable for third party speech if no employee at Twitter, up to and including Elon Musk, played any direct role in crafting or publishing that speech?

Over on the funny side, our first place winner is a quick anonymous retort to a grimly stupid comment:

Son, people here can see the stupid ass shit you are writing.

In second place, it’s David on last week’s winning comments post, responding to one of the featured comments that called for legislators to “have an IQ above room temperature”:

Locking legislators in cold storage would be cruel and unusual punishment.

For editor’s choice on the funny side, we start out with an anonymous comment about the internet privacy law for private jet owners:

Maybe privacy will trickle down from the rich folks to the rest of us.

Finally, it’s one more anonymous comment, also from last week’s winning comments post, responding to a comment that called Craig Wright “just another grifter in a space packed with them”:

Don’t tell me he’s running for congress!

That’s all for this week, folks!


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ECA (profile) says:

Anndd?

Tech dirt Politically biased?
Maybe abit, but 90% is discussion, waiting for ANON, to reply to our comments.
Then we get some Great comments to DEBATE.
Make a controversial comment and watch 200+ others GIVE their side of it.(thats democracy)

As to reality to any subject, Most of the time, its facts, then Opinion.
As I suggested to a person,”Are you sure you know what Socialism is? Or is this an opinion you gained from TV/another person/NEWS or is it a Key word you dont know? Please go read up on what it is, and how it works”. Esp. since he lives in a farming community.

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Rocky says:

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Tech dirt Politically biased?

Yes, it is. There are more political biases than just “left” and “right” which is just a lazy way to divide people into a in-group and out-group and people who can’t see farther than that gets confused when they come across someone who doesn’t fit into either so they reason this person must belong to the out-group and is lying to hide this.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Imagine if cars were treated the same as the multiple governments want to treat social media…

‘Congrats on hitting your 16/18th birthday, now you know those things that you’ve been forbidden from talking about, learning about, or having any experience with?’

‘The things on the road that I’ve never been allowed in without a blindfold?’

‘Yeah, those. Well they’re called cars, they weight several tons, can reach really high speeds, and now that you’re 16/18 you can hop in one and take it for a spin whenever you want.’

‘Without any training or experience whatsoever in how to manage it or how they work?’

‘That sounds like work and responsibility for us so no, not so much as a single lesson. You’re an adult now, I’m sure you’ll figure it out. Have fun!’

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MrWilson (profile) says:

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Banning kids from social media is like home schooling kids. Sure, it’ll limit their access to some of the genuinely awful stuff out there, but it will also prevent them from seeing all the good stuff out there, developing positive social experiences and relationships outside of their bubble, and it will mean their parents and siblings and neighbors are their only social outlet or influence, which can be pretty shitty if your parents are authoritarian fundamentalists who think children are somewhere between prisoners or slaves.

Once again, the bad shit in social media is due to the nature of people, not to the nature of social media. And you can’t legislate people to not be shitty people.

Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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Banning kids from social media is like home schooling kids. Sure, it’ll limit their access to some of the genuinely awful stuff out there, but it will also prevent them from seeing all the good stuff out there, developing positive social experiences and relationships outside of their bubble, and it will mean their parents and siblings and neighbors are their only social outlet or influence, which can be pretty shitty if your parents are authoritarian fundamentalists who think children are somewhere between prisoners or slaves.

I have a second cousin who was homeschooled (his parents were neither authoritarians nor fundamentalists, though; they were genuinely good people), and I can say that this tracks and is accurate. Getting homeschooled really fucked up his social relationships.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I can’t speak to Samuel’s second cousin’s experience, but I’ve known enough homeschooled kids, both while they were being homeschooled and years later.

Homeschooling can and often does (but not always) limit social interactions for the students. It depends on where and how the kids are being homeschooled. If they’re homeschooled in a big city with a network of other homeschooled kids and have a variety of educational and social experiences available to them like libraries and observatories, etc., they’re able to have more social interactions. But unfortunately, a lot of parents who choose to homeschool do so because they’re controlling or overly concerned about exposing their children to the world (sometimes this is the same thing). There are some good reasons for homeschooling, such as having a kid with special needs that schools are less apt to handle well. If you live in an underfunded school system and can afford to homeschool, you might be able to provide a better experience for a kid on the spectrum and/or one with social anxiety issues. But it’s also used as a way for parents to control their kids to an abusive degree.

I have a coworker who was homeschooled in a rural area by a couple of fundamentalist Christian parents who were into something like the Quiverfull movement (i.e. having a ton of kids for god). My coworker’s older siblings got kicked out at 18 and had to learn to survive without any understanding of how the outside world really worked beyond their home and church. Fortunately for my coworker, their older siblings had figured out enough that by the time my coworker was kicked out of the house, so they were able to get help from their siblings. My coworker has spent years deprogramming from all the crap their parents shoved in their head.

Other homeschooled kids I’ve known can just generally be very naive and ill-prepared for the real world. It’s basically the opposite of what kids who move around a lot experience. Kids who move around a lot tend to get a wider perspective on people, have diverse encounters, develop greater empathy for a variety of perspectives, and are generally better able to adapt to life as an adult.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Homeschooling can and often does (but not always) limit social interactions for the students…I have a coworker who was homeschooled in a rural area by a couple of fundamentalist Christian parents

Lies and worthless anecdotes!

Research has proven that not-autistic homeschooled children have no issue with socializing and making friends!

In fact, in a 2019 review of homeschooling literature in the Journal of School Choice, Brian D. Ray determined that a whopping 87% of peer-reviewed studies on social, emotional, and psychological development showed that homeschooled students performed statistically significantly better than those in conventional schools. Look it up.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:4

We can safely ignore anything you say for two reasons:
Lie 1: You inserted the word “autistic” when describing the result of the study which never mentions autism at all.
Lie 2: The study doesn’t say homeschooled performed statistically significantly better, it said that 11 out of 16 studies shows positive outcomes, 1 out 16 showed positive outcomes for conventional education, and 4 out 16 showed no significant difference.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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You inserted the word “autistic” when describing the result of the study which never mentions autism at all.

It’s implied that autists like Stone do more poorly on all those developmental metrics than normal, healthy students. Doesn’t need to be stated explicitly in the paper. But it’s important to remind Stone that he’s defective.

bhull242 (profile) says:

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Autistic people are no more defective than people with red hair. We are also capable of fairly normal social interactions with other autistic people, and a lot of us are capable of reasonably decent social interactions with neurotypical people.

Additionally, the study implies no such thing—again, you’re just inserting claims into the paper that aren’t mentioned. The paper didn’t look into whether there are any differences between autistic people vs non-autistic people, so nothing can be inferred from the paper about any differences on that front. You’d need to cite a different paper for that. Also, there is no good reason to repeatedly tell strangers online they’re defective, regardless of whether it’s true or not. You’re just being a dick for the sake of being a dick, not because it’s actually beneficial to anyone at all.

Finally, you didn’t even address the other point they made, which is sufficient to say that you can be safely ignored on its own.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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. Also, there is no good reason to repeatedly tell strangers online they’re defective, regardless of whether it’s true or not. You’re just being a dick for the sake of being a dick, not because it’s actually beneficial to anyone at all.

Well you obviously weren’t bullied enough in high school. Sheesh.

bhull242 (profile) says:

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Eh, they tried; I just didn’t react as they wanted, so they gave up pretty quickly. Half the time, I wasn’t even aware of them, and even when I was aware, I didn’t get angry or upset, so I wasn’t a very fun target for them. (Once, someone stole my glasses in the locker room and ran, and I just sat there and waited for him to get bored and put them down, figuring that he had no use for them; he eventually put them on top of one of the lockers, so I reached up and grabbed them.) That, and—for whatever reason—people in my class decided to defend me from bullies without my involvement (more than for others, anyways), with even some bullies deciding I was off-limits for some reason and standing up for me. I don’t know why, though.

Regardless, I did get bullied, not only in high school but also Jr. high and elementary school. I just wasn’t an entertaining target for them, so they quickly got bored and left me alone.

Also, I did say “no good reason”, not no reason at all. I don’t believe there is a good reason to bully someone, and I don’t think bullying is actually beneficial to anyone. The bullies may think it is beneficial to bully people, but they’re mistaken.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

“You see this in a lot of areas,” said Jim Dwyer, a professor at William & Mary Law School who wrote a book about home schooling. “Someone with an ideological agenda can concoct bad social science and convince naive researchers and naive audiences to accept some position. It’s clearly true of Ray. … The research he relies on is not scientifically valid.”

“Taken as a whole, the academic literature shows mixed academic outcomes for home schooling: Some studies find benefits; others show deficiencies.”

“Ray comes from a conservative Christian movement that sees home schooling as a biblically mandated counterweight to secular modernity.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/11/brian-ray-homeschool-student-outcomes/

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

I think that goes without saying, but I’ll explain the most likely reason: the less practice you have in forming friendships in school, the less likely you are to be able to successfully form friendships afterwards.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:3

Schools are not a very realistic environment for practicing socialisation in the real world. In school, you can only choose who you spend time with to a limited extent. If someone in your class is constantly a dick to you, you can’t just stop being in contact with them.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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As an FYI, you sockpuppeting shitstain: People can oppose Hamas’s actions and still think the Israeli government has gone way too far in its reaction to the terrorist attack that prompted the current war genocide in Gaza. I, for one, hold that position.

bhull242 (profile) says:

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While I do not hold that position, I agree that a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, or anti-Israel’s-current-actions-in-Gaza-and/or-the-West-Bank position is entirely consistent with also being anti-Hamas. “A pox on both your houses!” is a logically coherent and internally consistent opinion to have, no hypocrisy or double standards needed.

Personally, I just think Netanyahu went in without an exit plan (making the conflict more protracted than strictly necessary); everything else is either expected/typical (or even better than the norm) for urban warfare, isolated incidents (usually accidental) or caused by Hamas. Gazan civilians are basically just getting caught in the crossfire (when Hamas isn’t using them as human shields or executing them) through no real fault of their own. I don’t like it, to be sure, but I don’t see a better option (beyond actually having an exit plan), and it’s not genocide as far as I can tell.

That’s just my two cents, though, and really beside the point; the point is that I concur with you that your position doesn’t mean you’re not also anti-Hamas.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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Being anti-Hamas is the equivalent of being pro-genocide.

Given that Hamas is pro-genocide, no, it absolutely is not. Someone who is anti-Hamas could very well be anti-Hamas because that someone is also anti-genocide.

The Palestinians chose Hamas as their rulers, […]

43% (I think that’s the percentage; I could be off by a few percentage points in either direction) of Palestinians in Gaza who were adults in 2005 voted for Hamas in a parliamentary election to form a coalition with other parties, and that coalition would rule; that percentage was a plurality, not a majority. Hamas then proceeded to kill all other members of Parliament and seize control of Gaza, and there hasn’t been an election held since. In the years since, many of those voters died or left Gaza, and Gazans who were children at the time or born between then and 2006 became adults who would be eligible for voting (not to mention the births of other children). On top of that, according to polls, the people who voted for Hamas generally (mistakenly) believed Hamas would be more moderate and less corrupt than Fatah or other parties running in that election.

Given all of that, I believe it would be incorrect to say that current Palestinians chose Hamas to rule them; at the very least, it is very misleading.

[…] and a bunch of Jews are now trying to liquidate the entire Palestinian population.

I have seen insufficient evidence to conclude that, even setting aside that people cannot be liquidated and instead substituting the word “eliminate”. I just haven’t seen anything that has been verified that makes what Israel is doing in Gaza genocide.

Either way, that still wouldn’t mean that opposing Hamas is inherently pro-genocide since Hamas is trying to eradicate the entire Israeli population themselves.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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How could the election have been fraudulently influenced

The whole point of the payoff was to keep the story out of the papers until at least after the election. Trump believed another story of sexual misconduct⁠—in this case, cheating on his wife with a porn star⁠—would only compound the damage done to his campaign by the Access Hollywood tape. The story was therefore covered up through an under-the-table “catch and kill” buyout to prevent it from influencing the election. Ergo, Trump defrauded the electorate by illegally paying Stormy Daniels for her story, then having his friends at AMI kill the story to keep it from possibly influencing the electorate.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Also hilarious: One of the jurors said one of their primary sources of news was Truth Social. Trump only needed one juror to think he was not guilty to the point of hanging the jury, and he couldn’t even get the one who was a Truth Social user to acquit him.

Transgender-identifying men also say that they’re actually women. That doesn’t make it true.

Just because someone claimed they get news from Truth Social doesn’t mean it’s true.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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I like to think we’re not just sexed bodies but living people with thoughts and emotions.

Though, again, that is not really relevant to being transgender as that is about gender identity, not physiological sex. They aren’t claiming to be able to change their bodies perfectly to the opposite sex. As such, whether or not they can or will be other than their sexed bodies doesn’t disprove any claims they actually make.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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Transgender-identifying men also say that they’re actually women.

No, trans men say they’re men. I believe you mean (in terms where we agree on definitions to some extent) transgender males say that they’re women. (Also, “transgender-identifying” isn’t a thing. They are transgender.)

That doesn’t make it true.

It is true under their definition of “men” and “women”. Just because it isn’t consistent with your definitions doesn’t mean it’s false as it was intended by the speaker.

And even if it was a false statement, that isn’t even remotely analogous to the situation at issue. Under your definitions of “men” and “women”, a trans male saying they are a woman is false by definition, but nothing about being someone who gets their news from Truth Social is definitionally incompatible with convicting Trump in his criminal trial. Additionally, it is almost certainly conceivable to you that the transgender person is deluded or at least mistaken about whether they’re a man or a woman, not necessarily lying; I doubt it’d be even remotely conceivable for someone to be deluded or mistaken about whether they get their news from Truth Social, so lying would be the only real conceivable option there.

As such, even accepting your premise here as true, it isn’t really analogous to this juror claiming to get their news from Truth Social and so is a bad example to use.

Just because someone claimed they get news from Truth Social doesn’t mean it’s true.

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, and given that there’s no benefit for them to lie about it, nor is it something people are likely to say in a lie, I see no reason to believe they are lying. It would also be absurd to say they’re deluded or mistaken about that. As such, I think the most likely scenario is that it is a true statement, at least until evidence to the contrary is provided.

You’re just casting doubt without any evidence to support it.

Anonymous Coward says:

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…transgender males say that they’re women.

Incorrect. Since male and female are gender identities, transgender males state that they’re boys or men, with only transphobes arguing otherwise. An AMAB person may say she’s female and a woman, but being AMAB is not at all the same thing as being male.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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There is no more “allegedly”, son. Trump was convicted in a court of law of falsifying business records to violate federal campaign finance limits, unlawfully influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and commit tax fraud. The whole point of the payoff was to keep the Stormy Daniels story out of the papers so it wouldn’t influence the election. That it ended up violating other laws in addition to becoming public knowledge anyway is the hilarious icing on the felony conviction cake.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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How could an election be criminally-influenced when the alleged criminal conduct didn’t occur until after said election was decided in favor of the accused?

The payoff to Daniels occured before the election; the payoffs to Cohen as reimbursement for the payoff to Daniels happened after the election. The election interference was the payoff to Daniels that led AMI to control the story about Daniels’s affair with Trump, which AMI killed to keep it from damaging the Trump campaign.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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The payoff to Daniels occured before the election;

Right, but if I understand you correctly, that wasn’t criminal. Rather, it was how that payoff was reported to the FEC that was criminal. But that [reporting] didn’t happen until after voters voted. Hence why I’m confused.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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if I understand you correctly, that wasn’t criminal

The underlying payoff was a criminal act involving the falsified business records. Since the point of the payoff was to keep information out of the public view before the election, the payoff was an attempt to influence the election. Ergo, falsifying the business records to hide the payoff was an attempt to hide the information and thus influence the election.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Two things.

  1. It was proven, as per Donald Trump’s felony convictions.
  2. If the records were falsified with the intent of committing another crime (e.g., tax evasion, election interference), the misdemeanor becomes a felony⁠—which is exactly Trump why was charged with, and eventually convicted of, 34 felonies.
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bhull242 (profile) says:

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  1. It was proven in a court of law, hence the convictions.
  2. Under the circumstances, it’s a Class E felony. Yes, falsifying business records without more is a misdemeanor, but with more—as was the case here—it becomes a felony, just like how different circumstances (like intent) can change whether a particular act of killing someone is self-defense, non-criminal accident, negligent homicide, manslaughter, or murder, as well as make the difference between a misdemeanor assault and a felonious assault.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Allegedly paying to suppress an alleged unflattering/salacious story about one’s sex-life isn’t a crime, doofus.

That would generally be true, and if that’s all it was, I doubt it would have been an issue.

However, given that it was stated at trial that “it might harm his election chances” was the specific reason given for killing the story, and the $130,000 payment has already been ruled an illegal campaign contribution, it was the fact that Trump then concealed what the payment was for (illegal campaign contribution – another crime) that made it a felony.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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For a proved beyond reasonable doubt election finance felony, for which the statute of limitations had not expired (otherwise his law team would have had a very easy time).

Incidentally, claiming “the statue of limitations had expired” isn’t the strong moral defense you think it is. Even if it were true, it’s saying “Yeah, you may have all this evidence he totally did commit this crime, but it was too long ago!”

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I’m the one living in reality, where Donald J Trump was convinced of 34 felonies, making them neither alleged, nor misdemeanors.

Since you’re confused, here’s the statement of fact from the DA, laying out exactly what Trump was convicted of: https://manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023-04-04-SOF.pdf

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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No, they’re not. They’re the same AC doing a sockpuppet thing where one sockpuppet is an extremist right-winger who revels in open bigotry and the other is an extremist left-winger who revels in trying to sound like what they believe an extremist left-winger would sound like (e.g., talking about forced homosexuality). Their irrepressible urge to be as extreme as possible so they can get a reaction gives their game away.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Only makes me want to vote for him more.

Well, you have no principles other than “whatever pisses the most people off is good”, so of course you’d vote for Trump.

Also, do you denigrate Black males like this

No, I don’t. But again, your only principle is “whatever pisses the most people off is good”, so of course you’re an edgelord who thinks blatant and open racism, homophobia, and antisemitism on top of calls for the mass murder of anyone who isn’t a GOP voter are the height of hilarity and wit.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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I’m not aware of any Jews fighting with Hamas against Israel’s campaign of genocide. Are you?

Fighting against Israel’s Genocide ≠ Fighting alongside Hamas. It can also come in the form of protests, such as shutting down Grand Central Station. Or Campus Protests. Hell, Palestinians themselves in Gaza said that these protests give them hope!

Your mindset of “Hamas = Gazans” is just as bigoted as “Israel = Jews”. I’d say “shame on you” but you have no shame.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Why are you pulling this “I’m so right-wing that I’m calling for genocide” schtick and that “I’m so left-wing that I’m calling for forced homosexuality” schtick while thinking people won’t recognize that you’re doing both sides thanks to your irrepressible urge to present extremist ideas regardless of which schtick you’re doing?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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An American Jew can be as critical of the Israeli government as they want to be, even if they choose to not be critical.

As if those very same American Jews aren’t literally funding Israel’s extermination campaign with their taxes! They’re all complicit unless they’re actively fighting against Israeli troops.

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Samuel Abram (profile) says:

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As if those very same American Jews aren’t literally funding Israel’s extermination campaign with their taxes! They’re all complicit unless they’re actively fighting against Israeli troops.

You know what, dipshit? So is every American gentile! So are American expats! The only Americans who don’t fund it are those who don’t pay taxes, and taxes are as inevitable as death.

The fact that you blame American Jews in particular instead of Americans in general is very telling. 🤔🤔🤔

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Two things.

  1. Stop trying to ascribe to all members of an entire demographic the actions of some people within that demographic, unless you’re willing to say “all white people are racist” because some white people (like you) are openly racist.
  2. Ragging on Trump is relevant here because Trump runs on a “law and order” platform provided to him by the GOP, but he refuses to respect the law and only wants order in the form of violence and revenge against his political enemies⁠—just like all the other hypocrites in the GOP whose idea of “law and order” is exempting conservatives from the law and enforcing order at the expense of the rights of anyone deemed “unfavorable” by Republican lawmakers.

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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Because the actions of some members of a group don’t necessarily reflect on the entire group. An individual convicted felon who ragged on about law and order the way Trump did who happened to be a black male might be scummy because of that (the issue being hypocrisy and double standards on that person’s part, not just the conviction), but that wouldn’t make black males as a demographic scummy.

Also, there’s nothing noble about Donald Trump.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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What the heck happened in this comments section? Apparently, this is what I get for not checking Techdirt yesterday.

Stephen T. Stone and some Jew are arguing with at least one other person that Donald Trump isn’t a bad person for supporting Israel’s US-funded campaign of genocide against defenceless Palestinians, but he is a very bad person< for not catching some alleged bookkeeping error related to campaign finance that not even the feds in your DOJ thought could be credibly prosecuted.

Crazy stuff!!

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bhull242 (profile) says:

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Stephen T. Stone and some Jew are arguing with at least one other person that Donald Trump isn’t a bad person for supporting Israel’s US-funded campaign of genocide against defenceless Palestinians

No, they never said that. They did say that opposing Hamas is consistent with denouncing “supporting Israel’s US-funded campaign of genocide against defenceless Palestinians” (something which isn’t actually happening, but since Stephen and Samuel likely agree with that characterization, I’ll just leave it at that), but that had absolutely nothing to do with anything they said about Trump. You’re mixing two or three completely different arguments.

but he is a very bad person< for not catching some alleged bookkeeping error related to campaign finance that not even the feds in your DOJ thought could be credibly prosecuted.

No, it wasn’t an error; it was fraud, and he committed it personally. That’s what he was convicted of. It’s also not their argument for why Trump is a bad person.

And you’re just BSing about the DoJ, not to mention the fact that it not being credibly prosecutable under federal law doesn’t mean it can’t be credibly prosecuted under state law.

Basically, you’re completely wrong.

Anonymous Coward says:

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They did say that opposing Hamas is consistent with denouncing “supporting Israel’s US-funded campaign of genocide against defenceless Palestinians” (something which isn’t actually happening…)

Of course. Memshelet Yisra’el is absolutely not attempting to wipe out the Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip, just like Hamas doesn’t want to wipe out the Jewish population. You know what the official term for an attempt to wipe out a people from a particular country is? Genocide.

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