Five Questions To Ask Before Backing The TikTok Ban

from the details,-details dept

With strong bipartisan support, the U.S. House voted 352 to 65 to pass HR 7521 last week, a bill that would ban TikTok nationwide if its Chinese owner doesn’t sell the popular video app. The TikTok bill’s future in the U.S. Senate isn’t yet clear, but President Joe Biden has said he would sign it into law if it reaches his desk. 

The speed at which lawmakers have moved to advance a bill with such a significant impact on speech is alarming. It has given many of us — including, seemingly, lawmakers themselves — little time to consider the actual justifications for such a law. In isolation, parts of the argument might sound somewhat reasonable, but lawmakers still need to clear up their confused case for banning TikTok. Before throwing their support behind the TikTok bill, Americans should be able to understand it fully, something that they can start doing by considering these five questions. 

1. Is the TikTok bill about privacy or content?

Something that has made HR 7521 hard to talk about is the inconsistent way its supporters have described the bill’s goals. Is this bill supposed to address data privacy and security concerns? Or is it about the content TikTok serves to its American users? 

From what lawmakers have said, however, it seems clear that this bill is strongly motivated by content on TikTok that they don’t like. When describing the “clear threat” posed by foreign-owned apps, the House report on the bill  cites the ability of adversary countries to “collect vast amounts of data on Americans, conduct espionage campaigns, and push misinformation, disinformation, and propaganda on the American public.”

This week, the bill’s Republican sponsor Rep. Mike Gallagher told PBS Newshour that the “broader” of the two concerns TikTok raises is “the potential for this platform to be used for the propaganda purposes of the Chinese Communist Party.” On that same program, Representative Raja Krishnamoorthi, a Democratic co-sponsor of the bill, similarly voiced content concerns, claiming that TikTok promotes “drug paraphernalia, oversexualization of teenagers” and “constant content about suicidal ideation.”

2. If the TikTok bill is about privacy, why aren’t lawmakers passing comprehensive privacy laws? 

It is indeed alarming how much information TikTok and other social media platforms suck up from their users, information that is then collected not just by governments but also by private companies and data brokers. This is why the EFF strongly supports comprehensive data privacy legislation, a solution that directly addresses privacy concerns. This is also why it is hard to take lawmakers at their word about their privacy concerns with TikTok, given that Congress has consistently failed to enact comprehensive data privacy legislation and this bill would do little to stop the many other ways adversaries (foreign and domestic) collect, buy, and sell our data. Indeed, the TikTok bill has no specific privacy provisions in it at all.

It has been suggested that what makes TikTok different from other social media companies is how its data can be accessed by a foreign government. Here, too, TikTok is not special. China is not unique in requiring companies in the country to provide information to them upon request. In the United States, Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act, which is up for renewal, authorizes the mass collection of communication data. In 2021 alone, the FBI conducted up to 3.4 million warrantless searches through Section 702. The U.S. government can also demand user information from online providers through National Security Letters, which can both require providers to turn over user information and gag them from speaking about it. While the U.S. cannot control what other countries do, if this is a problem lawmakers are sincerely concerned about, they could start by fighting it at home.

3. If the TikTok bill is about content, how will it avoid violating the First Amendment? 

Whether TikTok is banned or sold to new owners, millions of people in the U.S. will no longer be able to get information and communicate with each other as they presently do. Indeed, one of the given reasons to force the sale is so TikTok will serve different content to users, specifically when it comes to Chinese propaganda and misinformation.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution rightly makes it very difficult for the government to force such a change legally. To restrict content, U.S. laws must be the least speech-restrictive way of addressing serious harms. The TikTok bill’s supporters have vaguely suggested that the platform poses national security risks. So far, however, there has been little public justification that the extreme measure of banning TikTok (rather than addressing specific harms) is properly tailored to prevent these risks. And it has been well-established law for almost 60 years that U.S. people have a First Amendment right to receive foreign propaganda. People in the U.S. deserve an explicit explanation of the immediate risks posed by TikTok — something the government will have to do in court if this bill becomes law and is challenged.

4. Is the TikTok bill a ban or something else? 

Some have argued that the TikTok bill is not a ban because it would only ban TikTok if owner ByteDance does not sell the company. However, as we noted in the coalition letter we signed with the American Civil Liberties Union, the government generally cannot “accomplish indirectly what it is barred from doing directly, and a forced sale is the kind of speech punishment that receives exacting scrutiny from the courts.” 

Furthermore, a forced sale based on objections to content acts as a backdoor attempt to control speech. Indeed, one of the very reasons Congress wants a new owner is because it doesn’t like China’s editorial control. And any new ownership will likely bring changes to TikTok. In the case of Twitter, it has been very clear how a change of ownership can affect the editorial policies of a social media company. Private businesses are free to decide what information users see and how they communicate on their platforms, but when the U.S. government wants to do so, it must contend with the First Amendment. 

5. Does the U.S. support the free flow of information as a fundamental democratic principle? 

Until now, the United States has championed the free flow of information around the world as a fundamental democratic principle and called out other nations when they have shut down internet access or banned social media apps and other online communications tools. In doing so, the U.S. has deemed restrictions on the free flow of information to be undemocratic.

In 2021, the U.S. State Department formally condemned a ban on Twitter by the government of Nigeria. “Unduly restricting the ability of Nigerians to report, gather, and disseminate opinions and information has no place in a democracy,” a department spokesperson wrote. “Freedom of expression and access to information both online and offline are foundational to prosperous and secure democratic societies.”

Whether it’s in Nigeria, China, or the United States, we couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, if the TikTok bill becomes law, the U.S. will lose much of its moral authority on this vital principle.

Republished from the EFF’s Deeplinks blog.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

#1 is a false question.

This is a strawman statement, purposefully trying to misframe the situation. It’s simply that it is owned and operated by a hostile foreign power, and that has LOTS of downsides. Including allowing censorship by the CCP.

What a pitiful excuse of propaganda this article is. The EFF has gone to hell, apparently.

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Arianity says:

Something that has made HR 7521 hard to talk about is the inconsistent way its supporters have described the bill’s goals. Is this bill supposed to address data privacy and security concerns? Or is it about the content TikTok serves to its American users?

It can be both.

So far, however, there has been little public justification that the extreme measure of banning TikTok (rather than addressing specific harms)

If you take the concerns at face value, (particularly the security/content), I don’t see how you can address those specific harms in a narrower way.

And we’ve actually seen other attempts at solutions, such as hosting the Tiktok’s data on Oracle servers:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-moves-us-user-data-oracle-servers-2022-06-17/

(That kind of blew up after it was found that it’s Chinese branch still had access to the data: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/23/tiktok-ceo-china-based-bytedance-employees-can-still-access-some-us-data.html)

Until now, the United States has championed the free flow of information around the world as a fundamental democratic principle and called out other nations when they have shut down internet access or banned social media apps and other online communications tools. In doing so, the U.S. has deemed restrictions on the free flow of information to be undemocratic.

We’ve seen places like RT hit before:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_America#History

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Something that has made HR 7521 hard to talk about is the inconsistent way its supporters have described the bill’s goals. Is this bill supposed to address data privacy and security concerns? Or is it about the content TikTok serves to its American users?

It can be both.

So first you’re a shill for the link tax, and now you’ve become a shill for this bad bill. Thanks for letting us all know where your loyalties lie.

Matthew Bishop (profile) says:

Under-discussed parts of this debate

I generally agree with Techdirt on tech, privacy, and free speech issues like this over almost any other commentator. However I’m not yet convinced on this topic due to some issues I haven’t seen talked about much.

1. Propaganda is one thing, but personally targeted propaganda is another. I have seen journalists say “TikTok is just silly dance videos” and I’m sure for them it is. But we really don’t know how things are being targeted due to the user-specific nature of the feed. I would not be surprised if there are “journalist”, “government employee”, and “college professor” filtering criteria that will keep you from ever experiencing these influence operations (if they exist now or in the future).

If your countrymen are being targeted by an adversary’s propaganda in a newspaper, you can read it and respond to it. But if you don’t even know what’s being said, and to whom? What’s the free society’s mechanism for countering propaganda then?

We do not know, and fundamentally cannot know this because the only source of data about TikTok is TikTok. If TikTok were sold to a company in the US, or at least in reach of our subpoenas, I would have more confidence that their executives would act responsibly. The fact that CCP spokespeople are indicating they will shut TikTok down rather than allow it to be sold (at a cost of tens of billions of dollars) at least hints that there is something to hide already.

2. This is secondary, but I think there’s a good argument for blocking it on trade grounds. Counterfactually, if China hadn’t de-facto banned American tech and social media companies from their market, I suspect the Chinese tech industry would never have developed. That’s probably trillions of dollars of market cap that would have instead of accrued to American tech firms and investors.

When framed as a simple fairness issue and I think most of your complaints seem less relevant. We don’t consider other tariffs or trade restrictions to be first amendment issues.

Thoughts?

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That One Guy (profile) says:

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We do not know, and fundamentally cannot know this because the only source of data about TikTok is TikTok.

And TikTok might be trying to convince all it’s users to start eating Lucky Charms for breakfast because one of it’s owners is a huge fan of that particular brand of cereal.

If‘ seems to be doing a lot of the heavy lifting in your argument and hypothetical there. ‘They might be doing this’, ‘They might be doing that’ with nary any actual evidence that they are doing that does not a ban or regulation justification make. If they actually were doing something questionable it’s not like people on social media wouldn’t notice it or be hesitant in talking about it, giving the politicians involved plenty of evidence they could point to, yet all they and you seem to be able to point to is what they might be doing.

The fact that CCP spokespeople are indicating they will shut TikTok down rather than allow it to be sold (at a cost of tens of billions of dollars) at least hints that there is something to hide already.

Or, you know, maybe they don’t feel like playing along with such a gross abuse of power by the USG and are willing to make the USG’s ‘victory’ a pyrrhic one by ensuring that the US politicians get nothing from their stunt but a lot of very angry users/voters who just had their social media platform of choice burned to the ground by those politicians and their stunt.

When framed as a simple fairness issue and I think most of your complaints seem less relevant. We don’t consider other tariffs or trade restrictions to be first amendment issues.

‘They blocked our stuff that we might have made a bunch of money from so we get to block their stuff’ doesn’t fly as an argument on it’s own, add in that we’re talking about a platform where a lot of speech is involved and it just gets worse.

Anonymous Coward says:

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But we really don’t know how things are being targeted due to the user-specific nature of the feed. I would not be surprised if there are “journalist”, “government employee”, and “college professor” filtering criteria that will keep you from ever experiencing these influence operations (if they exist now or in the future).

Given that no American social media company can manage to moderate content even close to 100% correctly, your hypothetical going completely undetected means either (1) ByteDance is completely outperforming American tech companies to the point where they should just stop trying or (2) this isn’t happening.

Matthew Bishop (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Content moderation is hard because it is adversarial – there is someone on the other side trying to evade it. Even in China, if you block one specific phrase, it’s relatively easy to make a more oblique reference to whatever you’re discussing.

Detecting every person in America who has any actual influence on policy or the media to make sure they never see this behavior would be doable, I think.

Check whether the phone ever goes near a university, or travel to the downtown area during work hours. Estimate their education level and income. Don’t do it with new users. Default to NOT adding them to your influence operation. Start slowly, and then ramp it up as your confidence that it is a genuine user increases. How would this be detected?

It’s generally acknowledged that TikTok has excellent ML / AI teams. People often marvel over how incredibly well TikTok can learn your interests just by watching a few videos – they are also gleaning a lot of other information in the process.

It’s also generally acknowledged that the Chinese government is already going to great lengths to e.g. hack American companies to steal their intellectual property. We literally banned 5G base station hardware from Chinese companies due to these concerns. I’m not sure I see how you can think that Chinese base stations are such a threat (with hardware we can actually inspect, and run tests on) vs. software running directly on hundreds of millions of American phones sending data to Chinese servers, and displaying personalized content decided by algorithms that are literally outside the reach of the federal government.

Anonymous Coward says:

The reason the lets ban tik tok ban crowd don,t want stronger privacy regulations is that would make it hard for companys to collect private user data and sell it and of course companys also hand user
data to the police fbi and nsa .Apart from tik tok
the internet is full of trolls or extremists that spread misinformation and conspiracy theorys,
theres no study that proves that china uses tik tok to push government propoganda on to american users.
americans have acess to hundreds of radio and tv channels as well as youtube and internet forums .
i doubt if anyones going to let tik tok turn them
into a communist

Nimrod (profile) says:

To me, there’s no need to look past the first question, that being “Do I support freedom of expression?”
If the answer is yes, I see no way you can support a ban of TikTok, or “X” or any other such website. You have every right to disagree with anything or everything they do, but that’s where it ends.
While we’re on the topic of foreign-owned media influencing Americans, perhaps we should consider the Murdoch empire, too. They are, after all, confirmed liars, and I submit that they’ve ALREADY done more damage to this country than TikTok every could.

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